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Postby Bering » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:52 pm

Victoriala wrote:
Bering wrote:Ha, sure. It can be a peninsula on the city that looks like a horn and so the original settlement was called Hornburg before it got swallowed up by New Pryport

Not before the priors of Godanur convert them to Häligu

Sorry. That is the territory of the Ten, so your One can kiss their collective number two
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Postby Victoriala » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:54 pm

Bering wrote:
Victoriala wrote:Not before the priors of Godanur convert them to Häligu

Sorry. That is the territory of the Ten, so your One can kiss their collective number two
:p

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Postby Bering » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:55 pm

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Bering wrote:Sorry. That is the territory of the Ten, so your One can kiss their collective number two
:p

Belly has tanks

And Amcar is a superpower

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Postby Victoriala » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:56 pm

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Victoriala wrote:Belly has tanks

And Amcar is a superpower

I'm a great power
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Postby Bering » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:59 pm

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Bering wrote:And Amcar is a superpower

I'm a great power

That remains to be decided. The only nations whose positions are secured are Amcar and the USSN. The council still has to convene to decide the power levels of all the other nations.
And their is a great gap between Superpower and Great power
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Postby Whiteshore » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:02 pm

So, could there be a Sarya-Zhouran split between the respective nations resulting in Zhouran and Seresia forming a third bloc and the closest Eorda got to a nuclear war be Zhouran and Sarya sparring in Dorjania going wrong but cool heads barely prevailed
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Postby Bering » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:04 pm

Whiteshore wrote:So, could there be a Sarya-Zhouran split between the respective nations resulting in Zhouran and Seresia forming a third bloc and the closest Eorda got to a nuclear war be Zhouran and Sarya sparring in Dorjania going wrong but cool heads barely prevailed

Whiteshore, talk to Bez about it first.
And we already have third bloc going
You can make your own forth bloc if you want, but you are going to need to find people willing to join it

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Postby Whiteshore » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:06 pm

Can I join the the third bloc?
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Postby Bering » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:07 pm

Whiteshore wrote:Can I join the the third bloc?

Sure, it is open to everyone. Let me give you a link to the post that explains it

edit: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=303594&p=21338279&hilit=The+Helm#p21338279
THE HELM!
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Postby Whiteshore » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:09 pm

The Zhouranese Civil War could be the biggest war in Eorda's history.
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Postby Victoriala » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:10 pm

I don't know how Eorda works now

Feels like vinegar
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Postby Bering » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:11 pm

Whiteshore wrote:The Zhouranese Civil War could be the biggest war in Eorda's history.

Maybe. I guess it would depend on its population and how bloody and big the Great Wars (to make up for the lack of World Wars) get
Again, we are still working out a lot of stuff on the international level

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Postby Bering » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:12 pm

Victoriala wrote:I don't know how Eorda works now

Feels like vinegar

Sorry you feel that way

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Postby Lyanica » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:12 pm

Whiteshore wrote:The Zhouranese Civil War could be the biggest war in Eorda's history.

Uh oh... All is not quiet on Nyaland's borders...

Keep it down over there!!
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Postby Whiteshore » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:14 pm

So, folks, can we have "The Helm" be basically a bloc formed by a loose coalition of countries disillusioned by both Amcar and Sarya?
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Postby Bering » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:15 pm

Lyanica wrote:
Whiteshore wrote:The Zhouranese Civil War could be the biggest war in Eorda's history.

Uh oh... All is not quiet on Nyaland's borders...

Keep it down over there!!

It's all fun and games until someone gets a bayonet to the stomach

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Postby Bering » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:17 pm

Whiteshore wrote:So, folks, can we have "The Helm" be basically a bloc formed by a loose coalition of countries disillusioned by both Amcar and Sarya?

Yeah, that is probably what it will be. Along with nations that don't want to get involved in their fights
Pretty much like the RL nonaligned movement
Would you like to have Seresia and Zhourain be founding members of the group
Arcas will be as well.

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Postby Whiteshore » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:26 pm

Bering wrote:
Whiteshore wrote:So, folks, can we have "The Helm" be basically a bloc formed by a loose coalition of countries disillusioned by both Amcar and Sarya?

Yeah, that is probably what it will be. Along with nations that don't want to get involved in their fights
Pretty much like the RL nonaligned movement
Would you like to have Seresia and Zhourain be founding members of the group
Arcas will be as well.

Yes, and the Turkau Khaganate would join as well and can we have the Helm have nuclear weapons(mainly Zhouranese nukes)? And BTW, can we have an area of Zhou's Northwest be NotTibet?
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Postby Bering » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:27 pm

Whiteshore wrote:
Bering wrote:Yeah, that is probably what it will be. Along with nations that don't want to get involved in their fights
Pretty much like the RL nonaligned movement
Would you like to have Seresia and Zhourain be founding members of the group
Arcas will be as well.

Yes, and the Turkau Khaganate would join as well and can we have the Helm have nuclear weapons(mainly Zhouranese nukes)? And BTW, can we have an area of Zhou's Northwest be NotTibet?

Great, sure,
I guess that is fine. How would they be controlled?
That is an internal matter, so sure feel free to do so

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Postby Whiteshore » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:29 pm

Bering wrote:
Whiteshore wrote:Yes, and the Turkau Khaganate would join as well and can we have the Helm have nuclear weapons(mainly Zhouranese nukes)? And BTW, can we have an area of Zhou's Northwest be NotTibet?

Great, sure,
I guess that is fine. How would they be controlled?
That is an internal matter, so sure feel free to do so

So, can we do the possible circumstances of the birth of the helm?
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Postby Victoriala » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:29 pm

Name it Drungkhalpo.
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Postby Bering » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:33 pm

Whiteshore wrote:
Bering wrote:Great, sure,
I guess that is fine. How would they be controlled?
That is an internal matter, so sure feel free to do so

So, can we do the possible circumstances of the birth of the helm?

I am still working that out
But probably a group of nations (probably regional and minor powers) decide that they have had enough of Amcar and the USSN dragging everyone into their fights.
Arcas calls a summit in Arcas (the city) to propose the Helm and it ends with a few of the nations that met agreeing to join. We meet a year later to hammer out exactly want we want from this and thus our makeshift alliance is born. More nations join and some leave, but we become a credible enoguh force in the conflict

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Postby Bering » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:51 pm

The religions, actual dates are pending
Basically in Yndsen Arcas, Doner was not even a god, but rather a primordial force like Chaos in Greek mythology. The gods were lauded for bring order to Doner's chaos and such. So the priesthood was small, unappreciated, unimportant and lacking a role in society. Thus five priest of Doner rose up to challenge it. Eadweard, his cousin Edgar, and his friends Carl, Herman, and Roderick. The cult of Doner had been strong in the Cerdef era, but waned considerably in the Yndsen era as Doner was not a member of Great Ten of the Imperial Cult.

They claimed that Doner was the head god of the Arcasan pantheon as he had created the realms and the gods and should be worshiped as such. They were controversial but tolerated as they did not threaten the Ten. They made great strides in their attempts to spread the teachings of Doner. But this all changed when Eadweard died of sickness. He was the leader of the group, the face of the movement, and really the one that kept things going. The group started splintering after his death. Carl and Roderick became more radical while Edgar and Herman were less sure. Herman attempted to keep the group together, but he died at a rally that turned into a riot. The riot occurred between the various factions of the movement. Each member had begun preaching a different version of the faith. This lead to tensions that exploded when a radical stabbed Herman and sparked the riot.

The group finally splintered, each going his own way. Roderick and Carl became outlaws and founded Haligism and Colotorasism (apologies for spelling mistakes in the names it is late here). Edgar stayed in the priesthood and became the high priest of Doner. Edgar took the name Eadweard I as his priestly name (a remnant of their power in the Cerdef Era) in honor of his cousin. He instituted many reforms that his cousin had advocated for and even became the first head of the Council of 11. However the damage was done and their theologies irreconcilable. Each one is seen as a hero by his followers, and the other two as traitors. The radicals that would found the monotheistic faiths see Edgar as a sell out (at best) and accuse the other of commanding Herman's death. The followers of Edgar believe that Edgar stayed true to Eadweard's "original" message and the other two took advantage of his death for their own gain.

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Postby Victoriala » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:56 pm

Bering wrote:The religions, actual dates are pending
Basically in Yndsen Arcas, Doner was not even a god, but rather a primordial force like Chaos in Greek mythology. The gods were lauded for bring order to Doner's chaos and such. So the priesthood was small, unappreciated, unimportant and lacking a role in society. Thus five priest of Doner rose up to challenge it. Eadweard, his cousin Edgar, and his friends Carl, Herman, and Roderick. The cult of Doner had been strong in the Cerdef era, but waned considerably in the Yndsen era as Doner was not a member of Great Ten of the Imperial Cult.

They claimed that Doner was the head god of the Arcasan pantheon as he had created the realms and the gods and should be worshiped as such. They were controversial but tolerated as they did not threaten the Ten. They made great strides in their attempts to spread the teachings of Doner. But this all changed when Eadweard died of sickness. He was the leader of the group, the face of the movement, and really the one that kept things going. The group started splintering after his death. Carl and Roderick became more radical while Edgar and Herman were less sure. Herman attempted to keep the group together, but he died at a rally that turned into a riot. The riot occurred between the various factions of the movement. Each member had begun preaching a different version of the faith. This lead to tensions that exploded when a radical stabbed Herman and sparked the riot.

The group finally splintered, each going his own way. Roderick and Carl became outlaws and founded Haligism and Colotorasism (apologies for spelling mistakes in the names it is late here). Edgar stayed in the priesthood and became the high priest of Doner. Edgar took the name Eadweard I as his priestly name (a remnant of their power in the Cerdef Era) in honor of his cousin. He instituted many reforms that his cousin had advocated for and even became the first head of the Council of 11. However the damage was done and their theologies irreconcilable. Each one is seen as a hero by his followers, and the other two as traitors. The radicals that would found the monotheistic faiths see Edgar as a sell out (at best) and accuse the other of commanding Herman's death. The followers of Edgar believe that Edgar stayed true to Eadweard's "original" message and the other two took advantage of his death for their own gain.

But Halig does not believe in pure gods like in other religions. We are deists and believe that the Holies are more or less the "Gods" in here.
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Postby Bering » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:58 pm

Victoriala wrote:
Bering wrote:The religions, actual dates are pending
Basically in Yndsen Arcas, Doner was not even a god, but rather a primordial force like Chaos in Greek mythology. The gods were lauded for bring order to Doner's chaos and such. So the priesthood was small, unappreciated, unimportant and lacking a role in society. Thus five priest of Doner rose up to challenge it. Eadweard, his cousin Edgar, and his friends Carl, Herman, and Roderick. The cult of Doner had been strong in the Cerdef era, but waned considerably in the Yndsen era as Doner was not a member of Great Ten of the Imperial Cult.

They claimed that Doner was the head god of the Arcasan pantheon as he had created the realms and the gods and should be worshiped as such. They were controversial but tolerated as they did not threaten the Ten. They made great strides in their attempts to spread the teachings of Doner. But this all changed when Eadweard died of sickness. He was the leader of the group, the face of the movement, and really the one that kept things going. The group started splintering after his death. Carl and Roderick became more radical while Edgar and Herman were less sure. Herman attempted to keep the group together, but he died at a rally that turned into a riot. The riot occurred between the various factions of the movement. Each member had begun preaching a different version of the faith. This lead to tensions that exploded when a radical stabbed Herman and sparked the riot.

The group finally splintered, each going his own way. Roderick and Carl became outlaws and founded Haligism and Colotorasism (apologies for spelling mistakes in the names it is late here). Edgar stayed in the priesthood and became the high priest of Doner. Edgar took the name Eadweard I as his priestly name (a remnant of their power in the Cerdef Era) in honor of his cousin. He instituted many reforms that his cousin had advocated for and even became the first head of the Council of 11. However the damage was done and their theologies irreconcilable. Each one is seen as a hero by his followers, and the other two as traitors. The radicals that would found the monotheistic faiths see Edgar as a sell out (at best) and accuse the other of commanding Herman's death. The followers of Edgar believe that Edgar stayed true to Eadweard's "original" message and the other two took advantage of his death for their own gain.

But Halig does not believe in pure gods like in other religions. We are deists and believe that the Holies are more or less the "Gods" in here.

I know, that is why I said they radicalized and left it ambiguous as to how they did radicalize that way you can fill in the blanks as to how Roderick or Carl (whichever one you want) came to that conclusion. Maybe it wasn't him and instead one or several of his own disciples changed it into its current form.

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