AWWA Part III-The Great War(OOC-Now Closed)

[Kargintina]

Well, if Russia is never going to be communist, whose going to be the Icon of communism?

Ukraine-Romania

[Ruridova]

Vak. Spain is not Andalus. That has been decided and Muslim Spain has been retconned with extreme prejudice.

[Luziyca]

Well, if Russia is never going to be communist, whose going to be the Icon of communism?

Ukraine-Romania

Boji beat you to it.

That said, Crimea will be very opposed to communism. Uzbekistan will fall in a civil war in the 1960s after communists in Karakalpakistan try and secede in 1968, a military coup in 1969 against the Emir of Uzbekistan (he flees to Dushanbe since he was also Emir of Tajikistan), ending in 1978, then until 1994, peace before electoral protests result in a four-year war, but Uzbekistan is reviving (Uzbekistan in 1988 was slated to surpass Kyrgyzstan in 2000, but it is getting richer now, but not as rich as Kazakhstan or Kyrgyzstan), Tajikistan's anti-communist, ditto with Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan is whatever the Tsars feel, China, Kyrgyzstan, Kenya, Kamuy-Mosir and Madagascar tolerate it, the Maldives declares communism un-Islamic (same with Tajikistan after 1979) but keeps it legal. Portugal outlawed communism until the 1970s when the Estado Novo (monarchs were puppets of Salazar) was deposed by socialists and nearly formed a Republic. The Canary and Madeiras will likely gain independence as a socialist state, initially pro-Soviet, but in 1995 was overthrown in a revolution (kind of like South Yemen due to the Moors), and the Azores will be anti-communist.

[Unicario]

In breaking news,

The Holy Roman Empire has brutalized Brazil in the semi-finals of the World Cup, 7-1. This means that the HRE will either face the Low Countries, or Tawantinsuyu in the World Cup finals. Brazilians everywhere have been humiliated, as the HRE has shown them the might of blood and iron.

[Ruridova]

In breaking news,

The Holy Roman Empire has brutalized Brazil in the semi-finals of the World Cup, 7-1. This means that the HRE will either face the Low Countries, or Tawantinsuyu in the World Cup finals. Brazilians everywhere have been humiliated, as the HRE has shown them the might of blood and iron.

DEUTSCHLAND DEUTSCHLAND ÜBER ALLES
ÜBER ALLES IN DER WELT
WENN ES STETS ZU SCHUTZ UND TRUTZE
BRUDERLICH ZUSAMMENHÄLT
VON DER MAAS BIS AN DIE MEMEL
VON DER ETSCH BIS AN DIE BELT
DEUTSCHLAND DEUTSCHLAND ÜBER ALLES
ÜBER ALLES IN DER WELT

DEUTSCHE FRAUE DEUTSCHE TREUE
DEUTSCHER WEIN UND DEUTSCHER SANG
SOLLEN IN DER WELT BEHALTEN
IHNREN ALTEN SCHÖNEN KLANG
UNS ZU EDLER TAT BEGEISTERN
UNSER GANZES LEBEN LANG
DEUTSCHE FRAUE DEUTSCHE TREUE
DEUTSCHER WEIN UND DEUTSCHER SANG

EINIGKEIT UND RECHT UND FREIHEIT
FÜR DAS DEUTSCHE VATERLAND
DANACH LASST UNS ALLE STREBEN
BRÜDERLICHT MIT HERZ UND HAND
EINIGKEIT UND RECHT UND FREIHEIT
SINS DES GLÜCKES UNTERPFAND
BLÜHE IM GLANZES DIESES GLÜCKES
BLÜHE DEUTSCHES VATERLAND

[Ruridova]

2014 FIFA World Cup - Brazil

ROUND OF 16

BRAZIL(BRA) 1 (3)
RIO GRANDE(RGD) 1 (2)

VENEZUELA(VEN) 2
THE VOLTA(VLT) 0

FRANCE(FRA) 2
NIGERIA(NGA) 0

GERMANY(HRE) 2
ALGERIA(ALG) 1

LOW COUNTRIES(LCR) 2
AL-MAYIQUH(AMQ) 1

URCA(CTR) 1 (5)
RUM(RUM) 1 (3)

TAWANTISUYU(TWS) 1
SWITZERLAND(SUI) 0

YUGOSLAVIA(YUG) 2
CONFEDERACY(CSA) 1

QUARTERFINALS

BRAZIL(BRA) 2
VENEZUELA(VEN) 1

GERMANY(HRE) 1
FRANCE(FRA) 0

LOW COUNTRIES(LCR) 0 (4)
URCA(CTR) 0 (3)

TAWANTISUYU(TWS) 1
YUGOSLAVIA(YUG) 0

SEMIFINALS

GERMANY(HRE) 7
BRAZIL(BRA) 1

LOW COUNTRIES(LCR) ?
TAWANTISUYU(TWS) ?

FINALS AND CONSOLATION

FINAL MATCH
GERMANY(HRE) ?
LOW COUNTRIES(LCR) or TAWANTISUYU(TWS) ?

CONSOLATION MATCH
BRAZIL(BRA) ?
LOW COUNTRIES(LCR) or TAWANTISUYU(TWS) ?

[Unicario]

Sengoku Festival

Celebrated every four years from 1333, the celebration took on a new face in 1833, when, for the 500th anniversary, it was transformed into a massive spectacle of Japanese acrobatics and coordination to tell the story of the rebirth of the Japanese Empire. It lasted until 1893, when Emperor Alexander formally dissolved the festival at it's 560th anniversary. He proclaimed the foundation of the Meiji Festival, which is now celebrated annually on Meiji's birthday. The celebration involves a massive military parade in Tokyo, a massive acrobatic festival akin to the old Sengoku Games, and is a day of national pride.

[The Vaktovian Empire]

Vak. Spain is not Andalus. That has been decided and Muslim Spain has been retconned with extreme prejudice.

No Morocco is Andalusia. We settled this already...

[Ruridova]

Vak. Spain is not Andalus. That has been decided and Muslim Spain has been retconned with extreme prejudice.

No Morocco is Andalusia. We settled this already...

Andalusia is a region of southern Spain that, in this timeline, is Christian, like the remainder of Spain. Al-Andalus was the term for Muslim Spain. It has been agreed that Spain is not Muslim and thus not al-Andalus, and since Morocco is not Spain, Morocco is neither Andalusia nor al-Andalus.

[Shrillland]

Good lord, now I feel bad for not being conveniently active. I just don't get a lot of time on the computer and I've already missed the battle of Midway. All I can do is apologise for not being on.

P.S. Kargintina, there is no north and south. Dakar is on a hook-shaped peninsula, unless you mean these are naval assaults.

[Luziyca]

Good lord, now I feel bad for not being conveniently active. I just don't get a lot of time on the computer and I've already missed the battle of Midway. All I can do is apologise for not being on.

Don't worry, Shrill.

Btw, would your African colonies wind up like their RL equivalents (Swaziland and Lesotho are like those OTL countries, ditto with South Africa (complete with apartheid from 1948-1994) and Zambia, Rhodesia was once rich before Mugabe renamed it Zimbabwe and trashed the place)?

[Shrillland]

Good lord, now I feel bad for not being conveniently active. I just don't get a lot of time on the computer and I've already missed the battle of Midway. All I can do is apologise for not being on.

Don't worry, Shrill.

Btw, would your African colonies wind up like their RL equivalents (Swaziland and Lesotho are like those OTL countries, ditto with South Africa (complete with apartheid from 1948-1994) and Zambia, Rhodesia was once rich before Mugabe renamed it Zimbabwe and trashed the place)?

For the most part. Though Liberia and Sierra Leone will become the Dominion of Liberia 1946, and potentially merge with the Senegambian Confederation(made a dominion in 1928) to form the independent United States of West Africa. It will break up in 1985 after Samuel Doe takes power in Williamsburg(OTL Monrovia).

[Luziyca]

Don't worry, Shrill.

Btw, would your African colonies wind up like their RL equivalents (Swaziland and Lesotho are like those OTL countries, ditto with South Africa (complete with apartheid from 1948-1994) and Zambia, Rhodesia was once rich before Mugabe renamed it Zimbabwe and trashed the place)?

For the most part. Though Liberia and Sierra Leone will become the Dominion of Liberia 1946, and potentially merge with the Senegambian Confederation(made a dominion in 1928) to form the independent United States of West Africa. It will break up in 1985 after Samuel Doe takes power in Williamsburg(OTL Monrovia).

Ah, so Mandela will exist in this timeline.

My African countries won't. Kenya was like New Zealand until 1978 when Idi Amin managed to destroy the economy in just several months and is now like South Africa while Madagascar is like Canada (Chinese and French are official, Parliament exists, but the natives from about 4.3% of the population).

[Kargintina]

Good lord, now I feel bad for not being conveniently active. I just don't get a lot of time on the computer and I've already missed the battle of Midway. All I can do is apologise for not being on.

P.S. Kargintina, there is no north and south. Dakar is on a hook-shaped peninsula, unless you mean these are naval assaults.

oh. oops

[Shrillland]

Good lord, now I feel bad for not being conveniently active. I just don't get a lot of time on the computer and I've already missed the battle of Midway. All I can do is apologise for not being on.

P.S. Kargintina, there is no north and south. Dakar is on a hook-shaped peninsula, unless you mean these are naval assaults.

oh. oops

It's all right. I've adjusted to fit the post.

Oh, and the Candaians won't retake Hawaii. I was thinking of a major battle which forces a naval stalemate for two years in the Pacific near San Francisco.

[Luziyca]

Updated list. I am tempted that maybe if NYC isn't a major city, Shrilland, perhaps either Toliara or Mahajanga hosts the 1964 World's Fair (or perhaps both NYC and Mahajanga/Toliara host separate World's Fair in 1964 with NYC also hosting one in 1965 like the 1907 example).

Universal Expositions/World Fairs
1851 - London, UK
1855 - Paris, France
1860 - London, UK
1867 - Paris, France
1873 - Vienna, Germany
1876 - Philadelphia, Canada
1878 - Paris, France
1879-80 - Sydney, New South Wales
1880-81 - Melbourne, Victoria
1888 - Barcelona, Catalonia
1889 - Paris, France
1893 - Chicago, CSA
1897 - Brussels, Netherlands
1900 - Paris, France
1901 - Buffalo, Canada
1904 - St. Louis, CSA
1905 - Liege, Netherlands
1906 - Milan, Italy
1907 - Dublin, UK
1907 - Norfolk, CSA
1909 - Seattle, Canada
1910 - Brussels, Netherlands
1911 - Turin, Italy
1913 - Ghent, Netherlands
1915 - San Francisco, CSA
1917 - San Diego, CSA
1922-23 - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
1929-30 - Seville, Spain
1929-30 - Barcelona, Catalonia
1933 - Chicago, CSA
1935 - Brussels, CSA
1937 - Paris, France
1939-40 - New York City, Canada
1942 - Shanghai, China
1945 -
1948 -
1949-50 - Port-au-Prince, Central America
1958 - Brussels, Netherlands
1962 - Seattle, Canada
1964-65 - New York City, Canada
1967 - Montreal, Quebec
1968 - San Antonio, CSA
1970 - Osaka, Japan
1974 - Spokane, Canada
1976 -
1978 -
1982 - Knoxville, CSA
1984 - New Orleans, CSA
1985 - Tsukuba, Japan
1986 - Vancouver, Canada
1988 - Brisbane, Australia
1992 - Seville, Spain
1992 - Genoa, Italy
1993 - Daejeon, Japan
1998 - Lisbon, Portugal
2000 - Hanover, Germany
2005 - Aichi, Japan
2010 - Shanghai, China
2012 - Yeosu, Japan
2015 - Milan, Italy
2017 - Akmola, Russia/Kazakh Yeli
2020 - Dubai, Arabia

[Kargintina]

Good lord, now I feel bad for not being conveniently active. I just don't get a lot of time on the computer and I've already missed the battle of Midway. All I can do is apologise for not being on.

P.S. Kargintina, there is no north and south. Dakar is on a hook-shaped peninsula, unless you mean these are naval assaults.

Can I have Senegal?

[Kargintina]

Updated list. I am tempted that maybe if NYC isn't a major city, Shrilland, perhaps either Toliara or Mahajanga hosts the 1964 World's Fair (or perhaps both NYC and Mahajanga/Toliara host separate World's Fair in 1964 with NYC also hosting one in 1965 like the 1907 example).

Universal Expositions/World Fairs
1851 - London, UK
1855 - Paris, France
1860 - London, UK
1867 - Paris, France
1873 - Vienna, Germany
1876 - Philadelphia, Canada
1878 - Paris, France
1879-80 - Sydney, New South Wales
1880-81 - Melbourne, Victoria
1888 - Barcelona, Catalonia
1889 - Paris, France
1893 - Chicago, CSA
1897 - Brussels, Netherlands
1900 - Paris, France
1901 - Buffalo, Canada
1904 - St. Louis, CSA
1905 - Liege, Netherlands
1906 - Milan, Italy
1907 - Dublin, UK
1907 - Norfolk, CSA
1909 - Seattle, Canada
1910 - Brussels, Netherlands
1911 - Turin, Italy
1913 - Ghent, Netherlands
1915 - San Francisco, CSA
1917 - San Diego, CSA
1922-23 - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
1929-30 - Seville, Spain
1929-30 - Barcelona, Catalonia
1933 - Chicago, CSA
1935 - Brussels, CSA
1937 - Paris, France
1939-40 - New York City, Canada
1942 - Shanghai, China
1945 -
1948 -
1949-50 - Port-au-Prince, Central America
1958 - Brussels, Netherlands
1962 - Seattle, Canada
1964-65 - New York City, Canada
1967 - Montreal, Quebec
1968 - San Antonio, CSA
1970 - Osaka, Japan
1974 - Spokane, Canada
1976 -
1978 -
1982 - Knoxville, CSA
1984 - New Orleans, CSA
1985 - Tsukuba, Japan
1986 - Vancouver, Canada
1988 - Brisbane, Australia
1992 - Seville, Spain
1992 - Genoa, Italy
1993 - Daejeon, Japan
1998 - Lisbon, Portugal
2000 - Hanover, Germany
2005 - Aichi, Japan
2010 - Shanghai, China
2012 - Yeosu, Japan
2015 - Milan, Italy
2017 - Akmola, Russia/Kazakh Yeli
2020 - Dubai, Arabia

France would like take the 1978 one

[Luziyca]

Hosts of World's Fair by nation
Arabia - 1
Australia - 1
Brazil - 1
Canada - 8
Catalonia - 2
Central America - 1
China - 2
CSA - 10
France - 6
Germany - 2
Italy - 4
Japan - 5
Netherlands - 5
New South Wales - 1
Portugal - 1
Quebec - 1
Russia - 1
UK - 3
Victoria - 1
Basically, I'm going to issue a cap. If you got four or less hosts per nation, you can claim a spot in the created slot. One slot, though, and two nations maximum.

[Shrillland]

Good lord, now I feel bad for not being conveniently active. I just don't get a lot of time on the computer and I've already missed the battle of Midway. All I can do is apologise for not being on.

P.S. Kargintina, there is no north and south. Dakar is on a hook-shaped peninsula, unless you mean these are naval assaults.

Can I have Senegal?

Hmm...I'm thinking about it. It means there will be no Senegambia, or it will be the weak version we got OTL in the 1980s. Also I have to consider the war as a whole, and who will be in a position to demand things at its end. Realistically it'll be an on-paper victory for the allies as at least two Axis states will cease to exist by its end. But yes, I'll at least give you the north including Dakar. The south I'm still thinking about.

[Kargintina]

Can I have Senegal?

Hmm...I'm thinking about it. It means there will be no Senegambia, or it will be the weak version we got OTL in the 1980s. Also I have to consider the war as a whole, and who will be in a position to demand things at its end. Realistically it'll be an on-paper victory for the allies as at least two Axis states will cease to exist by its end. But yes, I'll at least give you the north including Dakar. The south I'm still thinking about.

The South doesn't have much that interests me, and I plan on having the French lose in Gambia anyway so you can keep the south.

[Unicario]

oh. oops

It's all right. I've adjusted to fit the post.

Oh, and the Candaians won't retake Hawaii. I was thinking of a major battle which forces a naval stalemate for two years in the Pacific near San Francisco.

The canon that Ruri and I have is that the CSA gets brutalized navally, but manages to sneak past Japan's defences and launches a blitz operation, swarming Okinawa, Philippines and Vietnam. They capture Saigon before the Japanese drive them into the sea, killing hundreds of Confederate soldiers and imprisoning the lot, before launching reclamation operations. They fail to get a foothold in the Philippines as their entire fleet is sunk, and Okinawa, unfortunately, falls, but is liberated shortly thereafter.

[Ruridova]

In breaking news,

The Holy Roman Empire has brutalized Brazil in the semi-finals of the World Cup, 7-1. This means that the HRE will either face the Low Countries, or Tawantinsuyu in the World Cup finals. Brazilians everywhere have been humiliated, as the HRE has shown them the might of blood and iron.

In breaking news,

The Orange and the White-and-Blue have remained unable to score against each other, despite multiple attempts by both sides, after 90 minutes of play. The semifinal match between Tawantisuyu and the Low Countries will now go to 30 minutes of extra time; if that does not decide the game, they will go to penalty kicks. The victor of the game will face Germany's might in the World Cup Finals; the loser will play against the humiliated Brazilians for third place.

[Bojikami]

In breaking news,

The Holy Roman Empire has brutalized Brazil in the semi-finals of the World Cup, 7-1. This means that the HRE will either face the Low Countries, or Tawantinsuyu in the World Cup finals. Brazilians everywhere have been humiliated, as the HRE has shown them the might of blood and iron.

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[The Vaktovian Empire]

No Morocco is Andalusia. We settled this already...

Andalusia is a region of southern Spain that, in this timeline, is Christian, like the remainder of Spain. Al-Andalus was the term for Muslim Spain. It has been agreed that Spain is not Muslim and thus not al-Andalus, and since Morocco is not Spain, Morocco is neither Andalusia nor al-Andalus.

I believe this will settle the trouble you're having with the name... that's pretty much the only thing that I took from Andalusia. Morocco is a caliphate in this RP, only it's a caliphate of Moroccans. The names of the government and all are still the same. The battles and such that took place between Muslim Spain and Portugal in the old RP will simply be now Catholic Spain vs. Muslim Morocco (Andalusia). The truth is I just like the name Al-Andalus, and Andalusia, and so as a result, the Moroccan Caliphate renamed itself the Caliphate of Al-Andalus, and the demonym of that is Andalusian. There will be a sect of Catholic Moroccans (Of both North African and Southwestern European descent that will attempt to leave Andalusia. (And as a result, the modest Nationalistic Kingdom of Spain will suffer refugees coming in from Morocco, but these refugees will be Catholic, only wishing for a more practical approach and asking the military to overthrow the Kingdom. Though this will be a seperate incident as the refugees will not do this to give the Andalusian Morocco a chance, they'll be doing it to try and overtake Spain and make it into their own political views nation (Keeping it Catholic in the process) the government will hence suffer a Civil War (Instead of Fascists vs. Monarchs, it's Monarchs vs. Oligarchs. I don't know when all these attempts happen, but Morocco has yet to be overthrown by the more radicalist Muslim Andalite Government. As I don't get too ahead of myself, this should settle this:

So really, does anyone know if the Morocco player is returning? Because if not, I have layed out a realistic and accurate situation likely to occur (If not, then peace will just be the secondary option between the two ententes).
-Morocco will historically be a Kingdom, until recently becoming a small, regional-influenced Caliphate that attempted to mimic the successes of the Ottoman Empire, only they were only successful in doing such a thing on a regional level of North Africa.
-Morocco will slowly but steadily become anti-Spain, as relations both OTL and AWWAverse are both quite slight and tense throughout history.
-Since Morocco is Islamist, and Spain being predominantly Catholic, both sides begin to hate eachother even more. The Straight of Gibraltar although in British hands becomes the center of growing conflict and terrorism by the early 1930's.
-At some point from now and before 1940, Morocco will become a semi-rational Caliphate to a ultra-nationalistic, theocratic, psychotic Islamic state, close to or further rampant than that of OTL Iran. Morocco, will rename itself Andalusia (Because at least one thing I had to steal from the last RP while still retaining to cultural and regional guidelines) because it is the Southernmost province of Spain and the former of which used to be the Islamic Caliphate of Andalusia during the early days of Islamic Spain. From an undisclosed date to possibly into the early 1960's, or even 1970's, Andalusia and Spain will engage in a heavy Cold War, which at times will be a full-scale war and at other times be more laid back than the last years of the Cold War in the 1990's (At least from a U.S Perspective).
-Spain will eventually beat Andalusia, and install a puppet-state of Catholic officials, but by the 21st century, these officials will once again be overthrown and replaced by semi-psycho Islamic Dictators, but no longer Caliphs. In essence, Andalusia will be IRL Iraq reoccurring just like it has today.

Reasons for this:
-Well, I'm not the same unless I get someone to pester Spain.
-I really wanted to recreate what I did in the last RP, but not twisting history to say Spain is Muslim and Portugal is Catholic like I previously did to make what I wanted happen.
-Instead, I've chosen an Islamic country (Morocco) which is almost 99% Islamic. I've sculpted its IRL history so that the majority of it is accurate, only until recently a Caliphate overthrew the Kingdom attempting to copycat the late successes of the Ottomans.
-I will keep Spain Catholic the entire time, and there is exactly a 0% chance of Andalusia succeeding in defeating Spain and setting a flag in Madrid. (Because Europe would never allow such a thing to occur and it would be unrealistic, seeming as though I may have Andalusia's military become more powerful than Spain's at times, Italy and Portugal, as well as France, would never allow something like that to happen, and would at least donate arms to assist. However, Andalusia might, might invade and get as far as Granada, if not Murcia. It will never reach Madrid though.
On the likewise, Spain will likely get to Tangier, and possibly Casablanca, but it is unlikely it will ever reach Rabat because of such a high demand for security, especially in the later years in 1950-1960, and beyond.
-I decided on this because I hoped the reasons above^ explained rationally, would not be unrealistic (As I don't see them as such, since they fall in line with IRL regional religious and social groups and doesn't make Spain Muslim in anyway) would safice with Luz and Uni, as well as Ruri and Boji. And then I would file an app for Morocco after all is settled. With that, I hope you all consider my proposition, and reply to this. Thank You.