AWWA Part III-The Great War(OOC-Now Closed)

[Unicario]

I never said that Asia for Asians didn't mean subservience to Japan or China. We just want Europeans to GTFO.

Smaller states are almost always leaning towards or in the sphere of another country, OTL and ATL. A "Europe out of Asia" policy(no matter how riddled with exceptions) means that European colonies would be released and sphered nations of European countries released. By simple geographic proximity, they would either wind up in the territory or sphere of control of China(like ATL Tibet, Turkestan, Central Asia, and Mongolia) or Japan(like ATL Korea, Taiwan, the Philippines, Indochina, and Thailand). It's happening in Europe and the Americas too; the Slavic sphere(before the 1990s divided into the Russian, Ukrainian, and Yugoslav spheres), German sphere, Dutch sphere, British sphere, communist sphere, Confederate sphere, Tawantisuyu sphere. "Europe out of Asia", because it puts that land up for grabs by Japan, seems of dubious legitimacy. Akin to Canada's "CSA out of the Three Mexican States" or even the EAU's "Germany out of Central Europe". There may be legitimate humanitarian reasons for saying it, but is that really why you're saying it?

Japan doesn't want to conquer them, no, they just want to exert economic hegemony. I'm taking your whole "NO GEACPS!" thing and turning into Japan simply being the superpower that watches over the smaller states.

[The Vaktovian Empire]

France will let you stop in Seychelles friend, for a price of course.

IIRC, I thought the Seychelles were British.

The map needsto be updated. Seychelles isn't even on it. Was it retconned like Maldives?

[Ruridova]

Foreign confrontations(diplomatic and military) with ATL Japan, in Polandball

Balls from L to R: Jiaozhou, Germany, China, UK, Confederacy, Japan
Jiaozhou has spraypainted "Jiaozhou is German, not Asian" in German, and is still holding the can. He also is wearing a pickelhaube.
Germany is the Reichtangle. 'Nuff said.
China has a pair of notifications from Europa Universalis 4 above its head, in reference to the common sticking points between the two countries.
Britain holds a poster urging Britons to vote for Margaret Thatcher, loved in Britain but despised in Japan.
America has a little zeppelin balloon, in reference to Minatushinjo/Pearl Harbor. And sunglasses, of course.
Japan has a traditional kabuto helmet and a katana, and is talking about bringing honor to his family.

[Unicario]

Foreign confrontations(diplomatic and military) with ATL Japan, in Polandball

Results:

Germany: Japan decides to remain silent on the Qingdao issue, since Japan is doing the same thing to Hong Kong in 2014.
China: Southern China was rapidly and brutally occupied, and China was humiliated -- and the first to surrender.
Thatcherite Britain: No military action, but a rupture in the Anglo-Japanese alliance that is only kept alive because of the Windsors being the British royals.
CSA: We bombed San Diego and caused devastation all over the Western Coast. >>

Also: Japan doesn't have the slant eyes/"herro prease" thing. Too much British blood and language intermixing with Japanese.

[Ruridova]

Foreign confrontations(diplomatic and military) with ATL Japan, in Polandball

Results:

Germany: Japan decides to remain silent on the Qingdao issue, since Japan is doing the same thing to Hong Kong in 2014.
China: Southern China was rapidly and brutally occupied, and China was humiliated -- and the first to surrender.
Thatcherite Britain: No military action, but a rupture in the Anglo-Japanese alliance that is only kept alive because of the Windsors being the British royals.
CSA: We bombed San Diego and caused devastation all over the Western Coast. >>

The earthquake was coincidental. The bombing was your fault.

Also: Japan doesn't have the slant eyes/"herro prease" thing. Too much British blood and language intermixing with Japanese.

It's mostly to emphasize the separation between China/Japan and Jiaozhou(which does not have the slant eyes and is writing in German).

[Unicario]

Results:

Germany: Japan decides to remain silent on the Qingdao issue, since Japan is doing the same thing to Hong Kong in 2014.
China: Southern China was rapidly and brutally occupied, and China was humiliated -- and the first to surrender.
Thatcherite Britain: No military action, but a rupture in the Anglo-Japanese alliance that is only kept alive because of the Windsors being the British royals.
CSA: We bombed San Diego and caused devastation all over the Western Coast. >>

The earthquake was coincidental. The bombing was your fault.

Also: Japan doesn't have the slant eyes/"herro prease" thing. Too much British blood and language intermixing with Japanese.

It's mostly to emphasize the separation between China/Japan and Jiaozhou(which does not have the slant eyes and is writing in German).

[Ruridova]

NORD-NEUGUINEER WELLE NEWS-in-BRIEF September 5, 2014
Deutsch - Tok Pisin - English - other

GERMAN AIRLINES STRIKE TO DEMAND WAR'S END, ABRUPTLY END PRUSSIAN AIRLIFT
In the latest blow to Germany in the Crisis of 2014, Lufthansa, Germanwings, and several flight unions(including those for pilots, mechanics, ground crew, air traffic controllers, and stewards) announced a massive strike that has effectively shut down German air transport- including the Prussian Airlift, Germany's attempt to ferry supplies to the region of Prussia, which has been devastated by EAU sanctions and blockades. The massive strike is being led to demand that Germany end the Crisis, even if it means recognizing Czechoslovakia. Germany, however, remains defiant, saying that the Luftwaffe would replace Lufthansa as the group carrying out the airlift. Germany has also threatened to fire en masse any workers for the government who go on strike.
BALTIC UNION CLAIMS THAT GERMANY HAS ABDUCTED A BALTIC POLICEMAN
Baltic Foreign Minister Urmas Paet has accused Germany of kidnapping a Baltic border guard near the German city of Memel, saying that the incident- in which a Baltic border guard disappeared, with signs of a scuffle on the border- is "highly disturbing". The Baltic Union also claims that Germany scrambled Baltic radio transmissions and used smoke grenades. Germany admitted to capturing a Baltic border guard, but says that he was in Memel and armed with eavesdropping and cypher-breaking devices, accusing the Baltic Union of using the agent to try and spy on Germany. The Baltic Union, however, says that the agent in question was involved with ending illegal smuggling and cross-border crime. The EAU has demanded that Germany return the kidnapped official; Germany has refused.
MIGRANTS IN KALES STAGE RIGHTS PROTEST FOLLOWING DUTCH CALL FOR UK ACTION
Migrants in the Dutch city of Kales have accused the government of the Low Countries of ignoring human rights and mistreating immigrants and migrants. The protests come after the mayor of Kales, Natascha van Oostende, threatened to blockade the city's port unless the UK took further action to prevent migrants using the city as a way to get to Great Britain. A majority of the migrants are fleeing religious or ethnic violence in Africa, that they are disappointed by what they perceive to be a lack of civil rights in Europe, and that they have nowhere else to go. The government views them as criminals and as a threat to public security, creating the tension. While it presently seems unlikely that Kales will join Ferguson, the issue is not likely to be easily solved.
CAUCASIA WILL RETURN RUSSIAN MAN, STATE MEDIA CLAIMS
Caucasia's government has said that it will return a Russian man who illegally entered the pariah state, the country's state media claims. The man was detained roughly a year ago along the border near the Black Sea, and has been held since. The move comes only days after Caucasia brutally executed a captured Confederate journalist attempting to document everyday life in the hellish dictatorship. Caucasia, ruled by the dictatorial Svanidze family since the 1800s, has become increasingly isolated, but incredibly defiant and utterly ruthless. Russia and Caucasia have agreed on a location(secret for now) and a date(September 11).
KILAUEA LAVA FLOWS NOW THREATENING TOWNS IN HAWAII, STATE GOV'T WARNS
A state of emergency has been declared on the Big Island of Hawai'i after lava flows from the Kilauea volcano began moving dangerously close to settlements and highways, with the state government urging those in affected areas to evacuate on certain roads to avoid lava flows. Kilauea has been erupting continuously since 1983, but generally does not threaten cities or towns on the island. However, a new vent that opened this June has been sending out lava at a rapid pace, with the molten rock estimated to reach the town of Kahoe in a week. Many native Hawaiians- the Polynesians who inhabited the islands for centuries- still view the volcano in the form of the volcanic goddess Pele. The other Hawaiian islands- including the 'Forbidden Island' of Niihau, largely run by Tsunamitsu Melemuali Takahashi, who claims the Japanese shogunate- have begun preparing to receive those fleeing Kilauea.
50 DEAD AFTER BOMBS DETONATE IN TEMPORARY VOLTAN CAPITAL
Several dozen Voltans are dead after a series of IEDs detonated in the interim capital of Abidschan. Abidschan is serving as the country's capital following the seizure of Accra by radical Christian militias who have made large gains in the south of the wartorn African country. No group has yet claimed the attacks as theirs, however it is suspected that the same militias that captured Accra are responsible for the bombings in Abidschan. The Volta's Christian south, Muslim north, and animist middle have long feuded, and the feuds have long been compounded by ethnic rivalry and ideological combat. The Volta has sworn to crush the various militias plaguing the country, but the Volta seems more and more like a failed state. At present, Voltan forces have lost control of most of the Gold Coast, as well as Burkina and eastern Mali. They retain the Ivory Coast, Lake Volta, and western Mali.

[Luziyca]

XINHUA
English - Chinese - Tibetan - Mongolian - Manchu - Uighur - Russian - Japanese - Korean - Kazakh - Kygryz

PM ELBEGDORJ TO IMPOSE 'QUARANTINE' ON JIAOZHOU
With protests increasing within China demanding that Jiaozhou be returned to China, Parliament had voted 288-179 to implement a "quarantine" on Jiaozhou. The quarantine will mean that all land borders with Jiaozhou are to be shut down, ships to block access to the bay by ship, and a ban on using Chinese airspace for all flights to and from Jiaozhou, excluding flights to take foreigners out. This measure will be temporary, expiring "when a ceasefire or recognition of Czechoslovak sovereignty by Germany and the return of Vienna by the Czechoslovak authorities," but the intent is to cripple Jiaozhou and pressure the Germans into a ceasefire in Europe.

TIBETAN SOVEREIGNTY REFERENDUM APPROACHING
On Sept. 20, 2014, about five million inhabitants of the Tibetan Autonomous Community will cast their votes to decide on the future of the Tibetan Autonomous Community. Lonsang Jamcan, the Executive of the Autonomous Community decided on the date a few months ago, and the campaigns have been gearing up. The question is as follows: "Should Tibet be a sovereign country?" If 60% or more of the votes is passed, the Autonomous Community will enter negotiations with Beijing, either to greatly expand its autonomy to powers like Madagascar between 1956 and 1982, or Kenya between 1960 and 1981, or to be a fully sovereign state as part of the Chinese Commonwealth. Current opinion polls have 49% lean towards independence, 35% leaning towards the status quo, and 16% undecided.

[Ruridova]

Minor OTL-ATL difference: in the OTL video for Rammstein's Amerika, the lead singer's astronaut suit is labelled "Armstrong"- a reference to astronaut Neil Armstrong. However, in the ATL Rammstein song Eurasia, he'd have to find someone from an EAU nation of similar prominence, meaning that his cosmonaut suit in the ATL video would probably read "Gagarin", a reference to the Russian cosmonaut and first human in space.

[Luziyca]

Minor OTL-ATL difference: in the OTL video for Rammstein's Amerika, the lead singer's astronaut suit is labelled "Armstrong"- a reference to astronaut Neil Armstrong. However, in the ATL Rammstein song Eurasia, he'd have to find someone from an EAU nation of similar prominence, meaning that his cosmonaut suit in the ATL video would probably read "Gagarin", a reference to the Russian cosmonaut and first human in space.

Interesting.

[Ruridova]

Minor OTL-ATL difference: in the OTL video for Rammstein's Amerika, the lead singer's astronaut suit is labelled "Armstrong"- a reference to astronaut Neil Armstrong. However, in the ATL Rammstein song Eurasia, he'd have to find someone from an EAU nation of similar prominence, meaning that his cosmonaut suit in the ATL video would probably read "Gagarin", a reference to the Russian cosmonaut and first human in space.

Interesting.

In addition, the Gagarins will likely be made into landed nobles after Yuri Gagarin's flight, though ultimately they would support the revolution in the 1990s.

[Luziyca]

Interesting.

In addition, the Gagarins will likely be made into landed nobles after Yuri Gagarin's flight, though ultimately they would support the revolution in the 1990s.

Why would they support the revolutionaries against the Tsar?

[Ruridova]

In addition, the Gagarins will likely be made into landed nobles after Yuri Gagarin's flight, though ultimately they would support the revolution in the 1990s.

Why would they support the revolutionaries against the Tsar?

Gagarin was born to a poorer family in a small village, not to a longstanding noble family. The Gagarins would have far more recent memories of what it was like to live as an average Russian, and would be liberal by royal standards. In addition, Gagarin would advocate more power to the (rubberstamp) Duma and less to the Tsar, as he believed that a common man(like himself) could succeed if not kept down by autocrats. The Gagarins would find the Republicans closer to their ideals.

[Luziyca]

Why would they support the revolutionaries against the Tsar?

Gagarin was born to a poorer family in a small village, not to a longstanding noble family. The Gagarins would have far more recent memories of what it was like to live as an average Russian, and would be liberal by royal standards. In addition, Gagarin would advocate more power to the (rubberstamp) Duma and less to the Tsar, as he believed that a common man(like himself) could succeed if not kept down by autocrats. The Gagarins would find the Republicans closer to their ideals.

So anyways, how would be ATL Russia and Alaska compare to each other?

[Unicario]

Minor OTL-ATL difference: in the OTL video for Rammstein's Amerika, the lead singer's astronaut suit is labelled "Armstrong"- a reference to astronaut Neil Armstrong. However, in the ATL Rammstein song Eurasia, he'd have to find someone from an EAU nation of similar prominence, meaning that his cosmonaut suit in the ATL video would probably read "Gagarin", a reference to the Russian cosmonaut and first human in space.

Yuri Gagarin, Neil Armstrong and Ranko Yamato, the first people on the moon, in 1969.

[Ruridova]

Minor OTL-ATL difference: in the OTL video for Rammstein's Amerika, the lead singer's astronaut suit is labelled "Armstrong"- a reference to astronaut Neil Armstrong. However, in the ATL Rammstein song Eurasia, he'd have to find someone from an EAU nation of similar prominence, meaning that his cosmonaut suit in the ATL video would probably read "Gagarin", a reference to the Russian cosmonaut and first human in space.

Yuri Gagarin, Neil Armstrong and Ranko Yamato, the first people on the moon, in 1969.

No. Yuri Gagarin is first in space, Gherman Titov the first to spend more than 24 hours(for Russia at least), Aleksey Leonov is first for extravehicular activity(for Russia at least), Valentina Tereshkova is the first woman. Sputnik is the first satellite; Laika is the first animal; Belka and Strelka the first animals to return. The Russian sent to the moon for the CS-Russia-Japan would be Svetlana Savitskaya. Neil Armstrong will be the first to set foot on lunar soil.

This brings up a question: would all the lunar landing missions be joint missions, or just the first? Would latter missions be run by individual countries?

[Ruridova]

Gagarin was born to a poorer family in a small village, not to a longstanding noble family. The Gagarins would have far more recent memories of what it was like to live as an average Russian, and would be liberal by royal standards. In addition, Gagarin would advocate more power to the (rubberstamp) Duma and less to the Tsar, as he believed that a common man(like himself) could succeed if not kept down by autocrats. The Gagarins would find the Republicans closer to their ideals.

So anyways, how would be ATL Russia and Alaska compare to each other?

How so?

[Bojikami]

I claim all Soviet music and Tetris for the USSR.

[Luziyca]

So anyways, how would be ATL Russia and Alaska compare to each other?

How so?

Living standards, wealth, etc.

[Ruridova]

I claim all Soviet music and Tetris for the USSR.

You can have Tetris only if you let me make Vladimir Lenin a tsarist.

How so?

Living standards, wealth, etc.

Russia would be slightly better off due to international recognition, but not by much. It would also be far freer politically and economically.

[Bojikami]

I claim all Soviet music and Tetris for the USSR.

You can have Tetris only if you let me make Vladimir Lenin a tsarist.

Ruri, I understand you are trying to make this difficult. But I believe I should get Tetris especially after you swiped the Geneva Conventions from me.

[Ruridova]

You can have Tetris only if you let me make Vladimir Lenin a tsarist.

Ruri, I understand you are trying to make this difficult. But I believe I should get Tetris especially after you swiped the Geneva Conventions from me.

You can have Tetris. But Lenin is still going to be a tsarist.

[Bojikami]

Ruri, I understand you are trying to make this difficult. But I believe I should get Tetris especially after you swiped the Geneva Conventions from me.

You can have Tetris. But Lenin is still going to be a tsarist.

Why?

[Ruridova]

You can have Tetris. But Lenin is still going to be a tsarist.

Why?

OTL, Vladimir Ulyanov's brother Aleksandr was killed by the tsar for joining the People's Will terror group and plotting anti-Tsarist attacks and protests. This pushed Vladimir Ulyanov into radical left-wing politics and ultimately communism.
ATL, Vladimir Ulyanov's brother Aleksandr was killed by People's Will because his father(Ilya Ulyanov) had been made a landed noble and local official(Director of Public Schools for Simbirsk Oblast) by the tsar. This pushed Vladimir Ulyanov into viewing leftism as murderous and support for a gently reformist tsardom(which both of his parents also were in favor of) as the way to go.

[Bojikami]

Why?

OTL, Vladimir Ulyanov's brother Aleksandr was killed by the tsar for joining the People's Will terror group and plotting anti-Tsarist attacks and protests.
ATL, Vladimir Ulyanov's brother Aleksandr was killed by People's Will because his father(Ilya Ulyanov) had been made a landed noble and local official(Director of Public Schools for Simbirsk Oblast) by the tsar.

Oh, okay then.