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Kargintina
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Postby Kargintina » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:25 pm

What should Norway do next? I don't know what to write IC.

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Kryskov
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Postby Kryskov » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:26 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
But you still need to get it past me, which you will not. End of discussion. I made this clear the first time, I made this clear this second time.

Again, because you kept railing on in the Historical RP Group thread that there would be no AH for major powers. Honestly, I don't see the Soviets agreeing to a long term alliance with the Nazis, who made a point of arresting and killing Communists.[/quote]
I said that there is no AH for ANY nation, meaning all nations start off historically. And historically, the USSR in 1939 could really be in the Axis powers, it was leaning Axis more than Allied at that point. You should probably read the link.

Bujahla wrote:Out goes the concept of lebensraum now.

Anyhow, Reph and I made a deal. I be US. He is Canada. We do IC stuff.

As long as it doesn't involve territorial changes, I'll probably allow it.

And I already know it involves territorial changes because I've told Reph he can't do it in the past.

@Chiata: Accepted. Cause no trouble.

Carathon wrote:Long-term alliance between the Reich and a Communist Russia literally makes no sense, and is incompatible with both's eventual plans.

No one said anything about long term.

Christ, people, why do I have to keep repeating it?

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Bujahla
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Postby Bujahla » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:26 pm

Carathon wrote:Long-term alliance between the Reich and a Communist Russia literally makes no sense, and is incompatible with both's eventual plans.


*nods in agreement*

Now if it's Hitler's intention to make it short term and then backstab him once France and Britain fall, maybe.
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Kryskov
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Postby Kryskov » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:27 pm

Bujahla wrote:
Carathon wrote:Long-term alliance between the Reich and a Communist Russia literally makes no sense, and is incompatible with both's eventual plans.


*nods in agreement*

Now if it's Hitler's intention to make it short term and then backstab him once France and Britain fall, maybe.

I'm pretty sure it is both Stalin and Hitler's intention.

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Bujahla
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Postby Bujahla » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:28 pm

Anyhow, am I allowed to be the US and Reph Canada?

Also, I'm pretty sure "alternate history" means any alteration. Going axis is a pretty big alteration.
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Carathon
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Postby Carathon » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:29 pm

Okay, I'm a tad confused here then. If it's just a short-term alliance, then what's the significant difference between it and the OTL Molotov-Ribbentrop pact?
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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:30 pm

I don't think the Soviets ever would have signed an offensive alliance with the Germans. They always seeemed to be more non-aggression than offensive. The Russians stool nothing to gain from an offensive alliance either, except maybe Finland and the Baltic States which they could kill on their own. I don't see why there would be an offensive alliance, defensive sure, maybe even economic. But offensive? I don't see it happening.

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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:31 pm

Kryskov wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:
But you still need to get it past me, which you will not. End of discussion. I made this clear the first time, I made this clear this second time.

Again, because you kept railing on in the Historical RP Group thread that there would be no AH for major powers. Honestly, I don't see the Soviets agreeing to a long term alliance with the Nazis, who made a point of arresting and killing Communists.

I said that there is no AH for ANY nation, meaning all nations start off historically. And historically, the USSR in 1939 could really be in the Axis powers, it was leaning Axis more than Allied at that point. You should probably read the link.

Bujahla wrote:Out goes the concept of lebensraum now.

Anyhow, Reph and I made a deal. I be US. He is Canada. We do IC stuff.

As long as it doesn't involve territorial changes, I'll probably allow it.

And I already know it involves territorial changes because I've told Reph he can't do it in the past.

@Chiata: Accepted. Cause no trouble.

Carathon wrote:Long-term alliance between the Reich and a Communist Russia literally makes no sense, and is incompatible with both's eventual plans.

No one said anything about long term.

Christ, people, why do I have to keep repeating it?[/quote]
There's a difference between leaning Axis and officially joining the Axis, and joining the Axis means long term military alliance.
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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:32 pm

Bujahla wrote:Anyhow, am I allowed to be the US and Reph Canada?

Also, I'm pretty sure "alternate history" means any alteration. Going axis is a pretty big alteration.


Precisely.

You're worried that earlier independence or political party change in canada will affect the war? How about the primary Participant switching sides? Just because there were talks doesn't mean Stalin actually would've done it, for all we know it was a façade to stay on Hitler's good side.

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Kryskov
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Postby Kryskov » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:37 pm

Bujahla wrote:Anyhow, am I allowed to be the US and Reph Canada?

Also, I'm pretty sure "alternate history" means any alteration. Going axis is a pretty big alteration.

If you apply, I will review it.

It's not AH.

Aldelxane wrote:There's a difference between leaning Axis and officially joining the Axis, and joining the Axis officially means long term.

No, it doesn't.

I'm not addressing this matter anymore. If you want to read the link, then I highly recommend it. If you disagree on the basis of historical accuracy, then you are wrong. If you want to bring up the long-term situation, then that is irrelevant since me and Germany hasn't negotiating an agreement yet. You people are asking questions that a Wikipedia article can answer.

Rephesus wrote:You're worried that earlier independence or political party change in canada will affect the war? How about the primary Participant switching sides? Just because there were talks doesn't mean Stalin actually would've done it, for all we know it was a façade to stay on Hitler's good side.

If you want an RP based off of "for all we know" attitudes, this is not one. For all we know, Hitler could've just wanted Winston Churchill to give him a hug to fulfill some sort of absent daddy issues. Now please, let's move on.

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Benian Republic
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Postby Benian Republic » Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:46 pm

Luna's Leigon can I interest you in costal rights
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Benian Republic
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Postby Benian Republic » Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:47 pm

Benian Republic wrote:Luna's Leigon can I interest you in costal rights


I mean finland
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The Sotoan Union
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:08 am

Poland's inactivity is stalling the RP. Can we boot him?

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KASSRD
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Postby KASSRD » Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:10 am

We have a Poland?

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Lunas Legion
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:29 am

KASSRD wrote:We have a Poland?


Normally I'm Poland. But I'm not. Someone TG whoever Poland is.
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Bujahla
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Postby Bujahla » Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:26 pm

@Kry, any deals I make with Reph will be in the IC and will be dealt with realistically. Also, do I really need to make an app for the USA?
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Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."


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Kryskov
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Postby Kryskov » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:37 pm

Bujahla wrote:@Kry, any deals I make with Reph will be in the IC and will be dealt with realistically. Also, do I really need to make an app for the USA?

Just don't waste your time writing posts about annexation, etc. I'd prefer you'd make one, even if you just copy and paste the previous app.

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Benian Republic
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Postby Benian Republic » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:39 pm

I think that we shoul change our flags for this RP like the person ring french have a french flag and etc
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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:40 pm

Benian Republic wrote:I think that we shoul change our flags for this RP like the person ring french have a french flag and etc


No thanks that is really unneeded. You should be able to tell who is what country based off of their IC posts.

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:42 pm

Just put your nation's flag in the post.

So far is it just France that declared war?

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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:45 pm

Rephesus wrote:Just put your nation's flag in the post.

So far is it just France that declared war?


I think Britain did as well?

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:51 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Rephesus wrote:Just put your nation's flag in the post.

So far is it just France that declared war?


I think Britain did as well?


Didn't he just paste in N. Chamberlain's speech to Parliament? I didn't see anything about declaring war.

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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:52 pm

Rephesus wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
I think Britain did as well?


Didn't he just paste in N. Chamberlain's speech to Parliament? I didn't see anything about declaring war.


He alludes to it when referencing the French (at least that is what I got out of it) but there is no solid yes or no that I can find.

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:56 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Rephesus wrote:
Didn't he just paste in N. Chamberlain's speech to Parliament? I didn't see anything about declaring war.


He alludes to it when referencing the French (at least that is what I got out of it) but there is no solid yes or no that I can find.


Well yes, but it never showed whether the Parliament voted in favour or against war.

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Benian Republic
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Postby Benian Republic » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:59 pm

I would declare war on Poland but I can't can i
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