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by The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:30 pm

by Ruridova » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:46 pm
Ruridova wrote:Unicario wrote:In breaking news,
The Holy Roman Empire has brutalized Brazil in the semi-finals of the World Cup, 7-1. This means that the HRE will either face the Low Countries, or Tawantinsuyu in the World Cup finals. Brazilians everywhere have been humiliated, as the HRE has shown them the might of blood and iron.
In breaking news,
The Orange and the White-and-Blue have remained unable to score against each other, despite multiple attempts by both sides, after 90 minutes of play. The semifinal match between Tawantisuyu and the Low Countries will now go to 30 minutes of extra time; if that does not decide the game, they will go to penalty kicks. The victor of the game will face Germany's might in the World Cup Finals; the loser will play against the humiliated Brazilians for third place.

by Ruridova » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:47 pm
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:Ruridova wrote:Andalusia is a region of southern Spain that, in this timeline, is Christian, like the remainder of Spain. Al-Andalus was the term for Muslim Spain. It has been agreed that Spain is not Muslim and thus not al-Andalus, and since Morocco is not Spain, Morocco is neither Andalusia nor al-Andalus.
I believe this will settle the trouble you're having with the name... that's pretty much the only thing that I took from Andalusia. Morocco is a caliphate in this RP, only it's a caliphate of Moroccans. The names of the government and all are still the same. The battles and such that took place between Muslim Spain and Portugal in the old RP will simply be now Catholic Spain vs. Muslim Morocco (Andalusia). The truth is I just like the name Al-Andalus, and Andalusia, and so as a result, the Moroccan Caliphate renamed itself the Caliphate of Al-Andalus, and the demonym of that is Andalusian. There will be a sect of Catholic Moroccans (Of both North African and Southwestern European descent that will attempt to leave Andalusia. (And as a result, the modest Nationalistic Kingdom of Spain will suffer refugees coming in from Morocco, but these refugees will be Catholic, only wishing for a more practical approach and asking the military to overthrow the Kingdom. Though this will be a seperate incident as the refugees will not do this to give the Andalusian Morocco a chance, they'll be doing it to try and overtake Spain and make it into their own political views nation (Keeping it Catholic in the process) the government will hence suffer a Civil War (Instead of Fascists vs. Monarchs, it's Monarchs vs. Oligarchs. I don't know when all these attempts happen, but Morocco has yet to be overthrown by the more radicalist Muslim Andalite Government. As I don't get too ahead of myself, this should settle this:The Vaktovian Empire wrote:So really, does anyone know if the Morocco player is returning? Because if not, I have layed out a realistic and accurate situation likely to occur (If not, then peace will just be the secondary option between the two ententes).
-Morocco will historically be a Kingdom, until recently becoming a small, regional-influenced Caliphate that attempted to mimic the successes of the Ottoman Empire, only they were only successful in doing such a thing on a regional level of North Africa.
-Morocco will slowly but steadily become anti-Spain, as relations both OTL and AWWAverse are both quite slight and tense throughout history.
-Since Morocco is Islamist, and Spain being predominantly Catholic, both sides begin to hate eachother even more. The Straight of Gibraltar although in British hands becomes the center of growing conflict and terrorism by the early 1930's.
-At some point from now and before 1940, Morocco will become a semi-rational Caliphate to a ultra-nationalistic, theocratic, psychotic Islamic state, close to or further rampant than that of OTL Iran. Morocco, will rename itself Andalusia (Because at least one thing I had to steal from the last RP while still retaining to cultural and regional guidelines) because it is the Southernmost province of Spain and the former of which used to be the Islamic Caliphate of Andalusia during the early days of Islamic Spain. From an undisclosed date to possibly into the early 1960's, or even 1970's, Andalusia and Spain will engage in a heavy Cold War, which at times will be a full-scale war and at other times be more laid back than the last years of the Cold War in the 1990's (At least from a U.S Perspective).
-Spain will eventually beat Andalusia, and install a puppet-state of Catholic officials, but by the 21st century, these officials will once again be overthrown and replaced by semi-psycho Islamic Dictators, but no longer Caliphs. In essence, Andalusia will be IRL Iraq reoccurring just like it has today.
Reasons for this:
-Well, I'm not the same unless I get someone to pester Spain.
-I really wanted to recreate what I did in the last RP, but not twisting history to say Spain is Muslim and Portugal is Catholic like I previously did to make what I wanted happen.
-Instead, I've chosen an Islamic country (Morocco) which is almost 99% Islamic. I've sculpted its IRL history so that the majority of it is accurate, only until recently a Caliphate overthrew the Kingdom attempting to copycat the late successes of the Ottomans.
-I will keep Spain Catholic the entire time, and there is exactly a 0% chance of Andalusia succeeding in defeating Spain and setting a flag in Madrid. (Because Europe would never allow such a thing to occur and it would be unrealistic, seeming as though I may have Andalusia's military become more powerful than Spain's at times, Italy and Portugal, as well as France, would never allow something like that to happen, and would at least donate arms to assist. However, Andalusia might, might invade and get as far as Granada, if not Murcia. It will never reach Madrid though.
On the likewise, Spain will likely get to Tangier, and possibly Casablanca, but it is unlikely it will ever reach Rabat because of such a high demand for security, especially in the later years in 1950-1960, and beyond.
-I decided on this because I hoped the reasons above^ explained rationally, would not be unrealistic (As I don't see them as such, since they fall in line with IRL regional religious and social groups and doesn't make Spain Muslim in anyway) would safice with Luz and Uni, as well as Ruri and Boji. And then I would file an app for Morocco after all is settled. With that, I hope you all consider my proposition, and reply to this. Thank You.

by Ruridova » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:49 pm

by Unicario » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:29 pm

by Ruridova » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:38 pm

by The Vaktovian Empire » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:18 am
Unicario wrote:If Morocco departs from Sunni Islam, Rum will call a jihad against it, and call upon all Muslims to take up arms against the false Caliph in Marrakesh. :3

by Ruridova » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:27 am
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:Unicario wrote:If Morocco departs from Sunni Islam, Rum will call a jihad against it, and call upon all Muslims to take up arms against the false Caliph in Marrakesh. :3
Andalite Islam is Sunni Islam, there was a point f deviation I do not recall. I will have to check il on it.
Anyway, there's no reason for jihad against it....
They both dislike Shiite Islam. Were just not exactly "Sunni" Sunni.
Also Rurik, it is a name not an identity. Sure the people will be similar as those of the retconned Andalusia but they will all be Moroccan and from north Africa.

by Unicario » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:13 am
Ruridova wrote:I reject your coalition and substitute my own.


by Ruridova » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:18 am

by Luziyca » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:21 am

by Ruridova » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:24 am
Luziyca wrote:Uh, Ruri, Guyane is very close with Mother Britain (and after the fall of France to the fascists, a major influencing power on society). We don't really mind the British.

by Luziyca » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:28 am

by Unicario » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:12 am

by Luziyca » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:00 pm

by Ruridova » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:06 pm
Unicario wrote:Quite, but we still hate them, you know. It's not like any of the four players who run Europe are going to try to reclaim it. The only country I could see being dumb enough to try it is Spain, and Spain would get it's ass handed to it by everybody else. >_>
I assume the OAS would tell Canada to sod off?

by Ruridova » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:10 pm

by Unicario » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:28 pm
Ruridova wrote:The fact that you people are refusing still strikes me as utterly, patently, ridiculous. "I don't like Brazil touching me, so I'm going to drive a large resource-powerful nation into the hands of the people who have repeatedly tried to destroy entire nations, opening the possibility that things could go seriously wrong and my country's very existence could be jeopardized. Seems logical."

by Ruridova » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:47 pm
Unicario wrote:Ruridova wrote:The fact that you people are refusing still strikes me as utterly, patently, ridiculous. "I don't like Brazil touching me, so I'm going to drive a large resource-powerful nation into the hands of the people who have repeatedly tried to destroy entire nations, opening the possibility that things could go seriously wrong and my country's very existence could be jeopardized. Seems logical."
I never said Tawantinsuyu would refuse. I just said that there was a large group of people in the country who didn't really want the CSA meddling in South America.

by Unicario » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:31 pm
Ruridova wrote:Unicario wrote:
I never said Tawantinsuyu would refuse. I just said that there was a large group of people in the country who didn't really want the CSA meddling in South America.
The CSA isn't 'meddling', unless you qualify our alliance with Venezuela as 'meddling'. It's just that the CSA finds the concept of Tawantisuyu invading Brazil as incredibly dangerous, incredibly foolish, incredibly unnecessary, incredibly short-sighted, and incredibly destructive. The Confederacy would prefer to see the free nations of the Americas united to stand against their mutual enemies, rather than kill their young men fighting each other.

by Ruridova » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:08 pm

by Unicario » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:16 pm


by Bojikami » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:32 pm
Unicario wrote:OHHHHHHHHHH SHIZNIT MOTHERFUCKERS, MEIJI JUST TORCHED A BIIIIIIIITCH!
That battle would be very controversial in Japan at first, having Empress Meiji in it, but it'd eventually be well loved.
List of ERB battles:
Season 1
1. Bill O'Reily vs. John Lennon
2. [worst dictator ever] vs. Dark Shogun (aka Darth Vader)
3. Chuck Norris vs. Jefferson Davis(?)
4. [annoying Confederate woman] vs. Lady Gaga
5. Kim Jong-il vs. Hulk Hogan
6. Justin Bieber vs. Beethoven
7. Einstein vs. Stephen Hawking
8. Genghis Khan vs. Easter Bunny
9. Napoleon vs. Napoleon
10. Billy Mays vs. Benjamin Franklin(?)
11. Gandalf vs. Dumbledore
12. William Shakespeare vs. Dr. Seuss
13. Mr. T vs. Mr. Rogers
14. Christopher Columbus vs. James Kirk
15. NicePeter vs. EpicLLOYD
Season 2
1. Battle #2 pt.2
2. Master Chief vs. Leonidas
3. Mario Bros. vs. Wright Bros.
4. Michael Jackson vs. Elvis Presley
5. Cleopatra vs. Marilyn Monroe
6. Steve Jobs vs. Bill Gates (With more than just Apple and Microsoft around, would this change?)
7. Freddie Mercury vs. Frank Sinatra
8. Barack Obama vs. [??]
9. Doc Brown vs. The Doctor
10. Bruce Lee vs. Clint Eastwood
11. Batman vs. Sherlock Holmes
12. Moses vs. Santa Claus
13. Adam vs. Eve
14. Mohandas Gandhi vs. Martin Luther King Jr.
15. Nikola Tesla vs. Thomas Edison
16. Babe Ruth vs. Lance Armstrong
17. Mozart vs. Skrillex
18. ??? (Rasputin v. Stalin makes no sense ATL, since neither man was really a major figure)
Season 3
1. Battle #2 pt.3
2. Blackbeard vs. Al Capone
3. Miley Cyrus vs. Joan d'Arc
4. Bob Ross vs. Pablo Picasso
5. Michael Jordan vs. Muhammad Ali
6. Donald Trump vs. Ebenezer Scrooge
7. Rick Grimes vs Walter White
8. Goku vs Superman
9. Stephen King vs Edgar Allan Poe (perhaps George von Licht instead of King?)
10. Empress Meiji vs. Queen Victoria
11. George Washington vs William Wallace (IDK about this, since Washington has an image of a martyr, so I don't think any CSA dudes would risk offending their own country over a depiction of the "martyr Washington"?)
There you go Ruri, here's a list of battles, I'll change it at your request.

by Ruridova » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:56 pm
Unicario wrote:OHHHHHHHHHH SHIZNIT MOTHERFUCKERS, MEIJI JUST TORCHED A BIIIIIIIITCH!
That battle would be very controversial in Japan at first, having Empress Meiji in it, but it'd eventually be well loved.
List of ERB battles:
Season 1
1. Bill O'Reily vs. John Lennon
2. [worst dictator ever] vs. Dark Shogun (aka Darth Vader)
3. Chuck Norris vs. Jefferson Davis(?)
4. [annoying Confederate woman] vs. Lady Gaga
5. Kim Jong-il vs. Hulk Hogan
6. Justin Bieber vs. Beethoven
7. Einstein vs. Stephen Hawking
8. Genghis Khan vs. Easter Bunny
9. Napoleon vs. Napoleon
10. Billy Mays vs. Benjamin Franklin(?)
11. Gandalf vs. Dumbledore
12. William Shakespeare vs. Dr. Seuss
13. Mr. T vs. Mr. Rogers
14. Christopher Columbus vs. James Kirk
15. NicePeter vs. EpicLLOYD
Season 2
1. Battle #2 pt.2
2. Master Chief vs. Leonidas
3. Mario Bros. vs. Wright Bros.
4. Michael Jackson vs. Elvis Presley
5. Cleopatra vs. Marilyn Monroe
6. Steve Jobs vs. Bill Gates (With more than just Apple and Microsoft around, would this change?)
7. Freddie Mercury vs. Frank Sinatra
8. Barack Obama vs. [??]
9. Doc Brown vs. The Doctor
10. Bruce Lee vs. Clint Eastwood
11. Batman vs. Sherlock Holmes
12. Moses vs. Santa Claus
13. Adam vs. Eve
14. Mohandas Gandhi vs. Martin Luther King Jr.
15. Nikola Tesla vs. Thomas Edison
16. Babe Ruth vs. Lance Armstrong
17. Mozart vs. Skrillex
18. ??? (Rasputin v. Stalin makes no sense ATL, since neither man was really a major figure)
Season 3
1. Battle #2 pt.3
2. Blackbeard vs. Al Capone
3. Miley Cyrus vs. Joan d'Arc
4. Bob Ross vs. Pablo Picasso
5. Michael Jordan vs. Muhammad Ali
6. Donald Trump vs. Ebenezer Scrooge
7. Rick Grimes vs Walter White
8. Goku vs Superman
9. Stephen King vs Edgar Allan Poe (perhaps George von Licht instead of King?)
10. Empress Meiji vs. Queen Victoria
11. George Washington vs William Wallace (IDK about this, since Washington has an image of a martyr, so I don't think any CSA dudes would risk offending their own country over a depiction of the "martyr Washington"?)
There you go Ruri, here's a list of battles, I'll change it at your request.
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