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by Arlye Austros » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:40 pm

by New Frenco Empire » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:41 pm
Givious wrote:Logistica Suprema wrote:
Braavos was an exception, due to the exceptional nature of Braavos. If anything, the raven might rest in the Vale (Gulltown) before going to Braavos.
I still think that Braavos would be a stretch for a bird to fly
and ok... guess I won't get to post anything about Loran. Cool,
EDIT: Also like how Targaryen men at arms are dropping like flies

by Givious » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:53 pm
New Frenco Empire wrote:Givious wrote:
I still think that Braavos would be a stretch for a bird to fly
and ok... guess I won't get to post anything about Loran. Cool,
EDIT: Also like how Targaryen men at arms are dropping like flies
Eh, considering the distance between Braavos and the Vale, I think it isn't much of a stretch for a raven to make it there. Of course, I would have sent a trained seagull, but that's just me.
As for the Loran bit, you sorta did make your choice when you didn't drop your weapons. Ah well. His legacy will live on. Next post will be pretty sad, as Ser Maron writes in Loran's White Book entry, filling his page about how Ser Loran refused to yield to the Queenslayer, dying standing next to the Queen's corpse, being truer than any other white knight was that day.
EDIT: It appears that way in Garlan's POV. I'm sure the Reach has suffered appropriate causalities.

by Senkaku » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:58 pm
Givious wrote:New Frenco Empire wrote:Eh, considering the distance between Braavos and the Vale, I think it isn't much of a stretch for a raven to make it there. Of course, I would have sent a trained seagull, but that's just me.
As for the Loran bit, you sorta did make your choice when you didn't drop your weapons. Ah well. His legacy will live on. Next post will be pretty sad, as Ser Maron writes in Loran's White Book entry, filling his page about how Ser Loran refused to yield to the Queenslayer, dying standing next to the Queen's corpse, being truer than any other white knight was that day.
EDIT: It appears that way in Garlan's POV. I'm sure the Reach has suffered appropriate causalities.
Also would of expected a trained knight to not allow 5 guys into a room before engaging them, seeing as he had not posted them entering before I posted him defending the queen... but whatever.
Also, ravens don't fly over water... in fact they hate large bodies of water

by New Frenco Empire » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:59 pm
Givious wrote:New Frenco Empire wrote:Eh, considering the distance between Braavos and the Vale, I think it isn't much of a stretch for a raven to make it there. Of course, I would have sent a trained seagull, but that's just me.
As for the Loran bit, you sorta did make your choice when you didn't drop your weapons. Ah well. His legacy will live on. Next post will be pretty sad, as Ser Maron writes in Loran's White Book entry, filling his page about how Ser Loran refused to yield to the Queenslayer, dying standing next to the Queen's corpse, being truer than any other white knight was that day.
EDIT: It appears that way in Garlan's POV. I'm sure the Reach has suffered appropriate causalities.
Also would of expected a trained knight to not allow 5 guys into a room before engaging them, seeing as he had not posted them entering before I posted him defending the queen... but whatever.
Also, ravens don't fly over water... in fact they hate large bodies of water

by New Frenco Empire » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:01 pm
Senkaku wrote:Givious wrote:
Also would of expected a trained knight to not allow 5 guys into a room before engaging them, seeing as he had not posted them entering before I posted him defending the queen... but whatever.
Also, ravens don't fly over water... in fact they hate large bodies of water
First of all, ravens don't get that fussed over water.
Second of all, maybe he used a carrier pigeon, like the Volantenes?
Also, the Targaryen soldiers must have the Medieval version of Stormtrooper aim. It seems like they're getting killed awfully fast by... What, a hundred Tyrell soldiers at most?

by Senkaku » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:14 pm
New Frenco Empire wrote:Senkaku wrote:First of all, ravens don't get that fussed over water.
Second of all, maybe he used a carrier pigeon, like the Volantenes?
Also, the Targaryen soldiers must have the Medieval version of Stormtrooper aim. It seems like they're getting killed awfully fast by... What, a hundred Tyrell soldiers at most?
Pigeons might work.
As for the Targs, I just brush that off as a mixture of overwhelming force and element of surprise. They weren't readily expecting the more numerous gold cloaks to turn on them, for instance.

by Logistica Suprema » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:15 pm
Arlye Austros wrote:Hmmm... Not that it matters a lot, but Vardis is not actually informed about the Queen's death. He only knows there's been a coup.
New Frenco Empire wrote:Givious wrote:
I still think that Braavos would be a stretch for a bird to fly
and ok... guess I won't get to post anything about Loran. Cool,
EDIT: Also like how Targaryen men at arms are dropping like fliesSenkaku wrote:First of all, ravens don't get that fussed over water.
Second of all, maybe he used a carrier pigeon, like the Volantenes?
Also, the Targaryen soldiers must have the Medieval version of Stormtrooper aim. It seems like they're getting killed awfully fast by... What, a hundred Tyrell soldiers at most?
Eh, considering the distance between Braavos and the Vale, I think it isn't much of a stretch for a raven to make it there. Of course, I would have sent a trained seagull, but that's just me.
As for the Loran bit, you sorta did make your choice when you didn't drop your weapons. Ah well. His legacy will live on. Next post will be pretty sad, as Ser Maron writes in Loran's White Book entry, filling his page about how Ser Loran refused to yield to the Queenslayer, dying standing next to the Queen's corpse, being truer than any other white knight was that day.
EDIT: It appears that way in Garlan's POV. I'm sure the Reach has suffered appropriate causalities.
Senkaku wrote:New Frenco Empire wrote:Pigeons might work.
As for the Targs, I just brush that off as a mixture of overwhelming force and element of surprise. They weren't readily expecting the more numerous gold cloaks to turn on them, for instance.
Overwhelming force?
I thought the Gold Cloaks arrived, like, half an hour after Garlan started the coup, did they not? That seems like long enough to massacre some Tyrells and close the gates... But whatever. Surprise probably did have some effect, but... in small-scale combats like are happening in the Red Keep, it just seems like they have Stormtrooper aim, except with swords instead of blasters. Whatever, it doesn't matter that much now that the Gold Cloaks are there.
Also, isn't there someone playing Tyrosh? House Varquozii or something?
He may wish to look at my post, since Lysis Desseros is talking about burning the Tyroshi fleet and all that....

by New Frenco Empire » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:19 pm
Logistica Suprema wrote:Arlye Austros wrote:Hmmm... Not that it matters a lot, but Vardis is not actually informed about the Queen's death. He only knows there's been a coup.
Even better.New Frenco Empire wrote:
Eh, considering the distance between Braavos and the Vale, I think it isn't much of a stretch for a raven to make it there. Of course, I would have sent a trained seagull, but that's just me.
As for the Loran bit, you sorta did make your choice when you didn't drop your weapons. Ah well. His legacy will live on. Next post will be pretty sad, as Ser Maron writes in Loran's White Book entry, filling his page about how Ser Loran refused to yield to the Queenslayer, dying standing next to the Queen's corpse, being truer than any other white knight was that day.
EDIT: It appears that way in Garlan's POV. I'm sure the Reach has suffered appropriate causalities.
Yes, the Reach and Gold Cloaks causalities also number in the low hundreds. However, Garlan was moving around with a formed block of men, massacring the Targaryen men in small number. Since their leader, Rhogar, fled, it seemed unlikely that they would form into larger grounds. Using both the principals of divide and conquer, as well as the element of surprise, I think it's safe to assume that Garlan has satisfactorily defeated the Red Keep's Targaryen household, albeit suffering large causalities on the men with him.
-Of Margaery's seventy-five knights, I'd say more than forty-five remain. Thirty survived with relative impunity because they were sent to guard the tower.
-Of the Tyrell household, I would estimate further that no more than thirty men-at-arms remain--from the original one hundred, give or take.
-Of the Gold Cloaks, over one hundred have been killed in the Red Keep alone. Full numbers may vary, but come the morn, I should imagine the force will be lacking one hundred-and-fifty to two hundred men.
In short, House Tyrell is not without loss.
Furthermore, Loran Crassius is alive. I should have clarified that. The "blade on his neck" was a submission pose, not an impalement. Also, I could have written more knights rushing into the room, if that is what you so desire. Simply, Loran Crassius--while a good fighter--is not immune to the shear force of numbers Garlan wields.
Conclusively, whatever we assume of the manner with which Garlan contacted Braavos, I want to point out two things about its nature in this affair.
A) That the men Braavos Garlan contacted do not believe him queenslayer (in fact, his letter never mentioned it), thus:
B) The mercenaries Garlan means to contact will arrive in King's Landing before these Volantenes, and perhaps the Tyrell Fleet as well. Any fight shall be a very bloody one.Senkaku wrote:Overwhelming force?
I thought the Gold Cloaks arrived, like, half an hour after Garlan started the coup, did they not? That seems like long enough to massacre some Tyrells and close the gates... But whatever. Surprise probably did have some effect, but... in small-scale combats like are happening in the Red Keep, it just seems like they have Stormtrooper aim, except with swords instead of blasters. Whatever, it doesn't matter that much now that the Gold Cloaks are there.
Also, isn't there someone playing Tyrosh? House Varquozii or something?
He may wish to look at my post, since Lysis Desseros is talking about burning the Tyroshi fleet and all that....
Regrettably, Delmonte has left. Tyrosh has resumed its natural position, from what I understand.

by Givious » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:28 pm
Logistica Suprema wrote:Arlye Austros wrote:Hmmm... Not that it matters a lot, but Vardis is not actually informed about the Queen's death. He only knows there's been a coup.
Even better.New Frenco Empire wrote:
Eh, considering the distance between Braavos and the Vale, I think it isn't much of a stretch for a raven to make it there. Of course, I would have sent a trained seagull, but that's just me.
As for the Loran bit, you sorta did make your choice when you didn't drop your weapons. Ah well. His legacy will live on. Next post will be pretty sad, as Ser Maron writes in Loran's White Book entry, filling his page about how Ser Loran refused to yield to the Queenslayer, dying standing next to the Queen's corpse, being truer than any other white knight was that day.
EDIT: It appears that way in Garlan's POV. I'm sure the Reach has suffered appropriate causalities.
Yes, the Reach and Gold Cloaks causalities also number in the low hundreds. However, Garlan was moving around with a formed block of men, massacring the Targaryen men in small number. Since their leader, Rhogar, fled, it seemed unlikely that they would form into larger grounds. Using both the principals of divide and conquer, as well as the element of surprise, I think it's safe to assume that Garlan has satisfactorily defeated the Red Keep's Targaryen household, albeit suffering large causalities on the men with him.
-Of Margaery's seventy-five knights, I'd say more than forty-five remain. Thirty survived with relative impunity because they were sent to guard the tower.
-Of the Tyrell household, I would estimate further that no more than thirty men-at-arms remain--from the original one hundred, give or take.
-Of the Gold Cloaks, over one hundred have been killed in the Red Keep alone. Full numbers may vary, but come the morn, I should imagine the force will be lacking one hundred-and-fifty to two hundred men.
In short, House Tyrell is not without loss.
Furthermore, Loran Crassius is alive. I should have clarified that. The "blade on his neck" was a submission pose, not an impalement. Also, I could have written more knights rushing into the room, if that is what you so desire. Simply, Loran Crassius--while a good fighter--is not immune to the shear force of numbers Garlan wields.
Conclusively, whatever we assume of the manner with which Garlan contacted Braavos, I want to point out two things about its nature in this affair.
A) That the men Braavos Garlan contacted do not believe him queenslayer (in fact, his letter never mentioned it), thus:
B) The mercenaries Garlan means to contact will arrive in King's Landing before these Volantenes, and perhaps the Tyrell Fleet as well. Any fight shall be a very bloody one.Senkaku wrote:Overwhelming force?
I thought the Gold Cloaks arrived, like, half an hour after Garlan started the coup, did they not? That seems like long enough to massacre some Tyrells and close the gates... But whatever. Surprise probably did have some effect, but... in small-scale combats like are happening in the Red Keep, it just seems like they have Stormtrooper aim, except with swords instead of blasters. Whatever, it doesn't matter that much now that the Gold Cloaks are there.
Also, isn't there someone playing Tyrosh? House Varquozii or something?
He may wish to look at my post, since Lysis Desseros is talking about burning the Tyroshi fleet and all that....
Regrettably, Delmonte has left. Tyrosh has resumed its natural position, from what I understand.

by Logistica Suprema » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:50 pm
New Frenco Empire wrote:Logistica Suprema wrote:
Even better.
Yes, the Reach and Gold Cloaks causalities also number in the low hundreds. However, Garlan was moving around with a formed block of men, massacring the Targaryen men in small number. Since their leader, Rhogar, fled, it seemed unlikely that they would form into larger grounds. Using both the principals of divide and conquer, as well as the element of surprise, I think it's safe to assume that Garlan has satisfactorily defeated the Red Keep's Targaryen household, albeit suffering large causalities on the men with him.
-Of Margaery's seventy-five knights, I'd say more than forty-five remain. Thirty survived with relative impunity because they were sent to guard the tower.
-Of the Tyrell household, I would estimate further that no more than thirty men-at-arms remain--from the original one hundred, give or take.
-Of the Gold Cloaks, over one hundred have been killed in the Red Keep alone. Full numbers may vary, but come the morn, I should imagine the force will be lacking one hundred-and-fifty to two hundred men.
In short, House Tyrell is not without loss.
Furthermore, Loran Crassius is alive. I should have clarified that. The "blade on his neck" was a submission pose, not an impalement. Also, I could have written more knights rushing into the room, if that is what you so desire. Simply, Loran Crassius--while a good fighter--is not immune to the shear force of numbers Garlan wields.
Conclusively, whatever we assume of the manner with which Garlan contacted Braavos, I want to point out two things about its nature in this affair.
A) That the men Braavos Garlan contacted do not believe him queenslayer (in fact, his letter never mentioned it), thus:
B) The mercenaries Garlan means to contact will arrive in King's Landing before these Volantenes, and perhaps the Tyrell Fleet as well. Any fight shall be a very bloody one.
Regrettably, Delmonte has left. Tyrosh has resumed its natural position, from what I understand.
Well shit. I was going to make Loran's death a real character developer for Maron.
Ah well. I'll still write in that Loran decided to fight instead of give in.
Senkaku wrote:Ah.
Also, will the Tyrells be contacting Volantis, or is Lysis Desseros just going to have to send the fleet anyways?
Givious wrote:Logistica Suprema wrote:
Even better.
Yes, the Reach and Gold Cloaks causalities also number in the low hundreds. However, Garlan was moving around with a formed block of men, massacring the Targaryen men in small number. Since their leader, Rhogar, fled, it seemed unlikely that they would form into larger grounds. Using both the principals of divide and conquer, as well as the element of surprise, I think it's safe to assume that Garlan has satisfactorily defeated the Red Keep's Targaryen household, albeit suffering large causalities on the men with him.
-Of Margaery's seventy-five knights, I'd say more than forty-five remain. Thirty survived with relative impunity because they were sent to guard the tower.
-Of the Tyrell household, I would estimate further that no more than thirty men-at-arms remain--from the original one hundred, give or take.
-Of the Gold Cloaks, over one hundred have been killed in the Red Keep alone. Full numbers may vary, but come the morn, I should imagine the force will be lacking one hundred-and-fifty to two hundred men.
In short, House Tyrell is not without loss.
Furthermore, Loran Crassius is alive. I should have clarified that. The "blade on his neck" was a submission pose, not an impalement. Also, I could have written more knights rushing into the room, if that is what you so desire. Simply, Loran Crassius--while a good fighter--is not immune to the shear force of numbers Garlan wields.
Conclusively, whatever we assume of the manner with which Garlan contacted Braavos, I want to point out two things about its nature in this affair.
A) That the men Braavos Garlan contacted do not believe him queenslayer (in fact, his letter never mentioned it), thus:
B) The mercenaries Garlan means to contact will arrive in King's Landing before these Volantenes, and perhaps the Tyrell Fleet as well. Any fight shall be a very bloody one.
Regrettably, Delmonte has left. Tyrosh has resumed its natural position, from what I understand.
This is tho, with us have a large fleet in blackwater bay, we could stop your ships. I have the lords of the narrow sea's fleets, my own, bloodfyre, and the ships of the royal navy under my command... a sizeable fleet.

by Givious » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:58 pm
Logistica Suprema wrote:New Frenco Empire wrote:Well shit. I was going to make Loran's death a real character developer for Maron.
Ah well. I'll still write in that Loran decided to fight instead of give in.
Lo siento. I can kill Trystane for a character development, if you'd like.
Senkaku wrote:Ah.
Also, will the Tyrells be contacting Volantis, or is Lysis Desseros just going to have to send the fleet anyways?
It depends. If things go badly, Garlan will seek Volantene aid--but he wants to avoid being associated with slavers, at least for now.Givious wrote:
This is tho, with us have a large fleet in blackwater bay, we could stop your ships. I have the lords of the narrow sea's fleets, my own, bloodfyre, and the ships of the royal navy under my command... a sizeable fleet.
Numbers, please.

by Logistica Suprema » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:03 pm
Givious wrote:Logistica Suprema wrote:
Lo siento. I can kill Trystane for a character development, if you'd like.![]()
It depends. If things go badly, Garlan will seek Volantene aid--but he wants to avoid being associated with slavers, at least for now.
Numbers, please.
Looking at 50 from the royal fleet (10 of which are larger than 100 oars, another 2 800) 5 of my ships (2 of which are dromunds), majority of the Narrow sea lord's ships (Driftmark, Claw Isle, Sharps Point), 15 or so from the Bloodfyre fleet. All in all; maybe around 80-90 ships
Also, is that raven being sent to the Iron Bank, or a Iron Throne mediator in Braavos?

by Givious » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:04 pm
Logistica Suprema wrote:Givious wrote:
Looking at 50 from the royal fleet (10 of which are larger than 100 oars, another 2 800) 5 of my ships (2 of which are dromunds), majority of the Narrow sea lord's ships (Driftmark, Claw Isle, Sharps Point), 15 or so from the Bloodfyre fleet. All in all; maybe around 80-90 ships
Also, is that raven being sent to the Iron Bank, or a Iron Throne mediator in Braavos?
The Tyrell Fleet, which will arrive under the command of Lord Castellan Tarly, is of 120 galleys and 15 dromonds. I should think it would be victorious in a naval battle with the Royal Fleet.
Also, no raven has yet been sent to the Iron Bank. That raven was intended for a man in Braavos with connections to sorcerers and kindly men--it is Garlan's intention that they should bind a dragon (likely Viserion, who was already bond once) to him with the same spell that Euron Greyjoy used. It's success or failure is still dubious, and the dragons are on Dragonstone anyway.

by Logistica Suprema » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:09 pm
Givious wrote:Logistica Suprema wrote:
The Tyrell Fleet, which will arrive under the command of Lord Castellan Tarly, is of 120 galleys and 15 dromonds. I should think it would be victorious in a naval battle with the Royal Fleet.
Also, no raven has yet been sent to the Iron Bank. That raven was intended for a man in Braavos with connections to sorcerers and kindly men--it is Garlan's intention that they should bind a dragon (likely Viserion, who was already bond once) to him with the same spell that Euron Greyjoy used. It's success or failure is still dubious, and the dragons are on Dragonstone anyway.
That fleet would be far away, unless you had them moving before the RP began


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by Nuxipal » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:06 pm
Logistica Suprema wrote:Givious wrote:
King's landing has ships... its a port ya know
EDIT: Or a least it was the last time i checked
Oh, so you mean on locking down King's Landing? Well, Garlan's glad I can shift the blame onto Crassius.
EDIT: Just read the post. Errr . . . just because House Crassius is the blood of Old Valyria doesn't mean they can't casually hop on the deadliest killing machines in all existence for a ride. Same for House Bloodfyre. I hate to spoil the fun of dragonriders, but it just doesn't click that easily. If you want, I can provide numerous examples of failed dragonriders.

by Logistica Suprema » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:29 pm
Nuxipal wrote:Logistica Suprema wrote:
Oh, so you mean on locking down King's Landing? Well, Garlan's glad I can shift the blame onto Crassius.
EDIT: Just read the post. Errr . . . just because House Crassius is the blood of Old Valyria doesn't mean they can't casually hop on the deadliest killing machines in all existence for a ride. Same for House Bloodfyre. I hate to spoil the fun of dragonriders, but it just doesn't click that easily. If you want, I can provide numerous examples of failed dragonriders.
Bonding a Dragon who has a previous rider is much easier than bonding a wild Dragon. You give me a failed rider, I'll give you the reason and then a successful rider. First for a successful rider.
Maegor I Targaryen: Bonded to Balerion. Son of Aegon the Conqueror and Visenya Targaryen. Balerion was his father's dragon. Both his parents are of Valyrian blood, he is effectively a pure Valyrian. He likely spoke High Valyrian and his parents were originally of the Valyrian religion giving him access to greater knowledge of Dragons.

by New Frenco Empire » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:33 pm

by Kuhlfros » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:40 pm
New Frenco Empire wrote:Honestly, I have no problem with Crassius eventually taming the dragons, but come on! Not even a classic 80's-style training montage?
It would be pretty awesome if House Crassius basically barricades itself on Dragonstone, and when Tyrell finally decides to raid the island, they are greeted by dragonriders, who have been training since the day of the coup to control them.
for Tyrell
by Logistica Suprema » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:41 pm
New Frenco Empire wrote:Honestly, I have no problem with Crassius eventually taming the dragons, but come on! Not even a classic 80's-style training montage?
It would be pretty awesome if House Crassius basically barricades itself on Dragonstone, and when Tyrell finally decides to raid the island, they are greeted by dragonriders, who have been training since the day of the coup to control them.

by New Frenco Empire » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:51 pm
Kuhlfros wrote:New Frenco Empire wrote:Honestly, I have no problem with Crassius eventually taming the dragons, but come on! Not even a classic 80's-style training montage?
It would be pretty awesome if House Crassius basically barricades itself on Dragonstone, and when Tyrell finally decides to raid the island, they are greeted by dragonriders, who have been training since the day of the coup to control them.
Lol I love that idea
Meanwhile a Crassius declared North Marches to fight the Riverlands declaringfor Tyrell
Perhaps get the Vale's Armies with it once they teach the clans a thing or two March on South, Plan? Sounds good...will it work, It possible though we would be outnumbered against the Tyrell Army alone by around 5,000 men, Need more Supporters, Therefore Fighting in Riverlands, Which gives me curiosity on whom Dorne and the Stormlands would declare for.....and the Lannisters for that matter

by The United Realms Of Lords and Paradox » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:02 am
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