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Also Galadriel never was of the blood of Melian and because of how far down the line Celebrorn was to Thingol its unlikely he ever made it to Valinor. Taller then a man could be anywhere from a few feet taller to a million feet taller so don't play that game buddy. Along with that elves didn't fight Balrogs they died to Balrogs. Only the mightiest elves could face them and Celebrorn has no feats only tenuous translatable ones because of race which makes your argument very thin indeed. If all of Lorien was involved the Balrog would surely fall. As it is Galadriel and the Balrog are fairly even with the Balrog taking a slight majority due to his feats.
Yes, you're right that Galadriel is not of the blood of Melian however, I mean that Celeborn may have been alive in the Years of the Trees, before the elves ever came to Middle-Earth(the events of the Silmarils) as it says in this wiki: http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Celeborn.
Also, let's just stop arguing about the height of a Balrog because we will never know. How about we put it at around 10-15 feet? Also, Tolkien is not very specific about Celeborn, so we don't know on what level he is. So why don't we put him at a level at a little above Glorfindel. The debate about Balrogs is that even though Feanor died, if he had been a little more strategic, he might have not rushed ahead and gotten beaten.
The early conception of Balrogs makes them less terrible, and certainly more destructible, than they afterwards became: they existed in 'hundreds' (p. 170), and were slain by Tuor and the Gondothlim in large numbers: "thus five fell before Tuor's great axe Dramborleg, three before Ecthelion's sword, and two score were slain by the warriors of the king's house." —The Book of Lost Tales 2, commentary by Christopher Tolkien on The Fall of Gondolin.
"There came wolves and serpents and there came Balrogs one thousand, and there came Glomund the Father of Dragons." The Lost Road, Chapter 16. (Glomund's name became Glaurung when Tolkien wrote the Silmarillion.
When Tolkien developed Middle-earth as the backdrop for The Lord of the Rings, Balrogs became more formidable and terrible, and their number was much reduced. In the end Christopher Tolkien stated that there were "at most" seven Balrogs:
"In the margin my father wrote: 'There should not be supposed more than say 3 or at most 7 ever existed.' ”
–Morgoth's Ring, Section 2 (AAm*): Note 50
And yet, in The Silmarillion, which is considered canon, Tolkien wrote that during meant that those "few that fled and hid themselves" numbered only three or at most seven. http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Balrog
So you see, Balrogs can be defeated by elves. And also, what feats? Let's all remember that Galadriel is an ringbearer, has elven-magic, and was born in Valinor during the Years of the Trees, before the First Age had even begun. This is one powerful elf we're talking about here. With Celeborn and the rest of Lorien, I think they could take on the Balrog and win. Unlike Gandalf, Galadriel is not prohibited from using too much power. So this basically turns out to be, who is more powerful: Gandalf or Galadriel, Celeborn and Lorien. I love Gandalf but I would have to say Galadriel.
