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Postby Charmera » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:02 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:So, the world is ruled by an Empress? This asks for the question how gender relations are in this world - I feel it's a pretty important thing to establish.

I assume that men and women both occupy the same place in society.
Though I suppose just because theres an empress does not mean things are such...
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The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:So, the world is ruled by an Empress? This asks for the question how gender relations are in this world - I feel it's a pretty important thing to establish.

I assume that men and women both occupy the same place in society.
Though I suppose just because theres an empress does not mean things are such...

Exactly. It's a critical thing to establish - we can't have all kinds of female archmages walking around in your standard fantasy genre's "clothing" while they're supposed to stay home and make bacon for the men, for instance.
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The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:
Charmera wrote:I assume that men and women both occupy the same place in society.
Though I suppose just because theres an empress does not mean things are such...

Exactly. It's a critical thing to establish - we can't have all kinds of female archmages walking around in your standard fantasy genre's "clothing" while they're supposed to stay home and make bacon for the men, for instance.

Mages are rare as it is, I don't think magic training would be limited to just men for that reason. Also, if too many mages are let out of the schools system, it stands to reason they might turn to non school magic or worse, forbidden magic.
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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:11 am

Well, was just giving an example. Could've said soldier instead of mage :P
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The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:Well, was just giving an example. Could've said soldier instead of mage :P

True, though we will have to wait for Harb before we get a definite answer.
I say it should be equal gender wise.
Or perhaps gender equality could be a recent development.
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I'd go with the latter, personally.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:02 am

Sorry for the delay in my arrival here, I was experiencing a burn out, but I've realized putting myself in a creative environment such as this thread is exactly what I need to reinvigorate myself.

I'll read over to catch up.

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Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:Sorry for the delay in my arrival here, I was experiencing a burn out, but I've realized putting myself in a creative environment such as this thread is exactly what I need to reinvigorate myself.

I'll read over to catch up.

Hello Jar, I was wondering where you'd gone. :)
Whats your opinion on the gender politics of Everland?
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I'd be willing to work on the capital. Could be a cool idea to have it include... floating islands.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:11 am

Charmera wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:Sorry for the delay in my arrival here, I was experiencing a burn out, but I've realized putting myself in a creative environment such as this thread is exactly what I need to reinvigorate myself.

I'll read over to catch up.

Hello Jar, I was wondering where you'd gone. :)
Whats your opinion on the gender politics of Everland?


From the information available so far... I think their either progressive or their a possible matriarchy/gynarchy.

Being Empress, it makes sense that her empire is made out of several unified countries, each ruled by a King or Queen of their own, which in terms of vassalage, they are above everyone in rank save the Empress who is regarded as the most supreme authority in Everland (that or a possible figurehead with no real power).

1- Empress (Supreme leader of all the regions making up Everland)

2- Kings/Queens (Leaders of each respective region making up Everland)

3- Dukes/Duchesses (Given authority by their respective King/Queen to rule over a specific area of a region making up Everland)

4- Counts/Countesses

5- Barons/Baronesses

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I used this source as a reference:

http://crusaderkings-two.wikia.com/wiki ... out_titles

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There don't need to be kings under the empress; that's happened before in history, mainly in Germany.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:13 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:I'd be willing to work on the capital. Could be a cool idea to have it include... floating islands.


Interesting....floating islands...they could maybe be used to house temples or some other important site that needs to be protected.

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Postby Charmera » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:14 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:There don't need to be kings under the empress; that's happened before in history, mainly in Germany.

Perhaps instead of kings, Lords would be better?
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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:15 am

Charmera wrote:
The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:There don't need to be kings under the empress; that's happened before in history, mainly in Germany.

Perhaps instead of kings, Lords would be better?

I personally tend to go with, indeed, lords.
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Postby Charmera » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:18 am

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:I'd be willing to work on the capital. Could be a cool idea to have it include... floating islands.


Interesting....floating islands...they could maybe be used to house temples or some other important site that needs to be protected.

Perhaps warded with Glyphs.
I would imagine the capital would be an almost unassailable fortress because of the possibility of a Titan attack.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:19 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:There don't need to be kings under the empress; that's happened before in history, mainly in Germany.


Holy Roman Empire is a good real life model to study, besides it does make sense for large empires to have various Kings working under a single Emperor, that's how its historically been in real life.

Even Empires as late as the British Empire did it (the Rajas were more or less equivalent to Kings who swore fealty to the British Empire).

Also, ethnicity is important.

A large empire like Everland means a diverse range of....ethnic groups, and they can be ruled better if the Empire installs them with a King (whose sworn fealty to the Empire) whose of their ethnic group as not everyone would be part of the same group as the Empress.

Besides, its a real life model, which means its a logical one and it exists for valid reasons, its just kind of impractical to assume a single centralized authority like the Empress can rule over a region as vast as Everland without proper delegation such as having Kings (or the equivalent title) under her command.

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Postby Charmera » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:20 am

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:There don't need to be kings under the empress; that's happened before in history, mainly in Germany.


Holy Roman Empire is a good real life model to study, besides it does make sense for large empires to have various Kings working under a single Emperor, that's how its historically been in real life.

Even Empires as late as the British Empire did it (the Rajas were more or less equivalent to Kings who swore fealty to the British Empire).

Also, ethnicity is important.

A large empire like Everland means a diverse range of....ethnic groups, and they can be ruled better if the Empire installs them with a King (whose sworn fealty to the Empire) whose of their ethnic group as not everyone would be part of the same group as the Empress.

Besides, its a real life model, which means its a logical one and it exists for valid reasons, its just kind of impractical to assume a single centralized authority like the Empress can rule over a region as vast as Everland without proper delegation such as having Kings (or the equivalent title) under her command.

Lords or Archdukes would be better than Kings or queens.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:26 am

Charmera wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Holy Roman Empire is a good real life model to study, besides it does make sense for large empires to have various Kings working under a single Emperor, that's how its historically been in real life.

Even Empires as late as the British Empire did it (the Rajas were more or less equivalent to Kings who swore fealty to the British Empire).

Also, ethnicity is important.

A large empire like Everland means a diverse range of....ethnic groups, and they can be ruled better if the Empire installs them with a King (whose sworn fealty to the Empire) whose of their ethnic group as not everyone would be part of the same group as the Empress.

Besides, its a real life model, which means its a logical one and it exists for valid reasons, its just kind of impractical to assume a single centralized authority like the Empress can rule over a region as vast as Everland without proper delegation such as having Kings (or the equivalent title) under her command.

Lords or Archdukes would be better than Kings or queens.


Lords sounds alright then....

So....what should we discuss next to build our world?

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I am willing to make a map/some maps.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:27 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:I am willing to make a map/some maps.


You can do that? Cool...

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Postby Charmera » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:28 am

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Charmera wrote:Lords or Archdukes would be better than Kings or queens.


Lords sounds alright then....

So....what should we discuss next to build our world?

I don't know...
What do you think of the magic system so far?
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:34 am

Charmera wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Lords sounds alright then....

So....what should we discuss next to build our world?

I don't know...
What do you think of the magic system so far?


So far I'm quite happy with it, enchantments can be used by anyone, but only a minority are actually born with true magic.

I also like the idea of academies for practicing magic, and the magical barrier used to protect the human population from the Titans.

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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:34 am

So we have the collective regions that make up Everland, maybe we should work out the names, locations and sizes of those regions and their respective Lords?

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Postby Charmera » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:36 am

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:So we have the collective regions that make up Everland, maybe we should work out the names, locations and sizes of those regions and their respective Lords?

We could, I'l have to help with that tomorrow, when I wake up... But I can try and stay awake to help.

I was wondering, for two posts, you and harb were posting IC. What was that about?
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:39 am

Charmera wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:So we have the collective regions that make up Everland, maybe we should work out the names, locations and sizes of those regions and their respective Lords?

We could, I'l have to help with that tomorrow, when I wake up... But I can try and stay awake to help.

I was wondering, for two posts, you and harb were posting IC. What was that about?


I suppose it was a prototype, a test run, a theory of beginning a world starting all the way from its genesis.

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