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Should there be a character reboot or another nation reboot?

Poll ended at Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:41 pm

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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:05 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Marsisian wrote:I like this idea.


Possibly . . . But it would be just as easy to simply occupy Eastern Pennsylvania. The least painful solution for both sides is too leave only thr Pennsylvania border open.

You would be facing guerrilla warfare in a foreign land with the military burning any crops and industry to the ground while they retreat to friendly territory, following which they could launch a counterattack.
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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:05 pm

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Marsisian wrote:If I'm going down, I'm taking you down with me.


That makes no sense (at least for me) im not putting boots on the ground.

Not you. The NAU or at least the NUSA.
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Postby Mesrane » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:05 pm

Taganian unfied states wrote:Is anyone opposed to me turning Hiwawi, Marshal Islands, Midway, and Wake Island into refueling stations for freightors going to Australia or Japan and ships heading to America. International ports

Why not just let the RA close its borders and fly goods into NUSA capital. Its what the Western Allies did in Berlin.


That's a good idea (the international ports)
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Postby Mesrane » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:06 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Mesrane wrote:
That makes no sense (at least for me) im not putting boots on the ground.

Not you. The NAU or at least the NUSA.


How many men and material are you willing to throw away just for Eastern Pennsylvania?
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Postby Marsisian » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:07 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Not you. The NAU or at least the NUSA.


How many men and material are you willing to throw away just for Eastern Pennsylvania?

What it takes.
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Taganian Unfied States
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Postby Taganian Unfied States » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:08 pm

Guys.... humanity has just been ripped by zombies... and we r redy to eachother againn

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Postby Mesrane » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:08 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Mesrane wrote:
Possibly . . . But it would be just as easy to simply occupy Eastern Pennsylvania. The least painful solution for both sides is too leave only thr Pennsylvania border open.

You would be facing guerrilla warfare in a foreign land with the military burning any crops and industry to the ground while they retreat to friendly territory, following which they could launch a counterattack.


Right. A counterattack against all five NAU nations plus Japan and Australia.
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Postby Mesrane » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:09 pm

Taganian unfied states wrote:Guys.... humanity has just been ripped by zombies... and we r redy to eachother againn


If thats what Mars wants . . .
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Postby Marsisian » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:09 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Marsisian wrote:You would be facing guerrilla warfare in a foreign land with the military burning any crops and industry to the ground while they retreat to friendly territory, following which they could launch a counterattack.


Right. A counterattack against all five NAU nations plus Japan and Australia.

I would advise you read the first part of my sentence before you go replying.
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Postby Marsisian » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:09 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Taganian unfied states wrote:Guys.... humanity has just been ripped by zombies... and we r redy to eachother againn


If thats what Mars wants . . .

The real question is would all of our governments want a war? Would the Canadian government would have wanted a war?
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Taganian Unfied States
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Postby Taganian Unfied States » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:10 pm

Now hold on jack! Australia was all for getting Canadian territory back. But im not going to destroy the RoA over pride.
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Postby Mesrane » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:11 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Mesrane wrote:
How many men and material are you willing to throw away just for Eastern Pennsylvania?

What it takes.


Makes no sense. You dont have unlimited men and you are certaintly aren't immune to war exhaustion. Plus eastern pennsylvania was NUSA until very recently.
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Postby Mesrane » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:12 pm

Taganian unfied states wrote:Now hold on. Australia was all for getting Canadian territory back. But im not going to destroy the RoA over pride.


Did I ever suggest that? I dont want to destroy thr RoA. At this point a foreseable conflict is over Eastern Pennsylvania.
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Postby Marsisian » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:12 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Taganian unfied states wrote:Now hold on. Australia was all for getting Canadian territory back. But im not going to destroy the RoA over pride.


Did I ever suggest that? I dont want to destroy thr RoA. At this point a foreseable conflict is over Eastern Pennsylvania.

I will open up a narrow piece of airspace for the NUSA. That is all I will give up.
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Chiata
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Postby Chiata » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:14 pm

Taganian unfied states wrote:Is anyone opposed to me turning Hiwawi, Marshal Islands, Midway, and Wake Island into refueling stations for freightors going to Australia or Japan and ships heading to America. International ports

Why not just let the RA close its borders and fly goods into NUSA capital. Its what the Western Allies did in Berlin.


When the allies did this, it put severe logistical constraints on their aircraft and costed billions of dollars. Also, most of the cargo had to be dropped by parachute which resulted in damage to its contents a lot of the time. Lastly, oil was to dangerous to drop so they had to drop in tons (the actual ton) of coal in order to supply the city with a heat source. In turn, since coal is less efficient, the allies had to drop in even more cargo.

On a different topic, if you read my IC post, you can see how mest up my nation is. :p
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UED
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Postby UED » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:15 pm

can I reserve unified Korea?
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Taganian Unfied States
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Postby Taganian Unfied States » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:16 pm

Chiata wrote:
Taganian unfied states wrote:Is anyone opposed to me turning Hiwawi, Marshal Islands, Midway, and Wake Island into refueling stations for freightors going to Australia or Japan and ships heading to America. International ports

Why not just let the RA close its borders and fly goods into NUSA capital. Its what the Western Allies did in Berlin.


When the allies did this, it put severe logistical constraints on their aircraft and costed billions of dollars. Also, most of the cargo had to be dropped by parachute which resulted in damage to its contents a lot of the time. Lastly, oil was to dangerous to drop so they had to drop in tons (the actual ton) of coal in order to supply the city with a heat source. In turn, since coal is less efficient, the allies had to drop in even more cargo.

On a different topic, if you read my IC post, you can see how mest up my nation is. :p


Excellent point! But I can send ships to deliver supplies. Since I want all nations to agree to not destroying these ports.

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Postby Mesrane » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:18 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Mesrane wrote:
Did I ever suggest that? I dont want to destroy thr RoA. At this point a foreseable conflict is over Eastern Pennsylvania.

I will open up a narrow piece of airspace for the NUSA. That is all I will give up.


It works for me. I will have to talk this over with everyone else though.

So to make this official

1. You'll return all your Candian territories to Canada

2. Open up airspace for thr NUSA in Philly.




Am I forgetting anything?
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Postby Scotatrova » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:18 pm

UED wrote:can I reserve unified Korea?

Sure
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Postby Mesrane » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:18 pm

UED wrote:can I reserve unified Korea?


Check the map. I'm pretty sure its open.
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Postby Mesrane » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:19 pm

Scotatrova wrote:
UED wrote:can I reserve unified Korea?

Sure


Scot do you need filling in or have you been observing?
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Postby Scotatrova » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:21 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Scotatrova wrote:Sure


Scot do you need filling in or have you been observing?

I've been observing
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Postby Mesrane » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:23 pm

So Mars we have a deal on the two concessions?

When you say yes I will send a diplomat for peace ICly. At least between you and me. I stilll need to talk this through with the other guys.
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Postby Marsisian » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:25 pm

Mesrane wrote:So Mars we have a deal on the two concessions?

When you say yes I will send a diplomat for peace ICly. At least between you and me. I stilll need to talk this through with the other guys.

We have a deal. You know I will fight back in other ways, however. Just saying.
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Postby Mesrane » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:27 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Mesrane wrote:So Mars we have a deal on the two concessions?

When you say yes I will send a diplomat for peace ICly. At least between you and me. I stilll need to talk this through with the other guys.

We have a deal. You know I will fight back in other ways, and the hate between the NAU and RA will last a lifetime due to that betrayal. Just saying.


What betrayal? There was never any promise or alliance between us. They're was nothing to betray. We were supporting an ally enforce his rightful claims.

You can fight back economically fine. They're other nations to trade with.
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