Assassin's Creed: Spring of Nations

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Also, I dunno if you guys know how the Franco-Prusssian War started, but Bismark forged documents to make it seem like Napoleon was insulted by the German government and then France declared war on him.

Just figured y'all should be aware because realistically Bismark was a power hungry and cunning manipulator.

Doesn't really mean that the AC universe has that happen.

Yes it does.............

Like.......

There's a thing with historical characters......

Where the OP said you can't change shit like that......

[Marsisian]

Also, I dunno if you guys know how the Franco-Prusssian War started, but Bismark forged documents to make it seem like Napoleon was insulted by the German government and then France declared war on him.

Just figured y'all should be aware because realistically Bismark was a power hungry and cunning manipulator.

He wasn't power-hungry. Just a cunning man and excellent manipulator of events.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Also, I dunno if you guys know how the Franco-Prusssian War started, but Bismark forged documents to make it seem like Napoleon was insulted by the German government and then France declared war on him.

Just figured y'all should be aware because realistically Bismark was a power hungry and cunning manipulator.

He wasn't power-hungry. Just a cunning man and excellent manipulator of events.

Unifying Germany to become powerful. Power hungry.

[Marsisian]

He wasn't power-hungry. Just a cunning man and excellent manipulator of events.

Unifying Germany to become powerful. Power hungry.

Nope.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Unifying Germany to become powerful. Power hungry.

Nope.

He didn't just go and unify Germany because he was bored.

If you don't think that's why Bismrak did the whole German Unification bit. To create a powerful, single state, Germanic Empire that would be unmatched in its superiority. Welp, I dunno what to tell you.

[Korouse]

Unifying Germany to become powerful. Power hungry.

Nope.

Unifying Germany to make Germany powerful.

Yes!

[Marsisian]

Nope.

If you don't think that's why Bismrak did the whole German Unification bit. To create a powerful, single state, Germanic Empire that would be unmatched in its superiority. Welp, I dunno what to tell you.

That is exactly what he did but he was not power-hungry. He made Germany powerful. Not himself.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

That is exactly what he did but he was not power-hungry. He made Germany powerful. Not himself.

And by making Germany powerful he in turn makes himself powerful? When you extend the power of the country you run, you extend your own power?

Like I've heard this argument before on subjects similar to this and I don't see why people always skip that.

[Korouse]

That is exactly what he did but he was not power-hungry. He made Germany powerful. Not himself.

And by making Germany powerful he in turn makes himself powerful? When you extend the power of the country you run, you extend your own power?

Like I've heard this argument before on subjects similar to this and I don't see why people always skip that.

That's not always the intention.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

That's not always the intention.

It's almost always the intention.

Shocking news here, history books tend to forget the negatives to people they view as heroes.

If one were to do a simple browse of the Wikipedia Page for Bismark you would see that nothing he ever did could even be considered "pro-Assassin". Like really I suggest reading what this man did because like I get the feeling some of you are very mistaken about how Europe worked during this time period. The man intentionally sabotaged France's reputation with other European nations so France would not have any allies so he could kill it. The amount of manipulating and flat out lying he did just confirms what I'm stating here.

It's great you guys are getting into the RP, but Historical Characters can't be changed this drastically, because quite frankly, it's bullshit. You don't like what they did or how they acted, make up a character and have it do what you like.

[Korouse]

That's not always the intention.

It's almost always the intention.

Shocking news here, history books tend to forget the negatives to people they view as heroes.

If one were to do a simple browse of the Wikipedia Page for Bismark you would see that nothing he ever did could even be considered "pro-Assassin". Like really I suggest reading what this man did because like I get the feeling some of you are very mistaken about how Europe worked during this time period. The man intentionally sabotaged France's reputation with other European nations so France would not have any allies so he could kill it. The amount of manipulating and flat out lying he did just confirms what I'm stating here.

It's great you guys are getting into the RP, but Historical Characters can't be changed this drastically, because quite frankly, it's bullshit. You don't like what they did or how they acted, make up a character and have it do what you like.

Well then, you want every f*cking historical figure to be a Templar? Because, that's basically how it's gonna be unless the players intervene.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Well then, you want every f*cking historical figure to be a Templar? Because, that's basically how it's gonna be unless the players intervene.

What you're doing is a total personality revamp of the most important man of the time period. There are plenty of historical pro-Assassin characters of the time. Hell, we've given you all of France at this point. I'd say Italy but unification and more power so that also fits the more so pro-Templar leaning. Spain at this time was, well, interesting. You could easily have them lean pro-Assassin too. Denmark and the other Nords could also lean pro-Assassin. Read up on their leaders.

Edit: Also, you'd likely have the Pope on your side. The pope was opposed to Italian Unification (which is likely Templar backed) and would therefore seek your help to keep the Papal State alive. Hell, the man asked everyone else for help.

[Korouse]

Well then, you want every f*cking historical figure to be a Templar? Because, that's basically how it's gonna be unless the players intervene.

What you're doing is a total personality revamp of the most important man of the time period. There are plenty of historical pro-Assassin characters of the time. Hell, we've given you all of France at this point. I'd say Italy but unification and more power so that also fits the more so pro-Templar leaning. Spain at this time was, well, interesting. You could easily have them lean pro-Assassin too. Denmark and the other Nords could also lean pro-Assassin. Read up on their leaders.

Well, I'm gonna go ahead and say, Bismarck has more to offer to the Assassin's than Napoleon III. As far as I'm concerned, he's pretty independent.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Well, I'm gonna go ahead and say, Bismarck has more to offer to the Assassin's than Napoleon III. As far as I'm concerned, he's pretty independent.

Napoleon is irrelevant here. The Assassins have had a stronghold in France since the Bourbons got the boot. Regardless of what Bismark has to offer you, it is not based off of that. It is based off of his personality and ambitions, which you are attempting to change drastically.

[Kuhlfros]

Well then, you want every f*cking historical figure to be a Templar? Because, that's basically how it's gonna be unless the players intervene.

What you're doing is a total personality revamp of the most important man of the time period. There are plenty of historical pro-Assassin characters of the time. Hell, we've given you all of France at this point. I'd say Italy but unification and more power so that also fits the more so pro-Templar leaning. Spain at this time was, well, interesting. You could easily have them lean pro-Assassin too. Denmark and the other Nords could also lean pro-Assassin. Read up on their leaders.

Edit: Also, you'd likely have the Pope on your side. The pope was opposed to Italian Unification (which is likely Templar backed) and would therefore seek your help to keep the Papal State alive. Hell, the man asked everyone else for help.

He is right there, The Pope opposed Unification, and Opposed Capitalism (Templar Idea), So Catholics are no longer controlled by Templars

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

He is right there, The Pope opposed Unification, and Opposed Capitalism (Templar Idea), So Catholics are no longer controlled by Templars

Plus you have Marx on your side, you just didn't send enough people to properly ensure he was out of the hands of the Templars. Now he is in heavily pro-Templar Scotland in the hands of a Templar. What do the Templars plan on doing with him? Nothing, just making sure you don't find him.

Also, good luck trying to find him in Scotland. Easy to hide people there.

[Ganarhea]

He is right there, The Pope opposed Unification, and Opposed Capitalism (Templar Idea), So Catholics are no longer controlled by Templars

Plus you have Marx on your side, you just didn't send enough people to properly ensure he was out of the hands of the Templars. Now he is in heavily pro-Templar Scotland in the hands of a Templar. What do the Templars plan on doing with him? Nothing, just making sure you don't find him.

Also, good luck trying to find him in Scotland. Easy to hide people there.

Marx! Kill Andrew!

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Marx! Kill Andrew!

Which he should, but he doesn't know they are Templars c:

He won't be with Andrew much longer, I'm sure he'll find a Lord to go live with in Northern Scotland.

[Kuhlfros]

He is right there, The Pope opposed Unification, and Opposed Capitalism (Templar Idea), So Catholics are no longer controlled by Templars

Plus you have Marx on your side, you just didn't send enough people to properly ensure he was out of the hands of the Templars. Now he is in heavily pro-Templar Scotland in the hands of a Templar. What do the Templars plan on doing with him? Nothing, just making sure you don't find him.

Also, good luck trying to find him in Scotland. Easy to hide people there.

But, You have an Immigrant originally from Scotland, leading the Entire American Brotherhood *bumps chest
Bring it.

[Ghondra]

So what do you guys think about my new RP post?

[Korouse]

Just shush. Why are you mad the Assassin's got Germany on their side? For f*ck's sake the Kaiser is probably going to be pro-assassin too. It's going to be interesting.

[Korouse]

So what do you guys think about my new RP post?

It's funny.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Just shush. Why are you mad the Assassin's got Germany on their side? For f*ck's sake the Kaiser is probably going to be pro-assassin too. It's going to be interesting.

Because you are completely revamping the most important man in Europe's personality.

Plus, I'm pretty sure Sotoan has approved of being a Co-Op (via TG) and that is mainly why I am commenting on it.

Bismark is not pro-Assassin based on his historical (something you cannot change) personality. Continue to change it, and I will request Bismark is either removed from the RP as a playable character or made a neutral NPC.

[Ghondra]

So what do you guys think about my new RP post?

It's funny.

THAT WAS THE POINT!

[Ganarhea]

Hold on! Who is DEC-LAND?