1923: Extremely Alternate History (OOC, OPEN!)

[Carathon]

The Aztecs annexed a small bit of the Brazilian coast.

[The New Lowlands]

I'm trying to decide between having a Red or Fallen Fighter's Square in front of the Nihonese presidential building.

Square of the Socialist Patriots?

But we're not nominally socialist, unfortunately.

[Lunas Legion]

Square of the Socialist Patriots?

But we're not nominally socialist, unfortunately.

Square of the Red Patriots?

[The New Lowlands]

But we're not nominally socialist, unfortunately.

Square of the Red Patriots?

That sounds good, but "red" only works if relating to blood...

How about just Heroes' Square?

[Lunas Legion]

Square of the Red Patriots?

That sounds good, but "red" only works if relating to blood...

How about just Heroes' Square?

That works. I've got the Plaza of the Elephants outside the Hannibal's Hall in Qart-Hadast.

[Kryskov]

So no one's gonna invade Carpathia, right?

All we want to do is be neutral.

[Lunas Legion]

So no one's gonna invade Carpathia, right?

All we want to do is be neutral.

That's what I'm going to do.

Then I'll backstab someone.

[Carathon]

Once the Aztecs open up increased trade next post, who would be willing to be given sugarcane, coffee, chocolate, gold and all that good stuff at decreased prices inexchange for machinery and military / economical know-how?

[The New Lowlands]

Once the Aztecs open up increased trade next post, who would be willing to be given sugarcane, coffee, chocolate, gold and all that good stuff at decreased prices inexchange for machinery and military / economical know-how?

*waves*

[Carathon]

Once the Aztecs open up increased trade next post, who would be willing to be given sugarcane, coffee, chocolate, gold and all that good stuff at decreased prices inexchange for machinery and military / economical know-how?

*waves*

Alright. Wunderbar.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

The Third Empire shall finish mein app today

[Rephesus]

Just realized the Mughals were persian-based. Thus, it couldn't have happened. Still thinking a Punjabi Empire would be awesome.

No, they were Timur-based (Offshoot of mongols), they were Sunnis. Persians were Shia.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

So how many Romans do we have now like 5?

[Bujahla]

So I was looking through apps and now I'm conflicted. Three people want India. Hmm. This is troublesome.

Irrelgardless of that, I updated map (ignore india subcontinent and surroundings).
http://i.imgur.com/GmgGqoz.png
The shades of grey means NPC entity. I did not make NPC's for Afro-eurasia and Australia.
I also denied some claims with regards to size.
Garwall and Shenguo (forgot actual name but I know him) have reservations.
With regards to Hawaii, it will not be able to be reserved by anyone. I've noticed roughly 1,000 people want it, so read app at the end of it.

Well then, to the apps.
With regards to India, I will just run through the list of pros and cons of each.

Kazirstan:
Pros:
- Creative idea
- Solid app
- Socialist state

Cons:
- Links to NS nation
- Australian and Hawiian colonies will be denied
- Ideology is not interesting. Too generic, could be a more complicated form of communism.
- New to RPing for say.

Raj Hind:
Pros:
- Cool flag
- Unique capital
- Strongest app
- Unique use of syndicates
- Realistic portrayal of weakness of army/navy
- Best RP'r among the three
- Thank god for not being fascist (like everyone else)
- Detailed history

Cons:
- Not overly creative
- Overly large naval force, larger than any western nation


Socialist Indian Republic:
Pros:
- Posted first (that was a repost)
- Most creative ideology
- Second most detailed history

Cons:
- Weakest app
- Strong history of godmodding
- Lack of description in military and navy.
- Economy is incredibly lacking.
- No actual RP sample link.
- Infrastructure, realistically, would be quite shitty.
- Large chance of disregard for realism due to connection to personal ideological beliefs

Thus, if we are to rank them.
Nero - 1st place
Kraz - 2nd place
Tuva - 3rd place

From here we got some options.
A. Nero and Kraz work on a compromise with regards to land owned.
B. Nero gets India, Kraz gets to be a "New Bengaladesh" colony on Australia (found a cool map on another site of it).
C. Tuva is a socialist rebel group. (can be combined with A or B)
D. Nero gets all, Kraz and Tuva get nothing.

You three work it out.

[Kazirstan]

I have TG'd Nero regarding land, I am waiting for his response.
I can change my nation, I didn't know that it was frowned upon to use my NS nation.
I can also figure out a more complicated form of communism. I know it's unlikely for a true Marxist-Leninist state to exist in this time period.

I made the post hoping you would tell me what I could improve upon. I'm glad you did. I'm rather new to this after all.

[Bujahla]

I have TG'd Nero regarding land, I am waiting for his response.
I can change my nation, I didn't know that it was frowned upon to use my NS nation.
I can also figure out a more complicated form of communism. I know it's unlikely for a true Marxist-Leninist state to exist in this time period.

I made the post hoping you would tell me what I could improve upon. I'm glad you did. I'm rather new to this after all.

Sorry I couldn't directly say what to fix. I would have had there been no three people applying for the same thing. And yes, its typically accepted that P2TM should be different than your NS nation (which RP's in II and the other generic forums).

[Kazirstan]

Nation Name: Byzantine Socialist Republic / Byzantium / BSR

Symbols: Flag: http://i.imgur.com/3h9IcgI.jpg?1. Coat of arms features a Double-Headed Eagle (like the one on the flag) surrounded by 10 red-outlined yellow stars, with a hammer and sickle within the eagle (I'll try to get a picture of it later). The 10 stars represent Byzantium's 10 provinces, and the hammer and sickle represents communism. The Double-headed eagle is a symbol of bravery and fierceness, used by the Byzantine monarchy for hundreds of years. It was one of the few symbols of the monarchy that wasn't discarded after the revolution.

Population-homeland: 128,000,000
Population-colonial: 0

Location/Claims: Turkey, Caucasus, Greece. Parts of Egypt, Arabia
In Orange:http://i.imgur.com/qF1UnUp.png

Capital City: Ephesos (pop. 983,000)

Government Type: Marxist-Leninist single-party state,
Ideology: Marxism-Leninism, Castroism (Or the AH equivalent of it), Revolutionary Socialism.
Leader/s: Head of State: Pulcheria Anthemius
Head of Government: Plutarch Exopolis

Economy: $128 billion. Growing quickly due to rapid modernization and industrialisation following the fall of the monarchy. The Byzantine economy relies heavily on water resources. Massive fishing fleets haul in tonnes of fish, crustaceans and whales everyday. Massive processing plants employ thousands of workers. Byzantium is a center of international trade, with the Suez canal forming a vital link between the Mediterranean and the Indian ocean. Development of extensive natural gas resources began in the 1880's, but development is still slow. Agriculture is another important element of the Byzantine Economy. Massive grain fields line the banks of the Nile river, while Greece is a major source of luxury resources, such as wine and olive oil. Rock salt has been mined in Byzantium for centuries, and along with Limestone and gold, makes up most of the mining sector. There are also vast, unexploited oil reserves in the Caucasus.

Infrastructure: Fairly advanced. A fairly well-maintained road network connects most towns and major cities, though many villages (especially in the mountainous areas) are left isolated. Work has commenced on a rail network to connect the major cities of Ephesos, Smyma and Pergamon

Army: an army with a standing force of 173,000, and 145,000 in reserve. Equipped with weaponry and equipment leftover from the monarchy, typical of 1914. A massive modernization and procurement program is currently underway. An air arm that had been in its infancy before the revolution is currently in development.

Navy: Similar to the army, consists of 34 outdated ships that had been rusting in harbors for years before the revolution. A modernization program is currently underway as well.

Goals:
-To modernize, and increase living standards throughout the country through the implementation of welfare and healthcare systems.
-To become the dominant military power in the region.
-To combat imperialism and capitalism and unite the nations of the world under the red flag.

History Will be altered to conform with my new location
History: The area that is now Byzantium had been inhabited by Turkic, Macedonian, and Arab tribes for thousands of years before the first advanced civilizations arose in Greece and Egypt around 4000 BCE. These groups would remain fairly isolated until the Kingdom of Byzantium emerged in 25 BCE. The first King was Alexios I, under his rule, the kingdom assimilated many civilizations that inhabited the eastern Mediterranean. The Alexios dynasty would rule The Kingdom for nearly 400 years. In 368 CE King Coriolanus III was assassinated, and replaced by Portia I, a local Duchess. Portia's rule, and that of her successors was exemplified by militarism, harsh taxation, overzealous religious law, and frequent use of the death penalty and horrible methods of torture. The Kingdom, which had been transformed into an empire by 920 CE, would remain under oppressive rule by several dynasties Until 1850, when it became clear the Empire was falling apart. Strict marshal law was put in place after various tribal uprisings in the north and west had overthrown their local Barons, and many frontier provinces were lost to barbarians. By 1892, the communist movement had gained significant support. And by 1904 a brutal civil war broke out. The last Emperor, Plutarch VI, was put to death by the communists in 1915, ending the 11 year war. The Communist party initiated a massive modernization and industrialization program, to bring the newly christened Byzantine Socialist Republic back to the forefront of world affairs and progress. The new party continues to struggle with collectivization. The imposition of State Atheism has caused major religious tensions, resulting in armed uprisings in the northern provinces, and Imperial loyalist holdouts continue to launch guerilla attacks on small villages.

RP Sample: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=296770&p=20156651&sid=dd234cfd04d171cd3b9559082c60f8e2#p20156651
I know it's not that good, but this will be my second ever RP, So hopefully I'll be accepted. It's really hard to get into RP's when they all ask for examples. I hope to learn from this RP and I promise I won't pull any 1-3 liners.
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[Rephesus]

I was about to say that doesn't make any sense ethnically or culturally (or religiously), but it is a creativity RP

[Bujahla]

To clarify Hawaii due to importance, I made it an app.

Nation Name: The Hawaiian Free State
Symbols: Flag
Population-homeland: 299,500
Population-colonial: 0
Location/Claims: Hawaiian Islands
Capital City: Honlulu
Government Type: Corporate Oligarchical Republic
Ideology: free trade, democracy, capitalism, corporatism
Leader/s: Chief Syndicate of Employers
Economy: A very free economy, it is based on the principle of acting as a fueling station. Large businesses own the islands and originate from many nations (Britannia, Nova Roma, Shengduo, Occidental, Punic, Niphon, etc.). They own large coaling stations on the island which are open to many different nations to use. These businesses typically own coal/oil plants in their home nations to provide to the businesses on the island. It has a free trade policy and bars all taxes and tariffs.
Infrastructure: Well developed, the island's businesses have put lots of effort into increasing its development in order to attract more customers. Its ports are gigantic and are some of the best in the world. Its roads are paved and well developed as the wealthy business men drive around the islands. Complex ferry systems connect the islands. Air ports are on each island as well, granted they are small and new.
Army: The nation has no army, only a small private army owned by the Chief Syndicate of Employers (legislative/executive council) that protects the ports.
Navy: Making up a total of 20 ships, all quite modern, the navy is small and well trained. They are meant to protect the islands in case of emergency. They are stationed out of pearl harbor.
Goals:
- Stay independent.
- Expand trading infrastructure to more of the Pacific.
History:
- 1780's, Hawaii is discovered by a Roman explorer. Disregarded as unimportant.
- 1700's-1800's - Hawaiian kingdom modernizes the nation as more westerners and nipponese move to the island.
- 1887 - A coup is launched by a collective group of business men, mostly from Nova Roma, but equally so from other nations. They create a oligarchical and corporate nation that's based on free trade an ruled by businesses.
RP Sample: #its and open nation
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[Baja California y Sonora]

To clarify Hawaii due to importance, I made it an app.

Nation Name: The Hawaiian Free State
Symbols: Flag
Population-homeland: 299,500
Population-colonial: 0
Location/Claims: Hawaiian Islands
Capital City: Honlulu
Government Type: Corporate Oligarchical Republic
Ideology: free trade, democracy, capitalism, corporatism
Leader/s: Chief Syndicate of Employers
Economy: A very free economy, it is based on the principle of acting as a fueling station. Large businesses own the islands and originate from many nations (Britannia, Nova Roma, Shengduo, Occidental, Punic, Niphon, etc.). They own large coaling stations on the island which are open to many different nations to use. These businesses typically own coal/oil plants in their home nations to provide to the businesses on the island. It has a free trade policy and bars all taxes and tariffs.
Infrastructure: Well developed, the island's businesses have put lots of effort into increasing its development in order to attract more customers. Its ports are gigantic and are some of the best in the world. Its roads are paved and well developed as the wealthy business men drive around the islands. Complex ferry systems connect the islands. Air ports are on each island as well, granted they are small and new.
Army: The nation has no army, only a small private army owned by the Chief Syndicate of Employers (legislative/executive council) that protects the ports.
Navy: Making up a total of 20 ships, all quite modern, the navy is small and well trained. They are meant to protect the islands in case of emergency. They are stationed out of pearl harbor.
Goals:
- Stay independent.
- Expand trading infrastructure to more of the Pacific.
History:
- 1780's, Hawaii is discovered by a Roman explorer. Disregarded as unimportant.
- 1700's-1800's - Hawaiian kingdom modernizes the nation as more westerners and nipponese move to the island.
- 1887 - A coup is launched by a collective group of business men, mostly from Nova Roma, but equally so from other nations. They create a oligarchical and corporate nation that's based on free trade an ruled by businesses.
RP Sample: #its and open nation
429- Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

*Accidentally annexes Hawaii*

[Bujahla]

To clarify Hawaii due to importance, I made it an app.

Nation Name: The Hawaiian Free State
Symbols: Flag
Population-homeland: 299,500
Population-colonial: 0
Location/Claims: Hawaiian Islands
Capital City: Honlulu
Government Type: Corporate Oligarchical Republic
Ideology: free trade, democracy, capitalism, corporatism
Leader/s: Chief Syndicate of Employers
Economy: A very free economy, it is based on the principle of acting as a fueling station. Large businesses own the islands and originate from many nations (Britannia, Nova Roma, Shengduo, Occidental, Punic, Niphon, etc.). They own large coaling stations on the island which are open to many different nations to use. These businesses typically own coal/oil plants in their home nations to provide to the businesses on the island. It has a free trade policy and bars all taxes and tariffs.
Infrastructure: Well developed, the island's businesses have put lots of effort into increasing its development in order to attract more customers. Its ports are gigantic and are some of the best in the world. Its roads are paved and well developed as the wealthy business men drive around the islands. Complex ferry systems connect the islands. Air ports are on each island as well, granted they are small and new.
Army: The nation has no army, only a small private army owned by the Chief Syndicate of Employers (legislative/executive council) that protects the ports.
Navy: Making up a total of 20 ships, all quite modern, the navy is small and well trained. They are meant to protect the islands in case of emergency. They are stationed out of pearl harbor.
Goals:
- Stay independent.
- Expand trading infrastructure to more of the Pacific.
History:
- 1780's, Hawaii is discovered by a Roman explorer. Disregarded as unimportant.
- 1700's-1800's - Hawaiian kingdom modernizes the nation as more westerners and nipponese move to the island.
- 1887 - A coup is launched by a collective group of business men, mostly from Nova Roma, but equally so from other nations. They create a oligarchical and corporate nation that's based on free trade an ruled by businesses.
RP Sample: #its and open nation
429- Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

*Accidentally annexes Hawaii*

Nova Roma accidentally annexes Golden Sun.

[Carathon]

Not to complain, but I think the map is slightly incorrect. I believe the Aztec Empire was accepted with the entirety of Peru and Bolivia in addition to it's other lands, yet the map cuts half of Peru out and Bolivia entirely.

If this could be rectified or explained, I would greatly appreciate it.

[Gibberan]

Buj (can I call you that?), am I accepted or is there a problem with my app?

[Conchabira]

Once the Aztecs open up increased trade next post, who would be willing to be given sugarcane, coffee, chocolate, gold and all that good stuff at decreased prices inexchange for machinery and military / economical know-how?

No need I have gold from the Kongo and sugar and coffee

[Sabara]

Not to complain, but I think the map is slightly incorrect. I believe the Aztec Empire was accepted with the entirety of Peru and Bolivia in addition to it's other lands, yet the map cuts half of Peru out and Bolivia entirely.

If this could be rectified or explained, I would greatly appreciate it.

Peru?

But Peru is le mine.