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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:08 pm

Shrillland wrote:That one is difficult. I think a few of them speak for themselves such as a united Maghreb, and I could also see South Africa uniting their own region under their flag. Beyond that, as you say, it gets difficult.


Would it make since for colonies like Sierra Leone and cote d'ivoire to be reaquried by such countries as England and France to protect their spheres of influence?

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Postby Unicario » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:11 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
Shrillland wrote:That one is difficult. I think a few of them speak for themselves such as a united Maghreb, and I could also see South Africa uniting their own region under their flag. Beyond that, as you say, it gets difficult.


Would it make since for colonies like Sierra Leone and cote d'ivoire to be reaquried by such countries as England and France to protect their spheres of influence?


No, the age of decolonization would not permit a single colony to remain in Africa. The countries that held onto their colonies fought expensive, horrific wars. (see: France and Portugal).
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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:18 pm

Which countries are available?
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Postby Bojikami » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:33 pm

Luziyca wrote:Well, Crimea would remain sovereign and not part of the Soviet sphere. Thus, it may as well be an outpost of freedom and democracy.

>Implying the soviets don't have democracy
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:34 pm

United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:Which countries are available?


Well, I'm not sure there are any left actually.
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Postby Bojikami » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:35 pm

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United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:Which countries are available?


Well, I'm not sure there are any left actually.

If he wants too, he could RP Chad when Italy releases it from its empire.
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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:38 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Well, I'm not sure there are any left actually.

If he wants too, he could RP Chad when Italy releases it from its empire.

Well once Chad is released, can someone tg me?
I'd also like to reserve Chad.
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:43 pm

Unicario wrote:
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
Would it make since for colonies like Sierra Leone and cote d'ivoire to be reaquried by such countries as England and France to protect their spheres of influence?


No, the age of decolonization would not permit a single colony to remain in Africa. The countries that held onto their colonies fought expensive, horrific wars. (see: France and Portugal).

What if it told you in this specific RP there is a very aggressive totalitarian Algerian Dictatoria Empire which could threaten the entire epicenter of Western Africa? Would that change the circumstances? Or would cote d'ivoire and those smaller nations still want to remain sovereign?

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Postby Unicario » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:48 pm

I think we should give the new guy Brazil.
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Postby Unicario » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:49 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
Unicario wrote:
No, the age of decolonization would not permit a single colony to remain in Africa. The countries that held onto their colonies fought expensive, horrific wars. (see: France and Portugal).

What if it told you in this specific RP there is a very aggressive totalitarian Algerian Dictatoria Empire which could threaten the entire epicenter of Western Africa? Would that change the circumstances? Or would cote d'ivoire and those smaller nations still want to remain sovereign?


Nope, European recolonization would be seen as inappropriate by pretty much everyone.
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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:53 pm

Unicario wrote:I think we should give the new guy Brazil.

I'll take that.
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Postby Unicario » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:55 pm

United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:
Unicario wrote:I think we should give the new guy Brazil.

I'll take that.


Hold on, mate. Gotta see if the OP and Vak are amendable to the idea. Also, there are a few strings attached, and such things.
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Postby Kargintina » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:56 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
Unicario wrote:
No, the age of decolonization would not permit a single colony to remain in Africa. The countries that held onto their colonies fought expensive, horrific wars. (see: France and Portugal).

What if it told you in this specific RP there is a very aggressive totalitarian Algerian Dictatoria Empire which could threaten the entire epicenter of Western Africa? Would that change the circumstances? Or would cote d'ivoire and those smaller nations still want to remain sovereign?

Well yes, I am planning on having FWA changing to an Algerian empire, but not aggressive or threatening West Africa

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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:57 pm

Unicario wrote:
United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:I'll take that.


Hold on, mate. Gotta see if the OP and Vak are amendable to the idea. Also, there are a few strings attached, and such things.

Yeah that's fine.
If Vak and the OP agree, could someone fill me in on the story so far?
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Postby Kargintina » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:59 pm

United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:
Unicario wrote:
Hold on, mate. Gotta see if the OP and Vak are amendable to the idea. Also, there are a few strings attached, and such things.

Yeah that's fine.
If Vak and the OP agree, could someone fill me in on the story so far?

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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:06 pm

Kargintina wrote:
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:What if it told you in this specific RP there is a very aggressive totalitarian Algerian Dictatoria Empire which could threaten the entire epicenter of Western Africa? Would that change the circumstances? Or would cote d'ivoire and those smaller nations still want to remain sovereign?

Well yes, I am planning on having FWA changing to an Algerian empire, but not aggressive or threatening West Africa


Alright. Obviously you didn't realize I'm talking abouts a self-RP. Not this one. Also I am not too amendable to the idea seeing as how at 1 this afternoon I was told I could have brazil and have spent considerable time thinking of my history and such, and future plans. As such, perhaps he could play Paraguay, if you uni are admissable to the idea of a paraguese revolution from the Inca.

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Postby Unicario » Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:16 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:... As such, perhaps he could play Paraguay, if you uni are admissable to the idea of a paraguese revolution from the Inca.


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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:40 pm

What happened with Korea? I don't remember. :p
But the new guys gonna have to find something else to RP. I really want brazil and I worked too damn hard building up my other nations to give him such as Afghanistan or Norway, Sweden, Spain, or Andalusia. Theres tons of colonies though. If he waits, in a few years ICl therell be plenty of revolution to go around.

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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:45 pm

Also uni, since my self-RP starts actually in a prelude to the Cold War circa 1933 and eventually goes through WWII, would it make any sense that afterwards many African countries gained independence and formed together into larger countries, but with Soviet threats directly after 1945, nations only like the Ivory Coast and Sierra Leone agreed to be Protetorates, but not actual colonies of the French and British?

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Postby Luziyca » Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:10 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:What happened with Korea? I don't remember. :p
But the new guys gonna have to find something else to RP. I really want brazil and I worked too damn hard building up my other nations to give him such as Afghanistan or Norway, Sweden, Spain, or Andalusia. Theres tons of colonies though. If he waits, in a few years ICl therell be plenty of revolution to go around.

You got more than enough countries. I have enough: Portugal, Crimea, and China, and I will have quite a bit more by the 1970s; Kenya, Kamuy-Mosir, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Madagascar, Maldives, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Xintudi.

It is best if Ayrshire takes Brazil.
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Postby Unicario » Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:26 pm

Japan, Rum, Arabia, Netherlands, Tawantisuyu, URCA.
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Postby Kargintina » Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:28 pm

Luziyca wrote:
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:What happened with Korea? I don't remember. :p
But the new guys gonna have to find something else to RP. I really want brazil and I worked too damn hard building up my other nations to give him such as Afghanistan or Norway, Sweden, Spain, or Andalusia. Theres tons of colonies though. If he waits, in a few years ICl therell be plenty of revolution to go around.

You got more than enough countries. I have enough: Portugal, Crimea, and China, and I will have quite a bit more by the 1970s; Kenya, Kamuy-Mosir, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Madagascar, Maldives, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Xintudi.

It is best if Ayrshire takes Brazil.

correction : WE will have Madagascar

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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:53 pm

Luziyca wrote:
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:What happened with Korea? I don't remember. :p
But the new guys gonna have to find something else to RP. I really want brazil and I worked too damn hard building up my other nations to give him such as Afghanistan or Norway, Sweden, Spain, or Andalusia. Theres tons of colonies though. If he waits, in a few years ICl therell be plenty of revolution to go around.

You got more than enough countries. I have enough: Portugal, Crimea, and China, and I will have quite a bit more by the 1970s; Kenya, Kamuy-Mosir, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Madagascar, Maldives, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Xintudi.

It is best if Ayrshire takes Brazil.


Exactly. Which is why I feel left out with only having a few countries. Its also proven that besides us, no one has the capacity to follows this RP for a long period of time, as they're not interested enough. Kargintia has been in it as France 3 times and has followed it for due time. And boji is a longterm kind of RPer but was just introduced to it in II. As such, since I did in fact take time to create all my nations including Brazil and had major plans in the future, I'm sure there is something else Ayrshire can take.

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Postby Kargintina » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:00 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:
Luziyca wrote:You got more than enough countries. I have enough: Portugal, Crimea, and China, and I will have quite a bit more by the 1970s; Kenya, Kamuy-Mosir, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Madagascar, Maldives, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Xintudi.

It is best if Ayrshire takes Brazil.


Exactly. Which is why I feel left out with only having a few countries. Its also proven that besides us, no one has the capacity to follows this RP for a long period of time, as they're not interested enough. Kargintia has been in it as France 3 times and has followed it for due time. And boji is a longterm kind of RPer but was just introduced to it in II. As such, since I did in fact take time to create all my nations including Brazil and had major plans in the future, I'm sure there is something else Ayrshire can take.

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Postby Luziyca » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:02 pm

Kargintina wrote:
Luziyca wrote:You got more than enough countries. I have enough: Portugal, Crimea, and China, and I will have quite a bit more by the 1970s; Kenya, Kamuy-Mosir, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Madagascar, Maldives, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Xintudi.

It is best if Ayrshire takes Brazil.

correction : WE will have Madagascar

Alright.

However, I plan that Chinese will be a majority in OTL Antsiranana Province, Mahajanga Province, and Toamasina Province, a plurality in Antananarivo Provincce and Fianarantsoa Province, and Francophones a majority in Toliara Province.

I think that after 1956, you can RP the Francophones and the Provincial government of Toliara Province, while I RP the rest of the provinces of Madagascar, plus Parliament (though I plan that a not!Parti Quebecois/Bloc Quebecois would start gaining seats in the early 1980s, becoming Official Opposition in 1992 which you can RP). The 1980 referendum on Toliaran secession fails, but the 1995 will be up to you.
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