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Yuri Gagarin, Neil Armstrong and Ranko Yamato, the first people on the moon, in 1969. :D

No. Yuri Gagarin is first in space, Gherman Titov the first to spend more than 24 hours(for Russia at least), Aleksey Leonov is first for extravehicular activity(for Russia at least), Valentina Tereshkova is the first woman. Sputnik is the first satellite; Laika is the first animal; Belka and Strelka the first animals to return. The Russian sent to the moon for the CS-Russia-Japan would be Svetlana Savitskaya. Neil Armstrong will be the first to set foot on lunar soil.

This brings up a question: would all the lunar landing missions be joint missions, or just the first? Would latter missions be run by individual countries?


Japan would send it's first cosmonaut into space in the early 1960s, and Japan would choose a woman, who were the most numerous in Indonesian War-era reserve pilots (Women have been allowed to join Japanese armed forces since the 1830s, and this was later confirmed as sovereign law in 1936 when women joined citizen militias against the Tojoists) -- that's the problem though, you are entitled to the "first woman in space" but Japan's male astronauts wouldn't really start up until 1968, due to the Indonesian War's necessities for mostly men to go off and die for freedom, leaving the majority of the "space-faring" population to be people with ovaries. All Japanese astronauts/cosmonauts from first launch in 1961 (after Gagarin but before Shepard) to Apollo 11 were women. After the end of the Indonesian War and the "re-adjustment" from 1967 to 1970, Japanese males, specifically, veterans of the Air Force, began to join the ranks of the cosmonauts. :P

Yuri Gagarin: Entered space on April 12, 1961
Hoshi Matsuri: Entered space on May 1, 1961
Alan Shepard: Entered space on May 5, 1961

(Shepard and Matsuri would go on to be the first cosmonauts to participate in the Pearl Harbor Program, a joint Confederate-Japanese space exploration program, which was piloted primarily for the Mercury and Apollo program, to reap the scientific rewards of two nations cooperating to reach the stars. Piloted under the leadership of Kim Il-sung and John F. Kennedy. The program experienced delays due to war between 1963 and 1967 as the CSA and Japan waged an all-out war against Indonesia, however, the program remained on track as funding remained flowing into the program, leading to the Apollo launches between 1968 and 1969 -- culminating in the Russo-Confederate-Japanese lunar landing in July 1969 where Neil Armstrong became the first human to walk on the moon, followed behind by Ranko Yamato, daughter of Emperor Alexander II, and sister of Empress Akane, and the Russian guy.)

As for the lunar missions, I imagine all missions up to Apollo 11 are "joint", then Russia drops out and Japan and the CSA are launching both independent and joint missions well into the 1970s and 1980s. Japan would be aiming primarily at getting the technology for lunar landings squared away as so to make that an easy feat of science, before trying manned landings on Mars by 2020. :P
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Unicario wrote:
Ruridova wrote:No. Yuri Gagarin is first in space, Gherman Titov the first to spend more than 24 hours(for Russia at least), Aleksey Leonov is first for extravehicular activity(for Russia at least), Valentina Tereshkova is the first woman. Sputnik is the first satellite; Laika is the first animal; Belka and Strelka the first animals to return. The Russian sent to the moon for the CS-Russia-Japan would be Svetlana Savitskaya. Neil Armstrong will be the first to set foot on lunar soil.

This brings up a question: would all the lunar landing missions be joint missions, or just the first? Would latter missions be run by individual countries?


Japan would send it's first cosmonaut into space in the early 1960s, and Japan would choose a woman, who were the most numerous in Indonesian War-era pilots -- that's the problem though, you are entitled to the "first woman in space" but Japan's male astronauts wouldn't really start up until 1968, due to the Indonesian War's necessities for mostly men to go off and die for freedom. >>

If Japan sends its first astronauts up after June 1963, there won't be a problem.
As for the lunar missions, I imagine all missions up to Apollo 11 are "joint", then Russia drops out and Japan and the CSA are launching both independent and joint missions well into the 1970s and 1980s. Japan would be aiming primarily at getting the technology for lunar landings squared away as so to make that an easy feat of science, before trying manned landings on Mars by 2020. :P

Russia and later the EAU will focus more on earth orbit, extended exposure, microgravity science, and so forth. The CSA is going to have the space shuttle, and after that Confederate space exploration is going to be increasingly rover-centric or privately funded.
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Postby Unicario » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:07 am

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Japan would send it's first cosmonaut into space in the early 1960s, and Japan would choose a woman, who were the most numerous in Indonesian War-era pilots -- that's the problem though, you are entitled to the "first woman in space" but Japan's male astronauts wouldn't really start up until 1968, due to the Indonesian War's necessities for mostly men to go off and die for freedom. >>

If Japan sends its first astronauts up after June 1963, there won't be a problem.
As for the lunar missions, I imagine all missions up to Apollo 11 are "joint", then Russia drops out and Japan and the CSA are launching both independent and joint missions well into the 1970s and 1980s. Japan would be aiming primarily at getting the technology for lunar landings squared away as so to make that an easy feat of science, before trying manned landings on Mars by 2020. :P

Russia and later the EAU will focus more on earth orbit, extended exposure, microgravity science, and so forth. The CSA is going to have the space shuttle, and after that Confederate space exploration is going to be increasingly rover-centric or privately funded.


Japan wouldn't want to be that late to the space-faring game though. The first Japanese person in space will be a man then, just so I can squeeze ahead. >>
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Postby Ruridova » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:09 am

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Ruridova wrote:If Japan sends its first astronauts up after June 1963, there won't be a problem.

Russia and later the EAU will focus more on earth orbit, extended exposure, microgravity science, and so forth. The CSA is going to have the space shuttle, and after that Confederate space exploration is going to be increasingly rover-centric or privately funded.


Japan wouldn't want to be that late to the space-faring game though. The first Japanese person in space will be a man then, just so I can squeeze ahead. >>

The earliest I can push back Tereshkova's launch would be August 1962 on Vostok 3.
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Postby Unicario » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:11 am

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Japan wouldn't want to be that late to the space-faring game though. The first Japanese person in space will be a man then, just so I can squeeze ahead. >>

The earliest I can push back Tereshkova's launch would be August 1962 on Vostok 3.


Launch it whenever you like, I'm having Japan rocket a man into space, then a woman following Tereshkova.
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RUSSIAN SPACE PROGRAM
Notable Missions/Craft
Sputnik 1 - unmanned - first satellite
Sputnik 2 - 1, Laika - first animal
Sputnik 5 - 2, Belka and Strelka
Vostok 1 - 1, Yuri Gagarin - first human
Vostok 2 - 1, Gherman Titov - first human in space for 24 hours
Vostok 3 - 1, Valentina Tereshkova - first woman
Voskhod 2 - 2, Pavel Belyayev/Aleksey Leonov - first EVA
Soyuz 1 - 1, Vladimir Komarov - first space flight fatality
Salyut 1 - 3, multiple crews - first inhabited space station
Mir - 3, multiple crews - first space station assembled in orbit

CONFEDERATE SPACE PROGRAM
Notable Missions/Craft
Mercury 3/Freedom 7 - 1, Alan Shepard - first Confederate in space
Mercury 6/Friendship 7 - 1, John Glenn - first man to orbit
Gemini 4 - 2, James McDivitt/Edward White - first Confederate EVA
Gemini 6 and Gemini 7 - 4, Walter Schirra/Thomas Stafford/Frank Borman/James Lovell - first rendezvous in space
Apollo 1 - 3, Virgil Grissom/Edward White/Roger Chaffee - first Confederate deaths in Space Race
Apollo 8 - 3, Frank Borman/James Lovell/William Anders - first to orbit moon
Apollo 13 - 3, James Lovell/John Swigert/Fred Haise - close call in selenocentric orbit
Skylab - 3, multiple crews - first Confederate space station
Challenger, STS-7 - 5, Robert Crippen/Frederick Hauck/John Fabian/Sally Ride/Norman Thagard - first Confederate woman in space
Challenger, STS-51-L - 7, Francis Scobee/Michael Smith/Ellison Onizuka/Judith Resnik/Ronald McNair/Gregory Jarvis/Christa McAuliffe - first deaths in space shuttle program
Columbia, STS-107 - 7, Rick Husband/William McCool/David Brown/Kalpana Chawla/Michael Anderson/Laurel Clark/Ilan Ramon - final deaths in space shuttle program
Atlantis, STS-135 - 4, Christopher Ferguson/Douglas Hurley/Sandra Magnus/Rex Walheim - final space shuttle mission
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:47 am

The only countries that will have space programs for me will be Norway which will be major because they're going to stay a power until the 21st century. And possibly Spain.

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Postby Unicario » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:52 am

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:The only countries that will have space programs for me will be Norway which will be major because they're going to stay a power until the 21st century. And possibly Spain.


...So how exactly do you propose independently funding these programs?
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Postby Ruridova » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:10 am

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The Vaktovian Empire wrote:The only countries that will have space programs for me will be Norway which will be major because they're going to stay a power until the 21st century. And possibly Spain.


...So how exactly do you propose independently funding these programs?

I could see Spain having a program, or Brazil, but Norway? No.
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:26 pm

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...So how exactly do you propose independently funding these programs?

I could see Spain having a program, or Brazil, but Norway? No.


Not individually. I was thinking that Britain would lead a united EAU space programme.
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Postby Ruridova » Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:27 pm

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Ruridova wrote:I could see Spain having a program, or Brazil, but Norway? No.


Not individually. I was thinking that Britain would lead a united EAU space programme.

Russia would have had a space program long before Great Britain.

And Spain, France, and Norway aren't EAU members.
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:20 pm

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...So how exactly do you propose independently funding these programs?

I could see Spain having a program, or Brazil, but Norway? No.


For me, my three richest countries in order are Spain, Brazil and Norway. While Norway isn't as rich as the other two, its still a powerhouse and can still produce quickly like with Benson's new models of Germany's original car. So I could deal with it not having a program if its agreed Norway is currently much richer than it is OTL and will be much richer ATL in the 21st than the real Norway.

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Postby Unicario » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:54 pm

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Ruridova wrote:I could see Spain having a program, or Brazil, but Norway? No.


For me, my three richest countries in order are Spain, Brazil and Norway. While Norway isn't as rich as the other two, its still a powerhouse and can still produce quickly like with Benson's new models of Germany's original car. So I could deal with it not having a program if its agreed Norway is currently much richer than it is OTL and will be much richer ATL in the 21st than the real Norway.


It still doesn't change that you are only Norway, and Norway has a cap on how rich it can be... Norway has no means of really producing the means of launching space craft regularly like Japan, CSA or Russia (all of whom have nearly endless resources at their disposal) -- With the EASA (Eurasian Space Agency) in place, you'd get European cooperation with space, especially with the boost of the Russians, but it'd mostly just be a Russian-dominated space program to counter the Pan-Pacific Space Cooperation (CSA-Japan-China)
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Postby Ruridova » Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:09 pm

Unicario wrote:
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For me, my three richest countries in order are Spain, Brazil and Norway. While Norway isn't as rich as the other two, its still a powerhouse and can still produce quickly like with Benson's new models of Germany's original car. So I could deal with it not having a program if its agreed Norway is currently much richer than it is OTL and will be much richer ATL in the 21st than the real Norway.


It still doesn't change that you are only Norway, and Norway has a cap on how rich it can be... Norway has no means of really producing the means of launching space craft regularly like Japan, CSA or Russia (all of whom have nearly endless resources at their disposal) -- With the EASA (Eurasian Space Agency) in place, you'd get European cooperation with space, especially with the boost of the Russians, but it'd mostly just be a Russian-dominated space program to counter the Pan-Pacific Space Cooperation (CSA-Japan-China)

Britain, the USSR, and(after September of this year) Germany would also be powerful in the EASA. NASA is going to suffer its OTL budget cuts, meaning that in the CSA private companies are going to start filling a larger role.

And Norway is not going to have the capability to launch a rocket regardless. Brazil? Yes. France or Spain? Maybe. Norway? No way.
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Postby Unicario » Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:42 pm

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It still doesn't change that you are only Norway, and Norway has a cap on how rich it can be... Norway has no means of really producing the means of launching space craft regularly like Japan, CSA or Russia (all of whom have nearly endless resources at their disposal) -- With the EASA (Eurasian Space Agency) in place, you'd get European cooperation with space, especially with the boost of the Russians, but it'd mostly just be a Russian-dominated space program to counter the Pan-Pacific Space Cooperation (CSA-Japan-China)

Britain, the USSR, and(after September of this year) Germany would also be powerful in the EASA. NASA is going to suffer its OTL budget cuts, meaning that in the CSA private companies are going to start filling a larger role.

And Norway is not going to have the capability to launch a rocket regardless. Brazil? Yes. France or Spain? Maybe. Norway? No way.


That's fine, the JSA would remain government funded, but private corporations are starting to test the waters with space exploration. Ashikaga Industries plans to launch it's own private space craft in 2015. :P
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Postby Bojikami » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:03 pm

The USSR will have a space program, as will Italy.

As for the rest of my countries, I don't really think it's realistic for Iran, Venezuela, Nigeria, Chad or Switzerland to have space programs. Though Nigeria probably will propose a unified African space program.
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Postby Unicario » Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:27 pm

Of my countries, Japan and Rum will have space programs. The Netherlands might, I'm not 100% on it yet.
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Of my countries, China will definitely have a space program.

Portugal may have a historic "space program," which was more like a few launches from 1964-1966, with only one succeeding in 1966, and even that satellite was spinning uncontrollably and didn't really work at all in its intended role, with no launches after that one because rebels captured the main launch site(near OTL Bouarfa, or as known from 1935 to 1974, Cidade de Areia) in 1967 (at Areia Space Center, or Areia Centro Espacial in Portuguese) as they prepared for another satellite launch. Portugal would respond by bombing the Areia Space Center and begin building one in the Azores, which never was completed because Carnation Revolution.

The Areia Nova Space Center (Nova Areia Centro Espacial) would probably be sold to NASA in 1975 following independence of the Azores, with the offer to be used as a backup to Cape Canaveral. In contrast, the Areia Space Center in Bouarfa has not been restored, having been destroyed by the Portuguese Air Force. Wartime damage will stand in the Areia Space Center, and is basically abandoned to its fate. Over the years, looters have taken most of the surviving equipment in the Space Center in Morocco, and today, only those that were bolted to the ground or otherwise attached by hard to deatch means remain in the interior, while the launch pads are basically damaged, with hulks of the support structures standing.
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Postby Unicario » Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:21 pm

Tawantinsuyu would definitely have a space program, and try to launch into space -- URCA would try a little bit. It's a much more stable place than OTL Central America -- no banana republics, drug wars, etc.
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NORD-NEUGUINEER WELLE NEWS-in-BRIEF September 5, 2014
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EAU LIGHTNING INVASION, DOMESTIC TURMOIL, INTERNATIONAL SANCTIONS FORCE GERMAN SURRENDER
The Holy Roman Empire conceded to recognizing Czechoslovakia, ending suzerainty over Hungary and Denmark and allowing a referendum in Schleswig-Holstein to be held on the 10th, ending the Crisis of 2014, after domestic unrest and international opposition reached a breaking point. The move came after Danish, Czechoslovak, and Hungarian forces pushed deep into Germany in a form of lightning warfare, seizing Munich, Dresden, Liepzig, Breslau, Hamburg, Bremen, and Salzburg before the German surrender. Germany also faced growing domestic opposition from strikers and protestors, and international sanctions that had left much of the country in a state of humanitarian crisis. Following the announcement, the EAU and OAS immediately dropped all sanctions, with the Asian Union expected to follow shortly. In addition, Czechoslovaks and Germans have begun tearing down the final standing sections of the Iron Curtain, beginning in Kittsee(where CS President Ronald Reagan delivered his famous "tear down this wall" challenge). The EAU also proposed German membership in the EAU as a way of burying the hatchet between Germany and the rest of Europe, to which Germany has not yet formally responded.
WITH REFERENDUM APPROACHING, POLLS SHOW SCOTS NARROWLY GOING FOR INDEPENDENCE
A poll conducted on Scottish independence has come to the conclusion that, with only days left in the campaign, a narrow majority of Scots support the region's separation from the United Kingdom. Scottish voters will determine Scotland's fate this month, and have two choices: to stay with Britain, or become an independent country. The poll- which showed 51% of Scots voting in favor of independence- has sent shockwaves through the Yes for Scotland and Better Together campaigns both. An independent Scotland would likely continue using the British pound, would keep Elizabeth II Windsor as monarch, and would be an automatic member of the Eurasian Union. Supporters of Scottish independence say an independent Scotland would be run better and would be able to determine its own fate; opponents say it would harm Scotland's economy and do little good. The referendum will be held on the 18th.
VUDUN MILITIAS SEIZE LAKE VOLTA, PUSHING VOLTAN ARMY BACK TO IVORY COAST
Animist Vudun militias have sent Voltan government forces fleeing from Lake Volta, seizing the country's main water and power supply today. The Vudun militias are among the many militias that have rises in the Volta since the government was driven from Accra by Christian terror groups. Vudun, a native religion that inspired Hispaniolan and Louisianan Voodoo, is focused around the worship of spirits who do the will of an unreachable creator god, and has largely survived incursions and conquest by Muslims from the north and Christians from the south. The Voltan government has lost control of most of the country, which is likely to become a failed state by month's end.
JIAOZHOUAN LEGISLATURE PASSES SYMBOLIC REAFFIRMATION OF AUTONOMY WITHIN GERMANY
The People's Assembly of the Jiaozhou Mandate passed a 'General Reaffirmation of Jiaozhouan Autonomy Within and Unity With the Holy Roman Empire' 209-to-1, a sign of continued defiance towards China in spite of a Chinese 'quarantine' and an attempt by Chinese intelligence forces to lead a coup on the island thwarted by the Mandate Police. The bill still has to be signed by Governor Ruprecht Tsang, who has expressed support for the bill and opposition to China on numerous occasions. Support for the bill transcended political lines, with almost the entirety of Jiaozhou's 210-man legislature voting in favor. The one vote in opposition was made by Stephan Chao, the sole representative of the single-issue Chinese Union Party, which advocates union with China and separation from Germany. News of the bill's passage brought little reaction in Jiaozhou, where opposition to Chinese imperialism is intense and where there was no doubt that the bill would pass. China has not officially responded to the bill, nor has it dropped sanctions against the Mandate or responded to the capture of several Chinese intelligence agents and their charges of high treason.
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QUARANTINE LIFTED
With news from Berlin regarding the recognition of Czechoslovakia, and ending their domination of Denmark and Hungary, PM Elbegdorj formally lifted the quarantine against Jiaozhou, and the ships blockading the German-occupied territory have been returned to their home ports. Border crossings have been reopened and air travel to and from the city has been permitted again. Many Chinese believe that the blockade of Jiaozhou was the straw that broke Germany's back and forced it to concede to Czechoslovakia, and many Chinese celebrated.

However, Elbegdorj feels that despite the lifting of the quarantine, he states that "China has a greater legitimacy to the Jiazhou region than Germany: we may have sold it to Germany, but in this day and age, colonization by European states who do not identify themselves as Asian (i.e. by non-Asian Union members) is unacceptable. Jiazhou and China have a common historic culture, a common language, common beliefs, identities, and traditions. Most importantly though, it is geographically part of China, and Asia."

Elbegdorj explains that "Their only links to Germany are German loan words, their own mark, which contrary to popular belief do not result in them making their mark upon the world, German administrative structures, and a German minority who have carried many German traditions. But they are culturally, geographically, and historically part of China, and as such, it is an integral part of China. It is as integral to this nation as Shanghai, as integral as Lhasa, as integral as Karakorum and Urumqi, and I personally feel it is the duty of all Chinese people to ensure that one day, Jiaozhou is free from German occupation."

When asked if Germany will ever return Jiaozhou, Elbegdorj replies, "It is unlikely that they will willingly return Jiaozhou to China. It took them over a century to recognize Czechoslovak independence, so it is not unreasonable why Germany will refuse to let go of this colony. While we'll lift sanctions over Germany, we must reaffirm that Jiaozhou is Chinese, and no matter which flag flutters above it, it is part of China."

In Parliament today, speaker Jiang Mianheng announced "We, the Cabinet have reviewed the bill passed by the City Council of Qingdao wishing to affirm it's so-called 'autonomy' under illegal German occupation, and condemn the legislation passed in the City Council for attempting to chip away at their traditional ties with Beijing. Thus, we urge Mayor Zeng (Tsang) Ruprecht to not sign this legislation." Jiang Mianheng also requested "the return of patriotic Chinese who were falsely accused of attempting to overthrow the German authorities in Qingdao back to Chinese soil." The governing Reform Party and opposition Conservatives led by Ma Yingjiu supported the announcement by Mianheng and applauded at its conclusion, while the official opposition Socialist Party opposed the policies, with the leader, Wu Ciju arguing that "It is unnecessary to antagonize a nation which has significant influence in Europe, and that with Germany potentially joining the Eurasian Union, it will be deadly and detrimental to try and retake Jiaozhou."

In Tibet, support for independence has fallen considerably to 20%, the status quo has risen to 75% and the undecided has also fallen to 5%, mainly due to the quarantine on Jiaozhou, and the approval rating for Elbegdorj has risen from 62% at the start of the crisis to 93% today.
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Dividing American TV comedy:
Canada gets the Simpsons, Futurama, Family Guy, and American Dad because Matt Groening is from Oregon and Seth MacFarlane is from Connecticut.
The CSA gets South Park, because Matt Parker is from Colorado and Trey Stone is from Texas.

Canada gets Jon Stewart, Jay Leno, Jimmy Fallon, Conan O'Brien, and Jimmy Kimmel.
The CSA gets Stephen Colbert, David Letterman, and Seth Meyers.
The UK gets John Oliver.
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Postby Luziyca » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:53 pm

Ruridova wrote:Dividing American TV comedy:
Canada gets the Simpsons, Futurama, Family Guy, and American Dad because Matt Groening is from Oregon and Seth MacFarlane is from Connecticut.
The CSA gets South Park, because Matt Parker is from Colorado and Trey Stone is from Texas.

Canada gets Jon Stewart, Jay Leno, Jimmy Fallon, Conan O'Brien, and Jimmy Kimmel.
The CSA gets Stephen Colbert, David Letterman, and Seth Meyers.
The UK gets John Oliver.

Would Canada get Jeopardy?
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Postby Ruridova » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:06 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Dividing American TV comedy:
Canada gets the Simpsons, Futurama, Family Guy, and American Dad because Matt Groening is from Oregon and Seth MacFarlane is from Connecticut.
The CSA gets South Park, because Matt Parker is from Colorado and Trey Stone is from Texas.

Canada gets Jon Stewart, Jay Leno, Jimmy Fallon, Conan O'Brien, and Jimmy Kimmel.
The CSA gets Stephen Colbert, David Letterman, and Seth Meyers.
The UK gets John Oliver.

Would Canada get Jeopardy?

No. The concept of the show was made by a Californian.
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Postby Luziyca » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:10 pm

Ruridova wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Would Canada get Jeopardy?

No. The concept of the show was made by a Californian.

That's a good point.
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