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Firstaria
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Postby Firstaria » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:10 am

Ptolemais, I have to ask if I will see your post shortly, since I'm in GMT and in an hour I have to go.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:10 am

Rob Halfordia wrote:
Mnar Secundus wrote:Your guys are a bit OP, aren't they ... Anyway, so you'd embark on a travel that will take at least dozens of years, fight through half the species in the RP and engage in a campaign that has little chances of succeeding even after all of that, just to conquer a territory that you cannot know to exist and that is barely as big as your present one (and much smaller when we consider only the parts where your guys could actually exist)?

They would be trying to conquer northern Asia at that point, not Europe. And remember, they die at any temperature above 30 degrees Celsius.

You're trying to conquer northern Asia? Not on my watch.
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The Orson Empire wrote:You have 1 million?

I have 500,000. I thought I had the largest army in this RP.

However, I am planning to build up my army to 800,000, as I am going to be doing some good ole' conquesting. I eventually want to create an empire similar to the Roman Empire.


I have 750K ATM, but we're planning on securing the last of our land (IE The not-so-unified city states and other such just outside the republic) and expanding our borders around the Black Sea, though that's still being debated by the council and King.

Edit: Also one thing, according the the various maps (comparing to RL) We share the Ural River, if you sent any river boats down it towards the Caspian Sea, you'd hit at least one big city of ours, we have a few large cities on the Caspian sea and Castle-Town on Upstream from it.

Edit 2: Also you either cut around my territory, or managed not to spot or be spotted by any Rose Republic peeps, we jut out a bit east off the Northern bank of the Caspian Sea.

http://i.imgur.com/RWzZeY9.png

We know of your nation's existence. However, I did not know that we shared the Ural River. The capital of my nation (Solonia) is on the Ural River, so some of your species might come to this city to trade.

By the way, would you like to make an alliance? We could take over Europe together.
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Postby Firstaria » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:14 am

Guys, this was the most recent map.

http://i.imgur.com/rnH2nDU.png

Let's stop making more than one until the OP comes and can update the new one. That's why conquest and changes should be done only when LinLang or the OP are online, so they can update the map.
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Postby Durmatagno » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:17 am

Hehehe, we're already planning an alliance (OOCly) with the Devaskyl against the "Romans" so we can take the black sea, being allied with the Zylon would make it even easier. From your first post, it was implied that your nation only knew rumors of other sentient races. Yep, we share the Ural River, I have it where it pours into the Caspian Sea and a bit north of that, but then it curves into your land and back north. If we haven't met yet (still possible according to your first IC post), as soon as you get boats down the river/on the sea, we'd meet, we do a lot of fishing and trading between our ports on the Caspian sea.
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Postby Durmatagno » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:18 am

Firstaria wrote:Guys, this was the most recent map.

http://i.imgur.com/rnH2nDU.png

Let's stop making more than one until the OP comes and can update the new one. That's why conquest and changes should be done only when LinLang or the OP are online, so they can update the map.


The reason I post the one I made is because it actually distinguishes between species range and republic, though there won't be much of a distinction for much longer.
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Postby Rob Halfordia » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:19 am

Firstaria wrote:Guys, this was the most recent map.

http://i.imgur.com/rnH2nDU.png

Let's stop making more than one until the OP comes and can update the new one. That's why conquest and changes should be done only when LinLang or the OP are online, so they can update the map.

That map is wrong.
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Postby Firstaria » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:20 am

Rob Halfordia wrote:
Firstaria wrote:Guys, this was the most recent map.

http://i.imgur.com/rnH2nDU.png

Let's stop making more than one until the OP comes and can update the new one. That's why conquest and changes should be done only when LinLang or the OP are online, so they can update the map.

That map is wrong.


How? We all discussed on this map until you two woke up, arrived, and made that one.

Also specie range should mean where your specie exist, but is more of an existance than a dominance. I don't feel ok in making only a nation, considering this is 500 BC, and being big is BAD as communications are really scarce. Remember the roman empire?
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Postby Ptolemais » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:21 am

Jordslag wrote:Not the King. He thinks there are other lands out there. The other Foragers call him the 'Mad King', but he's the King, so they can't do anything about it. He actually believes in the Myth. Also, I let him have a higher population simply because my guys breed Über fast. By the end of next year, they will probably number slightly over 80,000.


Just so you know, my population is like 500,000 and we're supposed to be the smallest in the RP. The average is around 5 million, so if your people breed like crazy, you should be closer to that. That's for balance purposes. I mean, you can always voluntarily choose to play a relatively weak people with low numbers, but don't be surprised when you get mauled by a stronger species with a larger population than yours.

Rob Halfordia wrote:For us, it's he susceptibility to heat.


Ah, that's quite the Achilles heel. If it's 30 degrees, that's low enough to be a serious handicap. Your people are probably on par physically with Flugel, maybe a bit more so with the thicker hide, but we can fly which is our ace in the hole :p
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Postby Jordslag » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:22 am

Ptolemais wrote:
Jordslag wrote:Not the King. He thinks there are other lands out there. The other Foragers call him the 'Mad King', but he's the King, so they can't do anything about it. He actually believes in the Myth. Also, I let him have a higher population simply because my guys breed Über fast. By the end of next year, they will probably number slightly over 80,000.


Just so you know, my population is like 500,000 and we're supposed to be the smallest in the RP. The average is around 5 million, so if your people breed like crazy, you should be closer to that. That's for balance purposes. I mean, you can always voluntarily choose to play a relatively weak people with low numbers, but don't be surprised when you get mauled by a stronger species with a larger population than yours.

Rob Halfordia wrote:For us, it's he susceptibility to heat.


Ah, that's quite the Achilles heel. If it's 30 degrees, that's low enough to be a serious handycap. Your people are probably on par physically with Flugel, maybe a bit more so with the thicker hide, but we can fly which is our ace in the hole :p

Okay then, can I change it to 700,000?

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Postby Ghondra » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:23 am

So to all you Americans, It's 0:22 where I am, so Happy Fourth of July, and Happy 238th Anniversary to America!
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Postby Firstaria » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:25 am

I want to point out that human world population in 500 BC was around 500 million, and this is WORLD population, so even having 1 million people around is quite big considering you are a nation of a minor race.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:25 am

Durmatagno wrote:Hehehe, we're already planning an alliance (OOCly) with the Devaskyl against the "Romans" so we can take the black sea, being allied with the Zylon would make it even easier. From your first post, it was implied that your nation only knew rumors of other sentient races. Yep, we share the Ural River, I have it where it pours into the Caspian Sea and a bit north of that, but then it curves into your land and back north. If we haven't met yet (still possible according to your first IC post), as soon as you get boats down the river/on the sea, we'd meet, we do a lot of fishing and trading between our ports on the Caspian sea.

Ordinary civilians who have done business with your species know that they exist, but the Emperor and much of the upper class citizens do not know much about other species.

And wait, you are planning to ally with the Devaskyl? I am planning to conquer them. I guess I will have to postpone my plans to invade their nation. Perhaps we could take on the Oni instead.

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Postby Jordslag » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:26 am

Ghondra wrote:So to all you Americans, It's 0:22 where I am, so Happy Fourth of July, and Happy 238th Anniversary to America!

... It's July 3rd.

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Postby Rob Halfordia » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:26 am

Firstaria wrote:
Rob Halfordia wrote:That map is wrong.


How? We all discussed on this map until you two woke up, arrived, and made that one.

Also specie range should mean where your specie exist, but is more of an existance than a dominance. I don't feel ok in making only a nation, considering this is 500 BC, and being big is BAD as communications are really scarce. Remember the roman empire?

We controlled Northern Canada.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:26 am

Ghondra wrote:So to all you Americans, It's 0:22 where I am, so Happy Fourth of July, and Happy 238th Anniversary to America!

It is still July 3rd here. It is 12:26 PM where I live.

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Postby Ptolemais » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:26 am

Jordslag wrote:Okay then, can I change it to 700,000?


I'm not Co-OP or anything, so you'd have to ask OP, but i'd have absolutely no objections and even encourage it. You're still wayyyyyy below the average. If your species breed like crazy, there is no reason it shouldn't be up to 5million, unless you heavily factor in climate I guess.

Also, why the hell am I helping Furries? :p

Firstaria wrote:I want to point out that human world population in 500 BC was around 500 million, and this is WORLD population, so even having 1 million people around is quite big considering you are a nation of a minor race.


I know, but i'm only going off of what we have in the RP so far. 5million is about the average.
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Great Shogunate of Japan in 1914 AH RP - The Great War (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=287302)
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Postby Ghondra » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:27 am

The Orson Empire wrote:
Ghondra wrote:So to all you Americans, It's 0:22 where I am, so Happy Fourth of July, and Happy 238th Anniversary to America!

It is still July 3rd here. It is 12:26 PM where I live.

Well it's the Fourth of July for me.
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Postby Firstaria » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:27 am

Rob Halfordia wrote:
Firstaria wrote:
How? We all discussed on this map until you two woke up, arrived, and made that one.

Also specie range should mean where your specie exist, but is more of an existance than a dominance. I don't feel ok in making only a nation, considering this is 500 BC, and being big is BAD as communications are really scarce. Remember the roman empire?

We controlled Northern Canada.


...Which IS on the map!

http://i.imgur.com/rnH2nDU.png

Why you say it's wrong?
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Postby Firstaria » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:29 am

By the way, are the Oni actually active? I could plan a meeting with them too, but I don't see them online.
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Postby Rob Halfordia » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:29 am

Firstaria wrote:
Rob Halfordia wrote:We controlled Northern Canada.


...Which IS on the map!

http://i.imgur.com/rnH2nDU.png

Why you say it's wrong?

We are the red...
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Postby Firstaria » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:30 am

Rob Halfordia wrote:
Firstaria wrote:
...Which IS on the map!

http://i.imgur.com/rnH2nDU.png

Why you say it's wrong?

We are the red...


Well I don't know who the grey are, but this is the map the CO-OP/Map maker actually sent me, so it's better to do changes on this one instead of an old one he has to modify then after.
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Postby Durmatagno » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:30 am

The Orson Empire wrote:
Durmatagno wrote:Hehehe, we're already planning an alliance (OOCly) with the Devaskyl against the "Romans" so we can take the black sea, being allied with the Zylon would make it even easier. From your first post, it was implied that your nation only knew rumors of other sentient races. Yep, we share the Ural River, I have it where it pours into the Caspian Sea and a bit north of that, but then it curves into your land and back north. If we haven't met yet (still possible according to your first IC post), as soon as you get boats down the river/on the sea, we'd meet, we do a lot of fishing and trading between our ports on the Caspian sea.

Ordinary civilians who have done business with your species know that they exist, but the Emperor and much of the upper class citizens do not know much about other species.

And wait, you are planning to ally with the Devaskyl? I am planning to conquer them. I guess I will have to postpone my plans to invade their nation. Perhaps we could take on the Oni instead.


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Postby Rob Halfordia » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:31 am

Firstaria wrote:
Rob Halfordia wrote:We are the red...


Well I don't know who the grey are, but this is the map the CO-OP/Map maker actually sent me, so it's better to do changes on this one instead of an old one he has to modify then after.

When? I'll show you what I control. Let me find it.
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Postby Mnar Secundus » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:32 am

Firstaria wrote:
Rob Halfordia wrote:We are the red...


Well I don't know who the grey are, but this is the map the CO-OP/Map maker actually sent me, so it's better to do changes on this one instead of an old one he has to modify then after.

We're the gray. Why?

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Postby Jordslag » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:32 am

Firstaria wrote:
Rob Halfordia wrote:We controlled Northern Canada.


...Which IS on the map!

http://i.imgur.com/rnH2nDU.png

Why you say it's wrong?

Sorry, but it is wrong. The guy beneath me somehow controls parts of Ontario and Quebec, and I control Manitoba.

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