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Postby Carathon » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:17 pm

The Pope. Bah, that old fool in the white marble castle spewing vile untruths about the Old Gods and promoting the heresy that is the cross-bearing Demon. One day we shall build a pyramid on the banks of the Tiber and rip out his vile, black heart for all the world to see.
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Postby Brissia » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:18 pm

i.imgur.com/zmwTS6k.jpg

OK, Svetlana, this the very rough map of the Greater Archduchy, which is that gigantic red splotch in the middle of Europe.

Ignore the Veneto and Slovenia parts, those were made before the OP's statement.
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Brissia wrote:I'm Jewish, so I guess I'll just stare at your windows, waving a menorah at Christmas Carolers.

But you won't because Hanukkah is at Thanksgiving.
Just imagine; "Friends, family, I'd just like to say before I cut the Turkey BARUCH ATA ADONAI..."

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Postby Kryskov » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:22 pm

Carathon wrote:The Pope. Bah, that old fool in the white marble castle spewing vile untruths about the Old Gods and promoting the heresy that is the cross-bearing Demon. One day we shall build a pyramid on the banks of the Tiber and rip out his vile, black heart for all the world to see.

Well that escalated quickly...

Brissia wrote:i.imgur.com/zmwTS6k.jpg

OK, Svetlana, this the very rough map of the Greater Archduchy, which is that gigantic red splotch in the middle of Europe.

Ignore the Veneto and Slovenia parts, those were made before the OP's statement.

Please don't be of hurtings me

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Postby Brissia » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:23 pm

Kryskov wrote:
Carathon wrote:The Pope. Bah, that old fool in the white marble castle spewing vile untruths about the Old Gods and promoting the heresy that is the cross-bearing Demon. One day we shall build a pyramid on the banks of the Tiber and rip out his vile, black heart for all the world to see.

Well that escalated quickly...

Brissia wrote:i.imgur.com/zmwTS6k.jpg

OK, Svetlana, this the very rough map of the Greater Archduchy, which is that gigantic red splotch in the middle of Europe.

Ignore the Veneto and Slovenia parts, those were made before the OP's statement.

Please don't be of hurtings me

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Brissia wrote:I'm Jewish, so I guess I'll just stare at your windows, waving a menorah at Christmas Carolers.

But you won't because Hanukkah is at Thanksgiving.
Just imagine; "Friends, family, I'd just like to say before I cut the Turkey BARUCH ATA ADONAI..."

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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:25 pm

Carathon wrote:The Pope. Bah, that old fool in the white marble castle spewing vile untruths about the Old Gods and promoting the heresy that is the cross-bearing Demon. One day we shall build a pyramid on the banks of the Tiber and rip out his vile, black heart for all the world to see.

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Postby Carathon » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:27 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Carathon wrote:The Pope. Bah, that old fool in the white marble castle spewing vile untruths about the Old Gods and promoting the heresy that is the cross-bearing Demon. One day we shall build a pyramid on the banks of the Tiber and rip out his vile, black heart for all the world to see.

M8 il rek ye


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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:29 pm

Carathon wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:M8 il rek ye


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All we want is your heart.

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We want your body, Blood and soul
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Postby Senkaku » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:33 pm

Question: the Maori have Renault tanks. Do tanks even exist? And if so, why the fuck would they be made by Renault? Does Renault even exist?


Just say "light tanks", mate.
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Postby Brissia » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:33 pm

Senkaku wrote:Question: the Maori have Renault tanks. Do tanks even exist? And if so, why the fuck would they be made by Renault? Does Renault even exist?


Just say "light tanks", mate.

New Zealand has tanks? What?
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Brissia wrote:I'm Jewish, so I guess I'll just stare at your windows, waving a menorah at Christmas Carolers.

But you won't because Hanukkah is at Thanksgiving.
Just imagine; "Friends, family, I'd just like to say before I cut the Turkey BARUCH ATA ADONAI..."

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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:38 pm

Senkaku wrote:Question: the Maori have Renault tanks. Do tanks even exist? And if so, why the fuck would they be made by Renault? Does Renault even exist?


Just say "light tanks", mate.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_FT

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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:38 pm

Brissia wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Question: the Maori have Renault tanks. Do tanks even exist? And if so, why the fuck would they be made by Renault? Does Renault even exist?


Just say "light tanks", mate.

New Zealand has tanks? What?


Only a few...

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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:59 pm

The Emerald Dragon wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Question: the Maori have Renault tanks. Do tanks even exist? And if so, why the fuck would they be made by Renault? Does Renault even exist?


Just say "light tanks", mate.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_FT

That tank isnt even used by the real New Zealand
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:59 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:

That tank isnt even used by the real New Zealand


This is AH.

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Postby Senkaku » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:59 pm

The Emerald Dragon wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Question: the Maori have Renault tanks. Do tanks even exist? And if so, why the fuck would they be made by Renault? Does Renault even exist?


Just say "light tanks", mate.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_FT

I understand what you meant.


But since WW1 never happened (or happened very differently), and I'm not sure France and thus Renaukt exists, I'm saying you should just say light tank, because a "Renault FT" may not exist in this world, or may be something quite different.

The Khmer are going to basically have small ships (think RL WW1 destroyers or torpedo boats) on treads for their tanks, with lots of machine guns (which they invented.)
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:02 pm

Senkaku wrote:

I understand what you meant.


But since WW1 never happened (or happened very differently), and I'm not sure France and thus Renaukt exists, I'm saying you should just say light tank, because a "Renault FT" may not exist in this world, or may be something quite different.

The Khmer are going to basically have small ships (think RL WW1 destroyers) on treads for their tanks, with lots of machine guns (which they invented.)


I'll just have the Lee Enfield.

Which... was invented by Maoris in this Universe.

Yay, 30 rounds a minute of firing.

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Postby Senkaku » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:05 pm

The Emerald Dragon wrote:
Senkaku wrote:I understand what you meant.


But since WW1 never happened (or happened very differently), and I'm not sure France and thus Renaukt exists, I'm saying you should just say light tank, because a "Renault FT" may not exist in this world, or may be something quite different.

The Khmer are going to basically have small ships (think RL WW1 destroyers) on treads for their tanks, with lots of machine guns (which they invented.)


I'll just have the Lee Enfield.

Which... was invented by Maoris in this Universe.

Yay, 30 rounds a minute of firing.

Yes, but don't call it the Lee Enfield, right? Because it's AH? And don't call your tanks Renaults either.
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Postby Kryskov » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:13 pm

Senkaku wrote:
The Emerald Dragon wrote:
I'll just have the Lee Enfield.

Which... was invented by Maoris in this Universe.

Yay, 30 rounds a minute of firing.

Yes, but don't call it the Lee Enfield, right? Because it's AH? And don't call your tanks Renaults either.

If it's AH, it could just happen to be called the same thing.

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Postby Garwall » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:17 pm

What's the status on South America? Would Peru/Bolivia/Ecuador/Colombia/Venezuela, or any land in that area, be open/unreserved?
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Postby Carathon » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:18 pm

Garwall wrote:What's the status on South America? Would Peru/Bolivia/Ecuador/Colombia/Venezuela, or any land in that area, be open/unreserved?


Either we think extremely alike or you're just unlucky. I just took the above countries.
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:21 pm

Senkaku wrote:
The Emerald Dragon wrote:
I'll just have the Lee Enfield.

Which... was invented by Maoris in this Universe.

Yay, 30 rounds a minute of firing.

Yes, but don't call it the Lee Enfield, right? Because it's AH? And don't call your tanks Renaults either.


The Waitangi rifle. Yes, just yes.

I mean, such excellent firing rate, best achieved was 38 rounds a minute.

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Postby Kazirstan » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:49 pm

Nation Name: Byzantine Socialist Republic / Byzantium / BSR

Symbols: Flag: http://i.imgur.com/3h9IcgI.jpg?1. Coat of arms features a Double-Headed Eagle (like the one on the flag) surrounded by 10 red-outlined yellow stars, with a hammer and sickle within the eagle (I'll try to get a picture of it later). The 10 stars represent Byzantium's 10 provinces, and the hammer and sickle represents communism. The Double-headed eagle is a symbol of bravery and fierceness, used by the Byzantine monarchy for hundreds of years. It was one of the few symbols of the monarchy that wasn't discarded after the revolution.

Population-homeland: 128,000,000
Population-colonial: 0

Location/Claims: Turkey, Caucasus, Greece. Parts of Egypt, Arabia
In Orange:http://i.imgur.com/qF1UnUp.png

Capital City: Ephesos (pop. 983,000)

Government Type: Marxist-Leninist single-party state,
Ideology: Marxism-Leninism, Castroism (Or the AH equivalent of it), Revolutionary Socialism.
Leader/s: Head of State: Pulcheria Anthemius
Head of Government: Plutarch Exopolis

Economy: $128 billion. Growing quickly due to rapid modernization and industrialisation following the fall of the monarchy. The Byzantine economy relies heavily on water resources. Massive fishing fleets haul in tonnes of fish, crustaceans and whales everyday. Massive processing plants employ thousands of workers. Byzantium is a center of international trade, with the Suez canal forming a vital link between the Mediterranean and the Indian ocean. Development of extensive natural gas resources began in the 1880's, but development is still slow. Agriculture is another important element of the Byzantine Economy. Massive grain fields line the banks of the Nile river, while Greece is a major source of luxury resources, such as wine and olive oil. Rock salt has been mined in Byzantium for centuries, and along with Limestone and gold, makes up most of the mining sector. There are also vast, unexploited oil reserves in the Caucasus.

Infrastructure: Fairly advanced. A fairly well-maintained road network connects most towns and major cities, though many villages (especially in the mountainous areas) are left isolated. Work has commenced on a rail network to connect the major cities of Ephesos, Smyma and Pergamon

Army: an army with a standing force of 173,000, and 145,000 in reserve. Equipped with weaponry and equipment leftover from the monarchy, typical of 1914. A massive modernization and procurement program is currently underway. An air arm that had been in its infancy before the revolution is currently in development.

Navy: Similar to the army, consists of 34 outdated ships that had been rusting in harbors for years before the revolution. A modernization program is currently underway as well.

Goals:
-To modernize, and increase living standards throughout the country through the implementation of welfare and healthcare systems.
-To become the dominant military power in the region.
-To combat imperialism and capitalism and unite the nations of the world under the red flag.

History: The area that is now Byzantium had been inhabited by Turkic, Macedonian, and Arab tribes for thousands of years before the first advanced civilizations arose in Greece and Egypt around 4000 BCE. These groups would remain fairly isolated until the Kingdom of Byzantium emerged in 25 BCE. The first King was Alexios I, under his rule, the kingdom assimilated many civilizations that inhabited the eastern Mediterranean. The Alexios dynasty would rule The Kingdom for nearly 400 years. In 368 CE King Coriolanus III was assassinated, and replaced by Portia I, a local Duchess. Portia's rule, and that of her successors was exemplified by militarism, harsh taxation, overzealous religious law, and frequent use of the death penalty and horrible methods of torture. The Kingdom, which had been transformed into an empire by 920 CE, would remain under oppressive rule by several dynasties Until 1850, when it became clear the Empire was falling apart. Strict marshal law was put in place after various tribal uprisings in the north and west had overthrown their local Barons, and many frontier provinces were lost to barbarians. By 1892, the communist movement had gained significant support. And by 1904 a brutal civil war broke out. The last Emperor, Plutarch VI, was put to death by the communists in 1915, ending the 11 year war. The Communist party initiated a massive modernization and industrialization program, to bring the newly christened Byzantine Socialist Republic back to the forefront of world affairs and progress. The new party continues to struggle with collectivization. The imposition of State Atheism has caused major religious tensions, resulting in armed uprisings in the northern provinces, and Imperial loyalist holdouts continue to launch guerilla attacks on small villages.

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I know it's not that good, but this will be my second ever RP, So hopefully I'll be accepted. It's really hard to get into RP's when they all ask for examples. I hope to learn from this RP and I promise I won't pull any 1-3 liners.
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Postby Neros » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:39 pm

Nation Name: Raj Hind; Hindustan; Indian Empire;
Symbols: Aum, Swastika, Loom, etc.
Flag:
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Population-homeland: 371,306,000
Population-colonial: N/A

Location/Claims: Here.
Capital City: Hyderabad
Government Type: Unitary Presidential Parliamentary state
Ideology: Liberal Nationalism, Industrialism, Free Trade, Militarism, Mixed Economics

Leader/s: Raj Vijay Sharma Darzi
Economy: $225 Billion. A country that walks the tri-center region of industrial, agrarian, and resource productions, Raj Hind is a jack-of-all trades nation that holds no specialization in a particular field. The economy is large enough to export and fill domestic demand, allowing for increasingly large trade surpluses that are in turned issued back into the economy with the aid of a corrupt-free National Parliament. This has allowed steady and trackable growth, which itself has an advantage over the boom-bust cycles of more westernized and industrial powers. However, this means massive growth is only achievable through quick intervention and economic planning to meet global demands.
Infrastructure: Development in Raj Hind is driven by two parts: The State and the Syndicates. The Syndicates create roads, rails, and ports based on economic demands and profitable supply. The State takes charge of socially beneficial development. Both of these two sides work hand in hand to provide a "decent" system of transportation throughout the nation, however, more populated areas and economically strong areas are far more developed. Overall taking this into account, the entire system could be classified as "Average", despite large trackage and tonnage shipped, it could indeed be better.

Army: A large paper tiger with some bite, 1,000,000 Active, 7,000,000 Reserve forces make an Army built upon strategical mindsets and community development. Training and upkeep makes use of developing rural areas and relieving disaster areas. A rotating volunteer force makes up a portion of militia units, which account for the majority of Reservationists.
Navy: A force that appears weak on paper is much the opposite in actual combat situations, the Raj Hind Navy makes use of smaller combat vessels with increased power and striking ability. This development came as a result of well-educated Naval Officers of the past few decades who saw the development of larger surface vessels with massive firepower to be economically unfeasible, and saw that they were just as weak to smaller vessels in larger numbers as a ship of their own caliber. On top of this, the Navy maintains a strong submarine/u-boat operation and sees it as the future of naval combat. (221 Surface vessels/150 Submarines/100 Auxillary Vessels/200+ Merchant Marine)
Goals:
-Promote Peace and Stability in Asia
-Increase trade volume and impact around the globe
-Modernization, Industrialization, and end the "catching up" to the West
-Uplifting of the poor into consumers
-Ensure defensive and offensive capabilities in the immediate neighborhood.

History:
1556: Akbar the Great becomes Mughal Emperor, consoliating his vast empire and centralizing the administration. Akbar discontinues the practice of Islam within the Mughal elites, aligning himself with the masses and winning the approval of his subjects. A patron of the arts and sciences, he established a massive education system in which his personal library was copied and distributed by "government-sponsored teachers", creating an explosion in culture and literacy within the subcontinent.
1605: Akbar the Great passes away, having expanded his empire from the Indus to the Ganges Delta, to the Tibetan Plateau all the way to Sri Lanka and the Maldives. His legacy would set the precedent for leaders to embrace education as one of the greatest achievements they could leave the next generation.
1674: The Marathas, a class of warriors and landowners, take a firm stand against the Mughal Emperor, Aurangzeb, who was remembered as both an expansionist and being weak-willed to domestic issues. In an effort to avert war, Aurangzeb strikes a deal with the Marathas and other aristocrats in order to establish a Noble Council and relax his own reign.
1700: Several large-scale rebellions are avoided, but some peasant revolts take place due to the Noble Council's unwillingness to compromise with the Mughal Emperor over social issues. Seeking to improve his own standing with the people, Aurangzeb establishes a counter-Council composed of completely randomly selected people form his Empire to oversee the actions of the Noble Council and report. At this time, interaction with Europeans cautiously expands and a transfer of ideas and technology is embraced in coastal trading areas.
1800: The Noble Council becomes elected, the Lords who once sat at their seats must now compete with other upper-class nominees. The Mughal Dynasty dies out - the last Emperor dying without issue, and lacking any heirs or noble families in a position to take the position, the Noble Council becomes the ruling government. Small-scale industries are imported, textile industries expand.
1842: Indian Railway Association is founded by European-educated businessmen, and establishes a connection between Mumbai and parts of the interior. Within a decade, the Noble Council has a dedicated team of engineers, builders, and industrialists to fund development.
1867: The Storming of the Noble Hall takes place, which is a small-scale civil war against Noble authority by the peasant and lower class supplied by the middle and unrepresented upper class against the reigning elites. Brutal public killings and violence draws the blood of half a million Indians, until the nation is re-organized by the Emergency Action Committee. A general conference is held in Delhi to settle the issues of growing industrialization.
1868: The results of the general conference establishes the Raj Hind, Hindu Rule, in which the Hindu-Urdu, being the largest social and ethnic group, create a secular and non-discriminatory government at the insistence of the Bengali representatives in order to avert a succession. Religion has become a non-issue, but a secular government is formed with a strong leader popularly elected and ruling in conjunction with a National Parliament.
1901: The Great Indian War explodes from West Bengal and soon engulfs the subcontinent. Leftist groups composed of Socialists, Communists, and various Red Shirt organizations are pitted against the National Government, Conservative Groups, and Right-leaning local parties. The calamity was put into motion by the expulsion of the "Red Factions" by a hardline extremist Premier, T.H. Mullur, who acted by Parliamentary Order under a perceived threat of coup. Despite evidence to the contrary, the war would last for three years.
1904: The Great Indian War is settled by two events: The Annihilation at Dhaka and the Peace of Naxal. The Annihilation was the end of a prolonged Nationalist siege in which Dhaka, at the time a stronghold for the Red shirts, was completely devastated by a large-scale invasion under the direction of Lt. General V.S. Darzi. The event itself became one of the largest land battles in Asia and, as planned by V.S Darzi, completely took the wind out of the Red shirt cause, allowing them to settle for peace.
1910: War Hero V.S. Darzi is popularly elected as President, and enforces a system of forgiveness and ended many imprisonments of perpetrators of the Great Indian War. A return to civility was the main theme of his initial reign. Industrial reforms were undertaken with foreign investments and leadership. Education reform became one of the greatest accomplishments of the Raj's first term. He would come to be reelected in 1915 and 1920.

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Postby Caltarania » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:29 am

Carathon wrote:The Pope. Bah, that old fool in the white marble castle spewing vile untruths about the Old Gods and promoting the heresy that is the cross-bearing Demon. One day we shall build a pyramid on the banks of the Tiber and rip out his vile, black heart for all the world to see.


-Pulls sword from scabbard-

U wot m8?




Err. You two guys above need to sort something out in regards to claims.

Also because someone is invading Bengal ICly.

EDIT: BRITANNIA HAS TWO 'N'S AND ONLY ONE 'T' DAMMIT.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:41 am

Caltarania wrote:
Carathon wrote:The Pope. Bah, that old fool in the white marble castle spewing vile untruths about the Old Gods and promoting the heresy that is the cross-bearing Demon. One day we shall build a pyramid on the banks of the Tiber and rip out his vile, black heart for all the world to see.


-Pulls sword from scabbard-

U wot m8?




Err. You two guys above need to sort something out in regards to claims.

Also because someone is invading Bengal ICly.

EDIT: BRITANNIA HAS TWO 'N'S AND ONLY ONE 'T' DAMMIT.


I (personally) don't think either of the apps would be accepted; one's a generic communist Pakistan/India while the other is a reformed Mughal empire.
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Postby Caltarania » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:51 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
-Pulls sword from scabbard-

U wot m8?




Err. You two guys above need to sort something out in regards to claims.

Also because someone is invading Bengal ICly.

EDIT: BRITANNIA HAS TWO 'N'S AND ONLY ONE 'T' DAMMIT.


I (personally) don't think either of the apps would be accepted; one's a generic communist Pakistan/India while the other is a reformed Mughal empire.


Mhm. I don't either, but I'll leave it to Buj to decide.
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