The Third Age: A Lord of the Rings RP (OOC)

[G-Tech Corporation]

Eh? Didn't you just prove my point Dan; the Orcs and Balrog were in alliance, even if uneasy, and so there would be no logical reason Moria wouldn't post sentries and guards.

As far as Galadriel fighting the Balrog; victory for either is plausible really. The Balrog is inherently stronger certainly, being not created of Arda, but of before. Galadriel shares some blood of Melian, and has a Great Ring, likely making her akin in power to one of the Maia, but her victory would be by no means assured. Even with all of Lorien I would give the odds a wash really. But the Balrog, being unsure it would triumph, is likely loathe to try the test.

[Elerian]

Are there any factions left besides Dale? I don't really think this whole dragon thing is going to end up going anywhere.

[Limborg]

Eh? Didn't you just prove my point Dan; the Orcs and Balrog were in alliance, even if uneasy, and so there would be no logical reason Moria wouldn't post sentries and guards.

As far as Galadriel fighting the Balrog; victory for either is plausible really. The Balrog is inherently stronger certainly, being not created of Arda, but of before. Galadriel shares some blood of Melian, and has a Great Ring, likely making her akin in power to one of the Maia, but her victory would be by no means assured. Even with all of Lorien I would give the odds a wash really. But the Balrog, being unsure it would triumph, is likely loathe to try the test.

Yes it would, all explained earlier or at some point since we seem to have had this discussion multiple times

As for Galadriel, true, both have the odds, but no, all of Lorien would win from the Balrog, i wouldn't doubt that a second. A Balrog isn't the giant creature from the movies you know... According to Tolkien, a Balrog was "bigger then a man" wich implies that it would be slightly bigger, nothing more. Anyhow, i'm off for tonight.

[Limborg]

Are there any factions left besides Dale? I don't really think this whole dragon thing is going to end up going anywhere.

Blue Mountains and perhaps woodland Realm?

[Elerian]

Are there any factions left besides Dale? I don't really think this whole dragon thing is going to end up going anywhere.

Blue Mountains and perhaps woodland Realm?

I know I saw what you said before. G would probably know more than you.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Blue Mountains and perhaps woodland Realm?

I know I saw what you said before. G would probably know more than you.

Nah, he's right. Or a custom faction, alternatively.

[Bearon]

I honestly don't think either Galadriel or Celebrorn would be capable of defeating it. Besides that where are you getting the fact that everybody knew about it? If they did know about it why would they have taken the path through Moria.

Again, frodo chose the path.

Galadriel and Celeborn where one, if not, the most powerfull elves in Middle-Earth. Elves and Balrogs had fough in wars before during the early ages. Considering that Lothlórien would know instantly when the balrog would leave, those two would get to him and surely defeat him.

I highly doubt Gandalf would listen to Frodo if he knew for sure that there was a Bslrog in Moria. Also when did it ever show Celebrorn as powerful?

[Bearon]

Blue Mountains and perhaps woodland Realm?

I know I saw what you said before. G would probably know more than you.

I still wanted to recruit you to burn down Fangorn.

[Elerian]

I know I saw what you said before. G would probably know more than you.

I still wanted to recruit you to burn down Fangorn.

I know. But beyond that what would I do?

[Elerian]

I know I saw what you said before. G would probably know more than you.

Nah, he's right. Or a custom faction, alternatively.

Custom faction? So could I potentially be Tharbad again?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Nah, he's right. Or a custom faction, alternatively.

Custom faction? So could I potentially be Tharbad again?

Certainly, if you so wish.

[Elerian]

Custom faction? So could I potentially be Tharbad again?

Certainly, if you so wish.

You mind TGing me what my troop numbers would be?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Certainly, if you so wish.

You mind TGing me what my troop numbers would be?

A few thousand Lower Men, offhand, maybe a few ships. Really, whatever you think reasonable.

[Liecthenbourg]

So, guys, I'm thinking of making a proper construction time for Forts.
However, we'd need to factor in the materials being used and how many people are actually being tasked with doing this.

Also, I'll be getting a post up ICly soon.

[The Starlight]

I honestly don't think either Galadriel or Celebrorn would be capable of defeating it. Besides that where are you getting the fact that everybody knew about it? If they did know about it why would they have taken the path through Moria.

They may have thought that they wouldn't wake it.(Thanks Pippin!) Gandalf obviously knows about it, and Legolas says something like: Ai, Ai, A Balrog has come! While Gimli says: Durin's Bane!

[The Starlight]

So, guys, I'm thinking of making a proper construction time for Forts.
However, we'd need to factor in the materials being used and how many people are actually being tasked with doing this.

Also, I'll be getting a post up ICly soon.

That'll be good for me. Hopefully I don't have to wait ~10-15 IC pages

[The Starlight]

Again, frodo chose the path.

Galadriel and Celeborn where one, if not, the most powerful elves in Middle-Earth. Elves and Balrogs had fought in wars before during the early ages. Considering that Lothlórien would know instantly when the balrog would leave, those two would get to him and surely defeat him. http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Celeborn

I highly doubt Gandalf would listen to Frodo if he knew for sure that there was a Balrog in Moria. Also when did it ever show Celebrorn as powerful?

Well, Gandalf knew they had no other options and hoped that they could get through without awaking it.

Celeborn was a Prince of Doriath and a kinsman of Thingol, the King of Doriath. Celeborn was said to be the grandson of Thingol's brother Elmo. Celeborn's father was Galadhon and he had a brother named Galathil.

He also was possibly alive while the elves were still in Valinor ( Years of the Trees) Besides, look at Glorfindel, who actually defeated a Balrog, though he also died. We also see glimpses of his powers at the river when the Nazgul tried to cross. He was an elf-lord also, so we can safely assume that Celeborn would be capable of at least the same feats.

[The Starlight]

Before someone else nabs it, could I have a quest to slay the Balrog in Moria? I don't have to complete right away, right? And if I do succeed, what would the reward be? I would also need someone to RP as the Balrog when I'm ready for the quest.

[Maineiacs]

Speaking of quests, could I have one? I'm running out of ideas, and don't want to just sit around twiddling my thumbs until the Ring passes by.

[Limborg]

Again, frodo chose the path.

Galadriel and Celeborn where one, if not, the most powerfull elves in Middle-Earth. Elves and Balrogs had fough in wars before during the early ages. Considering that Lothlórien would know instantly when the balrog would leave, those two would get to him and surely defeat him.

I highly doubt Gandalf would listen to Frodo if he knew for sure that there was a Bslrog in Moria. Also when did it ever show Celebrorn as powerful?

Few things:
1.The dwarves knew about him, called him Durin's Bane. The Elves knew, called it the Nameless Terror. This implies that the Istari also knew since they knew probably everything that was going on in Middle-Earth and outside of it. Even Gimli and Legolas knew it was the balrog right away. Gandalf fought it becouse the two where kinda equals. I found out yesterday that the Balrog probably isn't the great devil that we know from the movie. In the books it was said that it was taller then a man, wich implies more to the theorie that it was a bit taller, perhpas twice as tall, but not a giant type. Aperrantly Gandalf had visited the place aswell between TA 2845 and TA 2950 in search of King Thrain ll.
2. The reason why the fellowship wen through Khazad-Dûm while Gandalf knew about the Balrog, was becouse of a few reasons.
As the first one, Saruman blocked the other ways, making it pretty much impossible to take another road. Secondly, if they would be quiet enough, they could just walk through it without any issues since the Orcs feared the Balrog and didn't acted upon anything becouse of that.
Third, As far as Gandalf and Gimli knew, Balin was still alive, he could lead them through the fortress. Later it appeared that he had died and all, but they didn't know that.
3.Galadriel:

She was one of the greatest of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and surpassed nearly all others in beauty, knowledge, and power. She was also the bearer of Nenya, one of the three Elven rings. Tolkien thought of her, along with Gil-Galad the Elven-king, as one of the mightiest and fairest of all the Elves left in Middle-earth.

Celeborn:

Celeborn was the Lord of Lothlórien. His wife was Galadriel, Lady of the Golden Wood. Celeborn was said to be the wisest elf in Middle-earth at the end of the Third Age.

Those two, could stand a good chance against the Balrog without a doubt, and with the rest of Lothlórien the Balrog would stand no chance.
Never forget that the elves fought Balrogs before, and so they where capable of defeating them.

[The Starlight]

Few things:
1.The dwarves knew about him, called him Durin's Bane. The Elves knew, called it the Nameless Terror. This implies that the Istari also knew since they knew probably everything that was going on in Middle-Earth and outside of it. Even Gimli and Legolas knew it was the balrog right away. Gandalf fought it becouse the two where kinda equals. I found out yesterday that the Balrog probably isn't the great devil that we know from the movie. In the books it was said that it was taller then a man, wich implies more to the theorie that it was a bit taller, perhpas twice as tall, but not a giant type. Aperrantly Gandalf had visited the place aswell between TA 2845 and TA 2950 in search of King Thrain ll.
2. The reason why the fellowship wen through Khazad-Dûm while Gandalf knew about the Balrog, was becouse of a few reasons.
As the first one, Saruman blocked the other ways, making it pretty much impossible to take another road. Secondly, if they would be quiet enough, they could just walk through it without any issues since the Orcs feared the Balrog and didn't acted upon anything becouse of that.
Third, As far as Gandalf and Gimli knew, Balin was still alive, he could lead them through the fortress. Later it appeared that he had died and all, but they didn't know that.
3.Galadriel:

She was one of the greatest of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and surpassed nearly all others in beauty, knowledge, and power. She was also the bearer of Nenya, one of the three Elven rings. Tolkien thought of her, along with Gil-Galad the Elven-king, as one of the mightiest and fairest of all the Elves left in Middle-earth.

Celeborn:

Celeborn was the Lord of Lothlórien. His wife was Galadriel, Lady of the Golden Wood. Celeborn was said to be the wisest elf in Middle-earth at the end of the Third Age.

Those two, could stand a good chance against the Balrog without a doubt, and with the rest of Lothlórien the Balrog would stand no chance.
Never forget that the elves fought Balrogs before, and so they where capable of defeating them.

Any ideas for my reward for slaying the Balrog?
Oh and g-tech, my archive is submitted. For those of you who don't know, you have to submit one detailing your forces the link is here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=300980&p=20707444#p20707444
and this is mine for those of you too lazy to go check it out:

Lórien

Heart of Elvendom on Earth, Laurelindórinan, The Golden Wood

Leaders: Lady Galadriel of the House of Finarfin and Olwë, Altáriel, Artanis, Nerwen, The Lady of Lórien, The Lady of the Wood and Light, Wielder of Nenya.
Lord Celeborn, Prince of Doriath, Lord of Eregion, Lord of Lothlórien, the Galadhrim, and the Golden Wood.

Holdings:

Caras Galadhon: (Stronghold with Barracks. Ballistae and 1 warship in construction) 500 Galadhrim Warriors, 75 Galadhrim Guards, 25 Galadhrim Elite Warriors, guard of Galadriel and Celeborn, 53 Noldorin Swordsmen, 75 Galadhrim Heavy Archers, 75 Galadhrim Spearmen, 25 Galadhrim Swordsmen.

Borders of Lothlórien: (Numerous Outposts) 65 Wardens.

North Fangorn Forest: (Outposts) 10 Galadhrim, 15 Wardens.

Cerin Amroth: (Fortified Hill with Ballistae in construction) 72 Ñoldorin Swordsmen, 25 Galadhrim Archers, 75 Galadhrim Spearmen, 30 Galadhrim Swordsmen, 35 Galadhrim Guards, 50 Galadhrim Warriors.

Garth Amrûn: (Eastern Fortress with 4 watchtowers, keep with barracks, strategy room, and bunker. Secret tunnel into forest, Ram, Ballistae and Ladders in construction) 200 Galadhrim Builders, 73 Wardens. Garrison to consist of 350 Galadhrim when completed.

Garth Annûn: (Western Fortress with 4 watchtowers, keep with barracks, strategy room, and bunker. Secret tunnel into forest, Ram and Ladders in construction) 200 Galadhrim Builders. Garrison to consist of 500 Galadhrim when completed.

Parth Celebrant: (Outposts) 23 Wardens, 8 Galadhrim Builders.

[Liecthenbourg]

Speaking of quests, could I have one? I'm running out of ideas, and don't want to just sit around twiddling my thumbs until the Ring passes by.

Yes, of course.
You're Rohan, correct?

[The Starlight]

Man, writing that archive and editing it made me feel so much better about the forces of Mordor. Let all evil beware Lady Galadriel and the elves of Lorien! You have been warned.

[The Starlight]

Speaking of quests, could I have one? I'm running out of ideas, and don't want to just sit around twiddling my thumbs until the Ring passes by.

Yes, of course.
You're Rohan, correct?

Is my quest to slay the Balrog accepted? And what about the rewards?

[Bearon]

Alright guys we just left Yellowstone so be prepared for better cleaner and longer posts. ;D

Also Galadriel never was of the blood of Melian and because of how far down the line Celebrorn was to Thingol its unlikely he ever made it to Valinor. Taller then a man could be anywhere from a few feet taller to a million feet taller so don't play that game buddy. Along with that elves didn't fight Balrogs they died to Balrogs. Only the mightiest elves could face them and Celebrorn has no feats only tenuous translatable ones because of race which makes your argument very thin indeed. If all of Lorien was involved the Balrog would surely fall. As it is Galadriel and the Balrog are fairly even with the Balrog taking a slight majority due to his feats.