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Postby Neo-Assyrian Empire » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:08 pm

Rob Halfordia wrote:
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:250k to 1.2 million?

That's what I'm talking about. It's a bit difficult to keep a well-maintained army that takes up a little more than a fifth of the pop, militaristic or not.

Didn't realize you had to translate some of this. But yeah, you can't have the defense and imperialism traits be at the same level unless if both traits are less than 5. And for a spin, I dunno. Maybe they're able to breath underwater for short periods of time? Maybe they dwell underground because their eyes are sensitive to light? It's your call there.

Since they live in the north, I had an idea. Perhaps they have a certain heat tolerance, meaning that they can't spend too long in high temps or they start to shut down. Like reverse hypothermia. It would likely start to shut down somewhere around 27°C.

Hmm... considering you're in northern Canada, maybe something a bit lower. Maybe 75-78 degrees F? (23.8-25.5 degrees C)
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:10 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Oh, sorry. Thought it was 350,000.

Do you still want to make contact?

Yep. Those humans are headed my way, right?
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Postby Lingang » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:11 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Lingang wrote:Do you still want to make contact?

Yep. Those humans are headed my way, right?

Yeah. I'll get a post up soon
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Postby Rob Halfordia » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:12 pm

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Rob Halfordia wrote:Since they live in the north, I had an idea. Perhaps they have a certain heat tolerance, meaning that they can't spend too long in high temps or they start to shut down. Like reverse hypothermia. It would likely start to shut down somewhere around 27°C.

Hmm... considering you're in northern Canada, maybe something a bit lower. Maybe 75-78 degrees F? (23.8-25.5 degrees C)

How about this. At 25°C they become significantly weakened. At 27°C they begin to show early signs of their body shutting down. At 30°C they go unconscious and possibly die.
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Postby Jordslag » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:13 pm

Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:
Rob Halfordia wrote:Since they live in the north, I had an idea. Perhaps they have a certain heat tolerance, meaning that they can't spend too long in high temps or they start to shut down. Like reverse hypothermia. It would likely start to shut down somewhere around 27°C.

Hmm... considering you're in northern Canada, maybe something a bit lower. Maybe 75-78 degrees F? (23.8-25.5 degrees C)

Neo, just to let you know, I have a small ship full of angry, screaming, annoying Raccoons headed your way. XD

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Postby Lingang » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:17 pm

Jordslag wrote:
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:Hmm... considering you're in northern Canada, maybe something a bit lower. Maybe 75-78 degrees F? (23.8-25.5 degrees C)

Neo, just to let you know, I have a small ship full of angry, screaming, annoying Raccoons headed your way. XD

But wait, aren't you in America?
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Postby Ptolemais » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:17 pm

Durmatagno wrote:20% wasn't unheard of during this tech level, I think one of the ancient Chinese states had 20-25%, but that was during a turbulent time. !0-15% should be the average not-at-war right now, and even that's large.


Having a professional standing army is a relatively modern concept. Until a few hundred years ago, armies were predominantly volunteer or conscript in times of war. Rulers of course kept some professional soldiers, but they were minuscule and never made up the majority of the army. The costs associated with a large standing army made keeping them in times of peace nearly impossible, as demonstrated by the English Republic during military rule which essentially went bankrupt. As well, the larger your army the less manpower you have for other things, like growing your economy or advancing your technology level.
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Postby Neo-Assyrian Empire » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:18 pm

Jordslag wrote:
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:Hmm... considering you're in northern Canada, maybe something a bit lower. Maybe 75-78 degrees F? (23.8-25.5 degrees C)

Neo, just to let you know, I have a small ship full of angry, screaming, annoying Raccoons headed your way. XD

Ah, so Greenland shall be the site of the Great Wolf-Raccoon War. It shall be an Epic for our great, great, great grandchildren to enjoy and, one day, they may ask their great, great, great grandpappy "Where were in in the Great Wolf-Raccoon War?"

But... neither of us are in Greenland. This is going to be a problem, getting from either Iceland to Canada or vice versa.
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Postby Rob Halfordia » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:20 pm

Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:
Jordslag wrote:Neo, just to let you know, I have a small ship full of angry, screaming, annoying Raccoons headed your way. XD

Ah, so Greenland shall be the site of the Great Wolf-Raccoon War. It shall be an Epic for our great, great, great grandchildren to enjoy and, one day, they may ask their great, great, great grandpappy "Where were in in the Great Wolf-Raccoon War?"

But... neither of us are in Greenland. This is going to be a problem, getting from either Iceland to Canada or vice versa.

So, am I accepted?
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Postby Durmatagno » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:20 pm

Ooooo, idea. My race looks incredibly human till you start to get close, nearby raiders/war bands/bandits might see us as easy prey, espcially if they've been in the northern area which isn't part of the republic yet. A raider group or what have you pushes deeper and hits Rose Republic provinces where they go from city states and nomads, to a full nation with a well trained military.
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Postby Neo-Assyrian Empire » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:24 pm

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Firstaria wrote:
...I meant "It means you are inactive for me". I prefer quality over quantity too, but realize that over 12 people accepted like 4-5 posted and most of the post are about the south-american war. I really have to believe an intro post is so hard for so many names on that list? And no, I'm not talking about the OP, as he has to mod this topic.


I have Lingangs Romanesque Men to my West/South-West, I have the Devaskyl to my west/north/North-west, Zylon to my north-east/east/south-east, and Oni to my south, I need to know what those people think a good way to start is before I post, though most if not all of them seem like it'd be war (Honestly the reason my military is so large (750K of Ten million, 7.5%, is probaboly the Oni to my South or the Devaskyl, but we haven't had any official contact, just uncontacted "barbarians" surround us)<-<

We could make peaceful contact. To be honest, the Devaskyl are more worried about the Britons or the "Romans" to the west and south than they are of vampires to the south-east.
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Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:Hmm... considering you're in northern Canada, maybe something a bit lower. Maybe 75-78 degrees F? (23.8-25.5 degrees C)

How about this. At 25°C they become significantly weakened. At 27°C they begin to show early signs of their body shutting down. At 30°C they go unconscious and possibly die.

Sounds good to me. But there's still the problem of your nation's territory conflicting with Jordslag's.
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Postby Rob Halfordia » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:25 pm

Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:
Durmatagno wrote:
I have Lingangs Romanesque Men to my West/South-West, I have the Devaskyl to my west/north/North-west, Zylon to my north-east/east/south-east, and Oni to my south, I need to know what those people think a good way to start is before I post, though most if not all of them seem like it'd be war (Honestly the reason my military is so large (750K of Ten million, 7.5%, is probaboly the Oni to my South or the Devaskyl, but we haven't had any official contact, just uncontacted "barbarians" surround us)<-<

We could make peaceful contact. To be honest, the Devaskyl are more worried about the Britons or the "Romans" to the west and south than they are of vampires to the south-east.
Rob Halfordia wrote:How about this. At 25°C they become significantly weakened. At 27°C they begin to show early signs of their body shutting down. At 30°C they go unconscious and possibly die.

Sounds good to me. But there's still the problem of your nation's territory conflicting with Jordslag's.

Where is Jordslag's?
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Postby Ptolemais » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:25 pm

Who needs to be added to the map? I'll do a one time map update. Please show me your territory.

I'm also gonna throw some names on the map as well, so we know who is where.
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Postby Rob Halfordia » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:26 pm

Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:
Durmatagno wrote:
I have Lingangs Romanesque Men to my West/South-West, I have the Devaskyl to my west/north/North-west, Zylon to my north-east/east/south-east, and Oni to my south, I need to know what those people think a good way to start is before I post, though most if not all of them seem like it'd be war (Honestly the reason my military is so large (750K of Ten million, 7.5%, is probaboly the Oni to my South or the Devaskyl, but we haven't had any official contact, just uncontacted "barbarians" surround us)<-<

We could make peaceful contact. To be honest, the Devaskyl are more worried about the Britons or the "Romans" to the west and south than they are of vampires to the south-east.
Rob Halfordia wrote:How about this. At 25°C they become significantly weakened. At 27°C they begin to show early signs of their body shutting down. At 30°C they go unconscious and possibly die.

Sounds good to me. But there's still the problem of your nation's territory conflicting with Jordslag's.

Nevermind my last, I see his app. He can still have some of southern Canada though.
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Postby Jordslag » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:27 pm

Rob Halfordia wrote:
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:We could make peaceful contact. To be honest, the Devaskyl are more worried about the Britons or the "Romans" to the west and south than they are of vampires to the south-east.

Sounds good to me. But there's still the problem of your nation's territory conflicting with Jordslag's.

Where is Jordslag's?

South Eastern Canada, INCLUDING QUEBEC.

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Postby Jordslag » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:27 pm

Rob Halfordia wrote:
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:We could make peaceful contact. To be honest, the Devaskyl are more worried about the Britons or the "Romans" to the west and south than they are of vampires to the south-east.

Sounds good to me. But there's still the problem of your nation's territory conflicting with Jordslag's.

Nevermind my last, I see his app. He can still have some of southern Canada though.

My territory is already small, compared to other Nations. Please pick Greenland, or put your Nation somewhere else.

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Postby Lingang » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:29 pm

Durmatagno wrote:
Firstaria wrote:
...I meant "It means you are inactive for me". I prefer quality over quantity too, but realize that over 12 people accepted like 4-5 posted and most of the post are about the south-american war. I really have to believe an intro post is so hard for so many names on that list? And no, I'm not talking about the OP, as he has to mod this topic.


I have Lingangs Romanesque Men to my West/South-West, I have the Devaskyl to my west/north/North-west, Zylon to my north-east/east/south-east, and Oni to my south, I need to know what those people think a good way to start is before I post, though most if not all of them seem like it'd be war (Honestly the reason my military is so large (750K of Ten million, 7.5%, is probaboly the Oni to my South or the Devaskyl, but we haven't had any official contact, just uncontacted "barbarians" surround us)<-<

If I may ask, what is your species. My nation may look positivley upon you if you are humanoid
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:30 pm

Durmatagno wrote:Ooooo, idea. My race looks incredibly human till you start to get close, nearby raiders/war bands/bandits might see us as easy prey, espcially if they've been in the northern area which isn't part of the republic yet. A raider group or what have you pushes deeper and hits Rose Republic provinces where they go from city states and nomads, to a full nation with a well trained military.

That's pretty much how it goes in my nation too. If you start from the far west, it's mostly tribal outer clans consisting of nomadic horse-riders and small stationary communities. Past these are established cities and villages that do not maintain a standing army and receive little to no backup from the Fire Clan (Though ones to the east are supported by Inner Clans); these are the primary outer clans. Then, once you reach Afghanistan (Or if you come from Russia with Love): BAM! Inner Clans. Standing Armies. Professional standing armies. Professional standing armies full of well-equipped infantry and siege engines with fortress cities. On top of that these Inner Clans are in a defense pact with the Fire Clan, meaning they will come and support the Inner Clans in times of war.

You know, just to let you know the outline of Oni societies.
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Postby Rob Halfordia » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:31 pm

Jordslag wrote:
Rob Halfordia wrote:Nevermind my last, I see his app. He can still have some of southern Canada though.

My territory is already small, compared to other Nations. Please pick Greenland, or put your Nation somewhere else.

http://i.imgur.com/du08F54.png This could be my territory.
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Postby Neo-Assyrian Empire » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:32 pm

Rob Halfordia wrote:
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:We could make peaceful contact. To be honest, the Devaskyl are more worried about the Britons or the "Romans" to the west and south than they are of vampires to the south-east.

Sounds good to me. But there's still the problem of your nation's territory conflicting with Jordslag's.

Nevermind my last, I see his app. He can still have some of southern Canada though.

But the problem is that he won't have much.
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Rob Halfordia wrote:Where is Jordslag's?

South Eastern Canada, INCLUDING QUEBEC.

There's a problem, actually. Me, in my infinite wisdom, accepted both you and Kratu when you both have some conflicting territory. You two are really only clashing in species range, so if you two can work it out, then that'd be great. If not, then you or Kratu could always get some more land elsewhere near your territory.
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Postby Jordslag » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:33 pm

Rob Halfordia wrote:
Jordslag wrote:My territory is already small, compared to other Nations. Please pick Greenland, or put your Nation somewhere else.

http://i.imgur.com/du08F54.png This could be my territory.

Cut a tiny bit off the eastern part, and perfect.

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Postby Rob Halfordia » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:33 pm

Jordslag wrote:
Rob Halfordia wrote:http://i.imgur.com/du08F54.png This could be my territory.

Cut a tiny bit off the eastern part, and perfect.

I've gone as far as I will.
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Postby Jordslag » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:34 pm

Rob Halfordia wrote:
Jordslag wrote:Cut a tiny bit off the eastern part, and perfect.

I've gone as far as I will.

Then there's still overlap. C'mon, just cut a tiny bit off. We need to leave the Humans SOME territory.

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Postby Durmatagno » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:35 pm

Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:We could make peaceful contact. To be honest, the Devaskyl are more worried about the Britons or the "Romans" to the west and south than they are of vampires to the south-east.


Sounds fun, how you wanna do it?
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Postby Rob Halfordia » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:36 pm

Jordslag wrote:
Rob Halfordia wrote:I've gone as far as I will.

Then there's still overlap. C'mon, just cut a tiny bit off. We need to leave the Humans SOME territory.

The Elite's main diet is human natives. Show me where to cut off.
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