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Sveltlana
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Postby Sveltlana » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:10 am

Caltarania wrote:
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And we'll probably send that letter anyways. if only just to see if we can obtain access to a videotape of that rape.


Feel free, we won't really care :P

We'll look at it, and promptly burn it most likely.

O.O Erm. Ah. Err.


Ah, diplomacy!

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Garwall
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Postby Garwall » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:22 am

Caltarania wrote:
Garwall wrote:Work-in-progress application.

Nation Name: Vereinigt Brasilianische Reich
Symbols: TBD
Population-homeland: 34,635,605
Population-colonial: N/A
Location/Claims: Claims in Grey.
Capital City: New Hague (Sao Paulo)
Government Type: Presidential Dictatorship
Ideology: Authoritarianism, Corporatism, Imperialism, Conservatism, Protectionism
Leader/s: TBD
Economy: TBD
Infrastructure: 5/10 (strong railroads/canals in coastal regions, poor transportation system inland)
Army: 170,000 (active), 90,000 (reserve), 7/10
Navy: 40,000 (active), 13,000 (reserve), 6/10
Goals: Expansion of political influence in South/Central America, expansion of economic sphere of influence in the Americas and Africa/Asia, expansion of Germanic cultural dominance.
History: TBD
RP Sample: TBD

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Pro-tip: The Hague doesn't, and never did, exist. Ergo, you can't very well have a new one :P


That presents some unnecessary difficulties/annoyances with naming various locations, but whatever. I just threw that as a placeholder regardless.
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Religion: Atheist
Ideology: Socialist
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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:24 am

Garwall wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Pro-tip: The Hague doesn't, and never did, exist. Ergo, you can't very well have a new one :P


That presents some unnecessary difficulties/annoyances with naming various locations, but whatever. I just threw that as a placeholder regardless.


Mhm. As far as I can tell, Dutch culture wouldn't exist either, considering the Netherlands have been split between Britannia (where the inhabitants of our areas are Frisii and Batavi) and Holstein (where I would assume the citizens of their Netherlands are German) for like over a thousand years.
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Garwall
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Postby Garwall » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:40 am

Caltarania wrote:
Garwall wrote:
That presents some unnecessary difficulties/annoyances with naming various locations, but whatever. I just threw that as a placeholder regardless.


Mhm. As far as I can tell, Dutch culture wouldn't exist either, considering the Netherlands have been split between Britannia (where the inhabitants of our areas are Frisii and Batavi) and Holstein (where I would assume the citizens of their Netherlands are German) for like over a thousand years.


Well, Frisii is somewhat a precursor to the Dutch modern language, so it could be postulated that over time, the blending of Germanic and Latin/Britannian culture could result in a proto-Dutch culture that emerges in enough significance to impact the history of my nation, but not enough to cause major shifts/changes in their parent countries.
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"For Home and Countrymen!"

-Battle-cry used by Garwall Revolutionaries as they storm the Capitol Building, raising the Rebel Flag.
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=132814#p6655830
Above: The Treaty of Belgratz, the Document ratifying the Socialist Party's rise to power in Garwall.

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Postby Rephesus » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:48 am

I wont even begin to criticize ow close minded those comments on Invading India were. As of now in OTL India would either be united under the british Empire (Doesn't exist) or the precursor, the Mughal Empire.

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Postby Prusslandia » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:04 pm

So it makes sense for my Mongol controlled India to exist ?
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:19 pm

Prusslandia wrote:So it makes sense for my Mongol controlled India to exist ?


You'd probably have to go for a different tribal horde. Punics squashed the Mongols way before their time.
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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:21 pm

Sabara wrote:Nation Name: Shenguo Republic
Symbols: National Emblem
Population-homeland: ~41 million
Population-colonial: ~2 million
Location/Claims: Chile/Coastal Peru/Southern Argentina/Polynesia/Samoa/Micronesia/Guam-Saipan/Wake Island/Aleutians/Northern Kurils/Hawaii
Capital City: Tai Long (Santiago)
Government Type: Post-apartheid nearly developed democracy.
Ideology: Laissez-faire
Leader/s: Prime Minister Li Wubei, President Pari Hasua
Economy: Shenguo maintains a rapidly developing economy, with an emphasis on less governmental control over fiscal affairs - in essence, a laissez-fairestate. Under the old apartheid government, natives on the Pacific Islands and inthe mainland generally took extremely menial jobs and lived in slums outside the Chinese majority cities. However, the middle class is continuing to absorb more 'Yangui' (natives) as they move into the cities and earn a higher keep.
Infrastructure: In Shenguo proper, the roads systems around the main population centers are well kept and new. However, in more rural areas, paths are extremely difficult to navigate and treacherous. Some communities even use the ancient roads built by the Incas.
Army: Not very strong, focused on defense. Approximately 0.02% of the population are enlisted in active and reserve forces.
Navy: Very strong, one of the largest powers in the Pacific - maintains a wide reach from the Aleutians to Polynesia, very modern, and large. Approximately 0.04% of the population are enlisted in the navy.
Goals: To strengthen the economy to that of a developed state, and become a major power worldwide.
History: (In a nutshell - I'll edit when I have the time) Basically the Ming continued to explore, colonized Chile/Peru/Pacific Islands, native populations didn't die out, when Ming weakened colonies broke free as Shenguo, Chinese colonists used an apartheid system similar to that in South Africa, only recently has it been lifted.
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The Ming never existed. The Khmer have ruled China since the 900s.
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Postby Prusslandia » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:23 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:So it makes sense for my Mongol controlled India to exist ?


You'd probably have to go for a different tribal horde. Punics squashed the Mongols way before their time.

Damn. Any suggestions ?
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:27 pm

Prusslandia wrote:
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You'd probably have to go for a different tribal horde. Punics squashed the Mongols way before their time.

Damn. Any suggestions ?


Oirats? Chagtai Khanate in India?
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Sabara
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Postby Sabara » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:28 pm

long live chinese chile o/

(has a nice ring, eh?)
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:29 pm

Prusslandia wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
You'd probably have to go for a different tribal horde. Punics squashed the Mongols way before their time.

Damn. Any suggestions ?

India, or at least Bengal, is also a bunch of little princely states, and I assume this situation extends fairly far since the Khmer are going to send diplomats to Varanasi to negotiate with some of the maharajas. Perhpas you could do something in south/central Africa and the Maghreb? Or the Congo Basin? Or you could do Arabia outside the Rub al-Khali.
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Postby Rephesus » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:30 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:Damn. Any suggestions ?

India, or at least Bengal, is also a bunch of little princely states, and I assume this situation extends fairly far since the Khmer are going to send diplomats to Varanasi to negotiate with some of the maharajas. Perhpas you could do something in south/central Africa and the Maghreb? Or the Congo Basin? Or you could do Arabia outside the Rub al-Khali.


Not if he claims it it isn't. If he wants to be India you wont be able to deny him solely because you want to conquer it.

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The Emerald Dragon
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:33 pm

Meanwhile in Australia...

Nothing.

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Postby Prusslandia » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:37 pm

Rephesus wrote:
Senkaku wrote:India, or at least Bengal, is also a bunch of little princely states, and I assume this situation extends fairly far since the Khmer are going to send diplomats to Varanasi to negotiate with some of the maharajas. Perhpas you could do something in south/central Africa and the Maghreb? Or the Congo Basin? Or you could do Arabia outside the Rub al-Khali.


Not if he claims it it isn't. If he wants to be India you wont be able to deny him solely because you want to conquer it.

I just need to edit my Khanate app.

@Lunas- Would a Sikh Khanate work ?
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Postby Rephesus » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:37 pm

Prusslandia wrote:
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Not if he claims it it isn't. If he wants to be India you wont be able to deny him solely because you want to conquer it.

I just need to edit my Khanate app.

@Lunas- Would a Sikh Khanate work ?


Sikhs don't form Khanates, they form empires with Raj's as heads of state.

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Postby Prusslandia » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:38 pm

Rephesus wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:I just need to edit my Khanate app.

@Lunas- Would a Sikh Khanate work ?


Sikhs don't form Khanates, they form empires with Raj's as heads of state.

True.
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Postby Kazirstan » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:42 pm

The Emerald Dragon wrote:Meanwhile in Australia...

Nothing.

I plan to have colonies in Australia, if I am accepted.

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Postby Bujahla » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:09 pm

@Chinese Chile, upon fixing history, you can be accepted with the loss of pacific ocean claims that extend beyond french Polynesia, Hawaii, and Easter island.

@All, having known Garwall from multiple RP's, his land in his WIP app is reserved.

@Prussialand, Mongols =/= Mughals btw.
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Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."


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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:09 pm

Sveltlana wrote:
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Our response will probably be something like the rape of the President's daughter.

We don't quite understand the idea of etiquette, and we don't care for diplomacy unless it serves us favourably. We'll most likely send some soldier to Roma, and when he starts drinking wine and eating a turkey leg in front of the Pope, we won't understand why everyone is so disgusted.

In our culture, and our ideological beliefs, the weak bow to the strong, or the strong kill the weak. Because we believe in 'National Darwinism' we believe that if a nation cannot defend itself, or bring itself into existence through force, it doesn't deserve to exist. Also, we didn't carry out any actions against the citizenry, only the President. Our idea of Imperial Citizenship basically makes us respect the Lower Burgundians, because they are now citizens of the Empire of Britannia. Those who resist will be treated differently, however.


And we'll probably send that letter anyways. if only just to see if we can obtain access to a videotape of that rape.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:11 pm

Bujahla wrote:@Chinese Chile, upon fixing history, you can be accepted with the loss of pacific ocean claims that extend beyond french Polynesia, Hawaii, and Easter island.

@All, having known Garwall from multiple RP's, his land in his WIP app is reserved.

@Prussialand, Mongols =/= Mughals btw.


From the wiki, Mughals are Timurids by a different name. Could go from the Mohgul Khanate though.
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Postby Bujahla » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:13 pm

Just realized the Mughals were persian-based. Thus, it couldn't have happened. Still thinking a Punjabi Empire would be awesome.
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Postby Baja California y Sonora » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:14 pm

How is everyone today?

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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:15 pm

Baja California y Sonora wrote:How is everyone today?

I'm trying to decide between having a Red or Fallen Fighter's Square in front of the Nihonese presidential building.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:17 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:
Baja California y Sonora wrote:How is everyone today?

I'm trying to decide between having a Red or Fallen Fighter's Square in front of the Nihonese presidential building.


Square of the Socialist Patriots?
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