The Third Age: A Lord of the Rings RP (OOC)

[Elerian]

What'd you have in mind Confed the great and powerful?

[G-Tech Corporation]

To be fair, nobody is RPing the Goblins, Harad, or Khand. And Saruman refuses to fight in any shape or form, so it's really just Mordor and Rhun. Plus Gondor is detaining most of Mordor's forces in the south.

That's not really being fair. We still have less player than you. Harad doesn't matter, neither does Khand. The Goblins fortified the passes before they left so that counts for something. And actually you have the spiders so they count as a player on your side. Saruman is indirectly helping you by burning shit and being scary. And Gondor has been routed so there isn't much to do with them. (Not to mention you still have a massive number of forces in reserve and lots all over the place)

I could certainly use Harad and Khand; they would allow me to assign forces north from the armies attacking Gondor, and use a serious force on Lorien or Rohan, instead of fighting a holding action. And I was counting canon factions- the fact that Goblins did some things doesn't change the fact that currently the amount of active Good factions is larger than the amount of Evil factions.

To be fair, nobody is RPing the Goblins, Harad, or Khand. And Saruman refuses to fight in any shape or form, so it's really just Mordor and Rhun. Plus Gondor is detaining most of Mordor's forces in the south.

Yes but you are Mordor! The goblins are weak anyway. But we are missing Rohan, Gondor, Arnor, Erebor, Mirkwood, and the Dwarves of the Blue Mountains.

Rohan is here in some form, Gondor had a RPer and is currently being RPed by Elerian, Arnor wut?, Erebor is at least somewhat active and on your side, alright, Mirkwood is inactive, but the Dwarves of Ered Luin have no canon role in this at all, like Lindon (though in this RP Lindon is certainly part of the action). Essentially you're down Mirkwood, but up Lindon, as far as War of the Ring participants. Whereas Evil is down Khand, Harad, and the Misty Mountains, and up nobody.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

What'd you have in mind Confed the great and powerful?

"Oh, lady Katla, great and powerful! You have been deceived terribly, for it is Sauron and his puppet Saruman who plan on enslaving all life on this good earth! Do not give your allegiance and will so easily to those who wish to use you as a weapon, fight for your own freedom as well as everything beautiful! No gem, no piece of gold will not belong to the Enemy when he succeeds! Harken to me, unleash your fury not on beauty, but on those who wish to enslave your will! I bid you, stand!"

Something like that, when Saruman sends you to dispatch Gandalf. It's that, or a fight to the death.

[Jordslag]

Bearon, I can't find the app on your Star Wars thread.

[Elerian]

Now you're just being silly G. Rohan doesn't do squat. You accepted Val as Gondor so I no long control them (yet Val has yet to post which eliminates Gondor). Erebor, Dale, Lindon, Mirkwood, and Rivendell are all inactive and have done little to contribute to this RP. Which again leaves me and Starlight who combined have less than ten thousand men. You however have at least a hundred thousand Orcs and Lietch has probablubhalf that many men. Look at the facts because you seem to like to ignore them. That means you and Lietch have a 15 to 1 ratio on us. That's not including the spiders who have about ten thousand as well, who you also neglect to factor in.

[G-Tech Corporation]

What'd you have in mind Confed the great and powerful?

"Oh, lady Katla, great and powerful! You have been deceived terribly, for it is Sauron and his puppet Saruman who plan on enslaving all life on this good earth! Do not give your allegiance and will so easily to those who wish to use you as a weapon, fight for your own freedom as well as everything beautiful! No gem, no piece of gold will not belong to the Enemy when he succeeds! Harken to me, unleash your fury not on beauty, but on those who wish to enslave your will! I bid you, stand!"

Something like that, when Saruman sends you to dispatch Gandalf. It's that, or a fight to the death.

Hah, Sauron has few slaves, but many soldiers. It is the West which seeks to subjugate all Orc-kind and the world of men behind the tyranny of the descendants of Numenor and the enchantments and villainy of the Elves. Sauron seeks enlightenment and order, progress, prosperity, while the Elves and Gondor would cling to the vestiges of a vanished age and their outmoded ideas rather than embrace the future.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Now you're just being silly G. Rohan doesn't do squat. You accepted Val as Gondor so I no long control them (yet Val has yet to post which eliminates Gondor). Erebor, Dale, Lindon, Mirkwood, and Rivendell are all inactive and have done little to contribute to this RP. Which again leaves me and Starlight who combined have less than ten thousand men. You however have at least a hundred thousand Orcs and Lietch has probablubhalf that many men. Look at the facts because you seem to like to ignore them. That means you and Lietch have a 15 to 1 ratio on us. That's not including the spiders who have about ten thousand as well, who you also neglect to factor in.

Rohan has posted near as much as Isengard, if not about battles and war. I haven't accepted Valentir formally because his app was wrong, so Gondor is still under your control. Erebor, Lindon, and Rivendell post, albeit not as much as most of us.

As far as the force ratios, all those forces are canonical; my forces are currently spread quite thin as it is, fighting on two fronts, and I'll soon be fighting on three or four. I and Liec have up over a hundred thousand soldiers each, whereas most Good realms gave up a few thousand, tops.

[Shaggai]

Is anyone going to respond to Gonurl?

[The Starlight]

Don't forget Dale Starlight!

Well, until the Dwarves (limborg) gets that sorted out, no reinforcements for me. I TGed him and he said that he may quit.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Is anyone going to respond to Gonurl?

I believe Starlight's up for that.

[Jordslag]

G-Tech, have those human guys fight back! Burning things is boring if they don't resist!

[Turkiet]

G, what will be my next step from now?

[G-Tech Corporation]

G-Tech, have those human guys fight back! Burning things is boring if they don't resist!

I shall, I shall.

G, what will be my next step from now?

You should be able to chase the presence of the Ring via the traces of it's passing, offhand.

[The Starlight]

Now you're just being silly G. Rohan doesn't do squat. You accepted Val as Gondor so I no long control them (yet Val has yet to post which eliminates Gondor). Erebor, Dale, Lindon, Mirkwood, and Rivendell are all inactive and have done little to contribute to this RP. Which again leaves me and Starlight who combined have less than ten thousand men. You however have at least a hundred thousand Orcs and Lietch has probablubhalf that many men. Look at the facts because you seem to like to ignore them. That means you and Lietch have a 15 to 1 ratio on us. That's not including the spiders who have about ten thousand as well, who you also neglect to factor in.

Rohan has posted near as much as Isengard, if not about battles and war. I haven't accepted Valentir formally because his app was wrong, so Gondor is still under your control. Erebor, Lindon, and Rivendell post, albeit not as much as most of us.

As far as the force ratios, all those forces are canonical; my forces are currently spread quite thin as it is, fighting on two fronts, and I'll soon be fighting on three or four. I and Liec have up over a hundred thousand soldiers each, whereas most Good realms gave up a few thousand, tops.

Well look at your and Liec forces near my area and compare it to mine.
G-tech

Dol Guldur: (Amon Lanc - Bastion (64k/500k) | Orc Pit) 5900 Morannon Orcs, 990 Snaga Orcs, 500 Black Uruks, 5000 Uruks, 100 Warg Riders (Morannon), 30 Olog-Hai, 10 Catapults, 1 Ram, 40 Ballistae
South Vale of Mirkwood: (Tower of Eyes - Outpost (13k/80k) | Orc Pit) 4700 Morannon Orcs, 1000 Snaga Orcs, 5 Trebuchets, 20 Olog-Hai
North Vale of Mirkwood: (The Jagged Fastness - (4k/10k) | Orc Pit - 1) 2000 Morannon Orcs, 10 Ballistae
South Limlight Vale: (Irkagnthand - Outpost (0k/80k) | Orc Pit) 7500 Morannon Orcs, 10 Catapults

Liec- Rhun

Dol-Guldur 20,000 Easterling Infantry, 2,000 Easterling Archers

Me...

orders of Lothlórien: (Numerous Outposts) 250 Wardens.

Northern Vale of Lothlorien:(Fortified Camp soon to have barracks) 100 Galadhrim Warriors, 79 Noldorin Swordsmen, 115 Wardens, 30 Galadhrim Spearmen, 50 Galadhrim Heavy Archers, 2 Ballistas and 2 Trebuchets.

Caras Galadhon: (Stronghold with Barracks and 1 Catapult, 1 Trebuchet, 1 Ballistae) 170 Galadhrim Warriors, 175 Galadhrim Guards, 25 Galadhrim Elite Warriors, guard of Galadriel and Celeborn, 166 Noldorin Swordsmen, 213 Galadhrim Heavy Archers, 80 Galadhrim Spearmen, 25 Galadhrim Swordsmen, 1 Warship.

Cerin Amroth: (Fortified Hill with Barracks, 2 Ballistas, 2 Catapults and 2 Trebuchets, 2 Rams, 15 Ladders and Barracks ) 163 Ñoldorin Swordsmen, 160 Galadhrim Spearmen, 30 Galadhrim Swordsmen, 35 Galadhrim Guards, 120 Galadhrim Warriors, 148 Galadhrim Heavy Archers.

Trees surrounding the Mirrormere: (Outpost) 5 Wardens

North Fangorn Forest: (Outposts) 10 Galadhrim, 49 Wardens.

Garth Amrûn: (in construction) (Eastern Fortress with 4 watchtowers, keep with barracks(completed), strategy room, and bunker. Secret tunnel into forest) 123 Wardens in surrounding trees. Garrison to consist of 500 Galadhrim when completed.

Garth Annûn: (construction halted) (Western Fortress with 4 watchtowers, keep with barracks(completed), strategy room, and bunker. Secret tunnel into forest to be in construction) . Garrison to consist of 500 Galadhrim when completed.

Celebrant Forest: (Outposts, partially burned)

Parth Celebrant: (Fortified Camp soon to have barracks) 300 Galadhrim Warriors, 25 Galadhrim Horse Archers, 25 Galadhrim Lancers, 100 Noldorin Swordsmen, 2 Ballistas, 2 Catapults.

In total Rhun and Mordor have 22,000 Easterlings ,20,100 Morannon Orcs, 20 Catapults, 50 Ballistae, , 1990 Snaga Orcs, 5 Trebuchets, 50 Olog-Hai, 500 Black Uruks, 5000 Uruks, 100 Warg Riders (Morannon), and 1 Ram.

I have 2,761 Galadhrim in total.

[G-Tech Corporation]

And Lindon, Tharbad, Erebor, who are all either attacking Dol Guldur or marching to your defense.

Looks like I've concentrated my forces well

[Elerian]

And Lindon, Tharbad, Erebor, who are all either attacking Dol Guldur or marching to your defense.

Looks like I've concentrated my forces well

It's still stupid.

[G-Tech Corporation]

And Lindon, Tharbad, Erebor, who are all either attacking Dol Guldur or marching to your defense.

Looks like I've concentrated my forces well

It's still stupid.

Why? Canonically the forces of Good faced far greater odds and triumphed. Better start pulling some strategy out of your planning sessions.

[Elerian]

It's still stupid.

Why? Canonically the forces of Good faced far greater odds and triumphed. Better start pulling some strategy out of your planning sessions.

I find it impossible against those odds. I might be good, but i'm certainly no miracle worker. Especially when we aren't allowed to have any half decent units.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Why? Canonically the forces of Good faced far greater odds and triumphed. Better start pulling some strategy out of your planning sessions.

I find it impossible against those odds. I might be good, but i'm certainly no miracle worker. Especially when we aren't allowed to have any half decent units.

Well, let's think about this critically. Lorien is packing ~4000 Elves, Lindon is contributing another 1900, and 700 Lower Men are coming from Tharbad. That's about, hm, 24-25,000 goblins equivalent. The Orcs are at a similar figure, meaning Good is outnumbered about two to one, less if Erebor sends a massive Dwarf army west. Not amazing odds, but far better than Rohan faced at Helm's Deep, or Gondor faced at Minas Tirith.

[Elerian]

Erm I think you're forgetting about the mass of Easterlings.

[The Starlight]

I find it impossible against those odds. I might be good, but i'm certainly no miracle worker. Especially when we aren't allowed to have any half decent units.

Well, let's think about this critically. Lorien is packing ~4000 Elves, Lindon is contributing another 1900, and 700 Lower Men are coming from Tharbad. That's about, hm, 24-25,000 goblins equivalent. The Orcs are at a similar figure, meaning Good is outnumbered about two to one, less if Erebor sends a massive Dwarf army west. Not amazing odds, but far better than Rohan faced at Helm's Deep, or Gondor faced at Minas Tirith.

More like 2700 elves for me.

[The Starlight]

This is what Limborg TGed me

Just ask Liech if he can tell if Dale and Erebor send soldiers. For me its really over...

[G-Tech Corporation]

Erm I think you're forgetting about the mass of Easterlings.

Ah, yes. Four to one then.

Still good odds for any Greek! Plus, the Elves will be fighting on the defensive, in a forest.

This is what Limborg TGed me

Just ask Liech if he can tell if Dale and Erebor send soldiers. For me its really over...

Erebor can certainly send soldiers. Dale, less so, because if Lim RPs Dale then I'll pick up Harad and Liec will pick up Khand and that just gets silly.

[The Starlight]

Erm I think you're forgetting about the mass of Easterlings.

Ah, yes. Four to one then.

Still good odds for any Greek! Plus, the Elves will be fighting on the defensive, in a forest.

This is what Limborg TGed me

Erebor can certainly send soldiers. Dale, less so, because if Lim RPs Dale then I'll pick up Harad and Liec will pick up Khand and that just gets silly.

Can I RP as the Erebor reinforcements then, because Lim has quit?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Ah, yes. Four to one then.

Still good odds for any Greek! Plus, the Elves will be fighting on the defensive, in a forest.



Erebor can certainly send soldiers. Dale, less so, because if Lim RPs Dale then I'll pick up Harad and Liec will pick up Khand and that just gets silly.

Can I RP as the Erebor reinforcements then, because Lim has quit?

Hmm, well, has he outright quit? That TG seemed to imply he's considering it, but hasn't done it yet. If so, yes, you can RP them starting their march of doom, since we know where Lim meant to send them.