1923: Extremely Alternate History (OOC, OPEN!)

[Great Kleomentia]

New app, i hope no one has already claimed my new claims. The app is still not finished, and is posted only for safe keeping.

Nation Name: The Oligarchic Empire of Illyria
Symbols: Flaggy
Population-homeland: 90 million
Population-colonial: none
Location/Claims: The light green on the Balkans, Asia Minor and Egypt
Capital City: Thessalonika
Government Type: Oligarchic Monarchy
Ideology: Orthodox Unity, Re-Create the Roman Empire, Serbo-Greek nationalism
Leader/s: Emperor Ziles III Slovoydin and the Grand Senate
Economy: 9/10, mix between Feudalism and Capitalism
Infrastructure: The Balkans provide most of the food and ores for Illyria, as well as clothing materials and similar. However, all the oil refineries and similar are located in Asia Minor and Africa. Thus, strong naval routes are present in the Eastern Mediterrean. Roads on land are long and not very complex, as there isn't much need for it.
Army: 500,000 active personnel, six million in reserves. Highly disciplined and greatly equipped. High number of artillery guns and tanks, but not a large number of armored cars and similar.
Navy: A strong and capable navy that used to support colonies in Indonesia and Africa. A decent number of large battle cruisers and a greater number of smaller and fast battleships combined with a small number of submarines are well noted to be a deadly naval force.
Goals:
History: To be written.
RP Sample:
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[Tuva SSR]

Nation Name:Socialist Indian Republic
Symbols:Mancala,Eight Pronged Wheel,head of Ganesh
Population-homeland:67,000,000
Population-colonial:6,000,000
Location/Claims:India,Bangladesh,Pakistan,Nepal,Sri Lanka,Maldives,Bhutan,Burma,Tibet
Capital City:Delhi
Government Type:Socialist Republic
Ideology:Maharaja Communism (an Indian type of Marxism that involves having Maharajas as the Head of State and eliminates all anti-Monarchy feelings and puts more anti-Colonialism ones in.
Leader/s:Maharaja Indir Mohammed Gandhi,President Apu Mohandra
Economy:The economy is booming due to the large mining and building industry.A few hundred thousand work in the mines,while people are taxed by the government.
Infrastructure:The infrastructure is very good,with the roads being clean ever since the first invasion of Bengal failed due to bad roads and supplies.
Army:Indian People's Army (4 Million)
Navy:Indian People's Navy (2 Million)
Goals:
-To create a perfect Socialist state
-To eliminate all European Colonialism
-To make sure the Selucids don't get too close.
History:
c.500 BC-The Buddha begins teaching.Many follow him,and by 200 BC,there is a Buddhist Kingdom (Bihar) and a Hindu one (Maratha).
12 AD-The two kingdoms expand until India is split in half.A rivalry begins.
67 AD-After decades of tension,the Hindus had enough,and invaded Bihar.The Emperor,Mossala II,was killed and the Hindus overrun the country.Maharaja Gepur III is declared lord of all India as the Bihars (as they are now known) fled into Tibet and Nepal.
789-Muslim raiders from Pakistan spill like paint over the Punjab and Kashmir.Many kingdoms pop up,and a war erupts.Delhi is taken by Pakistani warlord Muhammad Ali Zamar,and declared Emir.Desperate,Gepar X battles in the dead center of India.A Hindu Army sneaks around the western mountains to the sea and launch an attack on the Punjab.The Muslims are taken by surprise,and Emir Muhammad is trapped in Delhi.He sues for peace,and leaves the city by horse at night.The war lasted 6 years.
1226-Mongol Raiders try to take over the Kingdom of Maratha,under Selim Garashti now.They burn,pillage,sack Delhi,but after thinking about it they left.
1578:Parsala Jamur I invades Bangladesh,but fails due to improper maintenance.He tries again in 1586,with better roads,and succeeds.No longer Maratha,the kingdom became the "Kingdom of Hindu",and three years later "Raj of India",with a new Maharaja,Gepur XVI.
1790-Muslim raiders come back again,and with muskets about,it's a bloodbath.In Calcutta,a whole Indian army was massacred and the city burned.Bangladesh didn't fare so well,either.The Muslims sack it and retreat to the north after being defeated by the last Royal Army,the very one that saved India hundreds of years before.
1810-The Bihars,now with a Tibetan/Nepalese Kingdom,attack India.They spread Buddhist objects and symbols,and with the economic ruin that faced the Kingdom,many soldiers defected,even the 1st Royal Army,the one that had saved India twice.Delhi was sacked for the fourth time,and the Maharaja fell.The Bihars were in power once more.
1879-With Karl Marx's theories in hand,many Indians,including the Maharaja himself,wanted a Socialist government.It was created,and the Socialist Indian Republic was born.
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[The New Lowlands]

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The Roman Empire didn't stop existing, and for someone with a navy "used to support colonies in Indonesia and Africa" you don't seem to have any colonies in Asia.

[Great Kleomentia]

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The Roman Empire didn't stop existing, and for someone with a navy "used to support colonies in Indonesia and Africa" you don't seem to have any colonies in Asia.

"used to", as in doesn't anymore. The colonies are all free or taken over by someone else. I thought about having colonies in Africa, but that would only make things more complicated for me. If i go with simply the land i have, it will be easier to spread into Asia and Europe. And I'm going to write in my history that Illyria doesn't recognize the current Rome as the rightful Rome and considers itself the rightful owner of those lands.

[The New Lowlands]

The Roman Empire didn't stop existing, and for someone with a navy "used to support colonies in Indonesia and Africa" you don't seem to have any colonies in Asia.

"used to", as in doesn't anymore. The colonies are all free or taken over by someone else. I thought about having colonies in Africa, but that would only make things more complicated for me. If i go with simply the land i have, it will be easier to spread into Asia and Europe. And I'm going to write in my history that Illyria doesn't recognize the current Rome as the rightful Rome and considers itself the rightful owner of those lands.

Ooh, this should be good. Still disappointed by the lack of Socialist states, though. :c

[Great Kleomentia]

"used to", as in doesn't anymore. The colonies are all free or taken over by someone else. I thought about having colonies in Africa, but that would only make things more complicated for me. If i go with simply the land i have, it will be easier to spread into Asia and Europe. And I'm going to write in my history that Illyria doesn't recognize the current Rome as the rightful Rome and considers itself the rightful owner of those lands.

Ooh, this should be good. Still disappointed by the lack of Socialist states, though. :c

There's always a possibility of a communist dictatorship wannabe popping up in Africa.

[The SFSR]

*snip*.

Speaking as Co-OP. I like this. Will ask Buj to see if it's creative enough.

[Gibberan]

Nation Name: The Occidental Free State (or Occidentalia)
Symbols: Fasces, Maple Leaf, flag
Population-homeland: 39,600,000
Population-colonial: 26,490,000
Location/Claims: This minus the Texas claims and Brittany
Capital City: Vancouver
Government Type: Single-party Fascist Presidential Republic
Ideology: Italian Fascism, Nationalism, Imperialism
Leader/s: Prime Minister Jefferson Nanuque
Economy: GDP is approximately 280 billion USD. Major exports are minerals, oil, timber, and utilities.
Infrastructure: Made up of a combination of large ports and efficient roadways (though certain ones are not paved), along with trains and river barges. Dogsledding is also particularly popular in the north.
Army: The army is large and similar to the French Army at the end of WWI, although it's organizational system has been reorganized in a manner similar to sovietization.
Navy: The navy is by far considered more important and more efficient than the army, at least in most eyes. It is composed of numerous dreadnought battleships and is on the verge of completing an aircraft carrier.
Goals: To assert itself as one of the major powers in the world and to spread fascism.
History:

• 1595: The Kingdom of Occidentalia is founded by a pact signed by Kugluk the Great, ruler of a coalition of Native American tribes, and the European explorer Peter of Mann.
• 1677: Occidentalia acquires the territory of Aleyska (Alaska and Yukon), the first colony of what will become the Occidentalian Empire
• 1689 - 1861: The Empire continues expanding
• 1890 -1910: Growing oppression from the state continues
• 1910 - 1915: Civil war between the Monarchists and the Liberals factions breaks out and rav­ages the country.
• 1915: The Monarchists de facto win the war after the Liberal government collapses. The fascist party, having gained substantial support during the civil war years, becomes the majority party in Parliament by a landslide in the postwar elections.
• 1916 - present: The country ush­ers in a par­tial return to a period of economic and civil stability, and adopts con­sti­tu­tion based on the dic­ta­tor­ship of the incumbent Fascist regime and stip­u­lat­ing the pub­lic own­er­ship of land and the means of pro­duc­tion.
• 1919 - present: Announce­ment of the dis­cov­ery of a plot against the Fascist regime leads to a in a large-scale purge in which thou­sands of alleged dis­si­dents in the armed forces, the gov­ern­ment and even relatives of the Royal family were imprisoned or exiled. The regime also discreetly opened labor camps for certain offenders, although this isn't known to the majority.

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[Garwall]

What's the status on South America? Would Peru/Bolivia/Ecuador/Colombia/Venezuela, or any land in that area, be open/unreserved?

Either we think extremely alike or you're just unlucky. I just took the above countries.

FFFFF--

Alright, how about Brazil/the Guyanas?

[Gibberan]

I have the part of Brazil closest to Africa [On the map above]

[Garwall]

I have the part of Brazil closest to Africa [On the map above]

That's a really odd strip of land to have, would you compromise at possibly taking the Guyanas instead?

[Gibberan]

I have the part of Brazil closest to Africa [On the map above]

That's a really odd strip of land to have, would you compromise at possibly taking the Guyanas instead?

They're too large, Buj told me to bring my claims over South America down.

[Garwall]

That's a really odd strip of land to have, would you compromise at possibly taking the Guyanas instead?

They're too large, Buj told me to bring my claims over South America down.

Why not remove them all together? But srsly, it's just odd to take that area of coastline--could you possibly condense it in one other area, or maybe a smaller ball on the easternmost area of Brazil? Or just part of the Guyanas?

[Gibberan]

They're too large, Buj told me to bring my claims over South America down.

Why not remove them all together? But srsly, it's just odd to take that area of coastline--could you possibly condense it in one other area, or maybe a smaller ball on the easternmost area of Brazil? Or just part of the Guyanas?

All right, I'll change it to the easternmost area. i just need that area because it's my closest route to my African colonies.

Here: http://s1032.photobucket.com/user/Jerry ... 4.png.html

[Senkaku]

Why? Why is everyone applying to be India after I invaded Bengal? It's not like I'm going to stop at Kolkata. The Khmer are going for Delhi, here.


Guess this'll be kinda weird, if someone gets accepted.

[Rephesus]

Why? Why is everyone applying to be India after I invaded Bengal? It's not like I'm going to stop at Kolkata. The Khmer are going for Delhi, here.


Guess this'll be kinda weird, if someone gets accepted.

There is no way in hell you'd be able to hold India. The minute they see Chinese soldiers you'll see hundreds of millions of angry Indians rushing at you with Kitchen knives.

Also good luck invading over the Bengal delta. You can't move supplies over without roads, which you need to build.

[Caltarania]

Why? Why is everyone applying to be India after I invaded Bengal? It's not like I'm going to stop at Kolkata. The Khmer are going for Delhi, here.


Guess this'll be kinda weird, if someone gets accepted.

There is no way in hell you'd be able to hold India. The minute they see Chinese soldiers you'll see hundreds of millions of angry Indians rushing at you with Kitchen knives.

Also good luck invading over the Bengal delta. You can't move supplies over without roads, which you need to build.

I'd beg to differ. When he started the invasion, India was a shit tonne of Princely States (or so we all assumed). If he uses a Divide and Conquer tactic, along with giving the Princes relative autonomy, he should be able to hold on to India with relative ease. He may have to put down a few rebellions, but eh.

[Garwall]

Why not remove them all together? But srsly, it's just odd to take that area of coastline--could you possibly condense it in one other area, or maybe a smaller ball on the easternmost area of Brazil? Or just part of the Guyanas?

All right, I'll change it to the easternmost area. i just need that area because it's my closest route to my African colonies.

Here: http://s1032.photobucket.com/user/JerryMcDalmatian/media/V2_Blank_Sea_zps4867e014.png.html

Awesome, that'll work perfectly. Thanks!

[The New Lowlands]

There is no way in hell you'd be able to hold India. The minute they see Chinese soldiers you'll see hundreds of millions of angry Indians rushing at you with Kitchen knives.

Also good luck invading over the Bengal delta. You can't move supplies over without roads, which you need to build.

I'd beg to differ. When he started the invasion, India was a shit tonne of Princely States (or so we all assumed). If he uses a Divide and Conquer tactic, along with giving the Princes relative autonomy, he should be able to hold on to India with relative ease. He may have to put down a few rebellions, but eh.

Yes, but a) dem logistics b) this is assuming there aren't any other powers that take unkindly to a :notchinese: invasion of India.

[Caltarania]

I'd beg to differ. When he started the invasion, India was a shit tonne of Princely States (or so we all assumed). If he uses a Divide and Conquer tactic, along with giving the Princes relative autonomy, he should be able to hold on to India with relative ease. He may have to put down a few rebellions, but eh.

Yes, but a) dem logistics b) this is assuming there aren't any other powers that take unkindly to a :notchinese: invasion of India.

a) Well yeah, but that's a problem in any invasion really.
b) Yeah, but that's not what we were discussing. He'll be able to hold onto it. If someone attacks him or actively supports rebels, that's another matter.

[The New Lowlands]

Yes, but a) dem logistics b) this is assuming there aren't any other powers that take unkindly to a :notchinese: invasion of India.

a) Well yeah, but that's a problem in any invasion really.
b) Yeah, but that's not what we were discussing. He'll be able to hold onto it. If someone attacks him or actively supports rebels, that's another matter.

a) India at this time is presumably like the Soviet Union in autumn except all the time forever.
b) who do you think I was referring to?

[Sveltlana]

"used to", as in doesn't anymore. The colonies are all free or taken over by someone else. I thought about having colonies in Africa, but that would only make things more complicated for me. If i go with simply the land i have, it will be easier to spread into Asia and Europe. And I'm going to write in my history that Illyria doesn't recognize the current Rome as the rightful Rome and considers itself the rightful owner of those lands.

Ooh, this should be good. Still disappointed by the lack of Socialist states, though. :c

*looks disapprovingly from a shady corner*

[The New Lowlands]

Ooh, this should be good. Still disappointed by the lack of Socialist states, though. :c

*looks disapprovingly from a shady corner*

fünf Jahre ist ein bisschen spät, aber besser nun dann nicht

[Caltarania]

a) Well yeah, but that's a problem in any invasion really.
b) Yeah, but that's not what we were discussing. He'll be able to hold onto it. If someone attacks him or actively supports rebels, that's another matter.

a) India at this time is presumably like the Soviet Union in autumn except all the time forever.
b) who do you think I was referring to?

a) Wut? You mean like Russia in the winter?
b) No, no, no. I meant exterior powers. I don't think that - if there was various princely states in India - there would be a unified Indian identity. That only really appeared because Empire. No Indian identity, no joint Indian attack. No joint Indian attack, no communist uprising.

[The New Lowlands]

a) India at this time is presumably like the Soviet Union in autumn except all the time forever.
b) who do you think I was referring to?

a) Wut? You mean like Russia in the winter?
b) No, no, no. I meant exterior powers. I don't think that - if there was various princely states in India - there would be a unified Indian identity. That only really appeared because Empire. No Indian identity, no joint Indian attack. No joint Indian attack, no communist uprising.

a) The only reason Russian Winters are so bad is because the new uniforms and rations don't make it over the roads in autumn.
b) *communism intensifies*