2060: The Future World. (OOC/PMT/OPEN)

[Carathon]

But Laser based CIWS is going to be relatively widespread considering that the US Military is currently putting them on destroyers. And looking at how the US military is technologically twenty years ahead of it's competitors we're looking at 2034 for wider spread deployment on navel vessels , throw another thirty years on that and you're pretty much set.

Mounted lasers for self-defense systems for things like ships and fortifications are around I'll imagine, but he asked about hand-held lasers and plasma weapons.

[Imperial City-States]

But Laser based CIWS is going to be relatively widespread considering that the US Military is currently putting them on destroyers. And looking at how the US military is technologically twenty years ahead of it's competitors we're looking at 2034 for wider spread deployment on navel vessels , throw another thirty years on that and you're pretty much set.

Mounted lasers for self-defense systems for things like ships and fortifications are around I'll imagine, but he asked about hand-held lasers and plasma weapons.

Well i'm certain that they'd exist but they'd entirely be in the prototype/concept stage. Didn't the OP refer to Fusion cells being miniaturized at some point or was that a rather recent occurrence ? There aren't really any benefits to using a laser as an anti-personnel weapon as you'd have to have constant contact in order to 'burn' though their armor/clothing. Overall you're better off just developing a more advanced propellant and projectile for traditional ballistic weaponry.

[The Emerald Dragon]

Mounted lasers for self-defense systems for things like ships and fortifications are around I'll imagine, but he asked about hand-held lasers and plasma weapons.

Well i'm certain that they'd exist but they'd entirely be in the prototype/concept stage. Didn't the OP refer to Fusion cells being miniaturized at some point or was that a rather recent occurrence ? There aren't really any benefits to using a laser as an anti-personnel weapon as you'd have to have constant contact in order to 'burn' though their armor/clothing. Overall you're better off just developing a more advanced propellant and projectile for traditional ballistic weaponry.

Just get me a minie ball, non of this laser crap.

[Imperial City-States]

Well i'm certain that they'd exist but they'd entirely be in the prototype/concept stage. Didn't the OP refer to Fusion cells being miniaturized at some point or was that a rather recent occurrence ? There aren't really any benefits to using a laser as an anti-personnel weapon as you'd have to have constant contact in order to 'burn' though their armor/clothing. Overall you're better off just developing a more advanced propellant and projectile for traditional ballistic weaponry.

Just get me a minie ball, non of this laser crap.

Well i'd personally prefer Tungsten Armor Piercing Explosive Hollow Points myself.

[The Emerald Dragon]

Just get me a minie ball, non of this laser crap.

Well i'd personally prefer Tungsten Armor Piercing Explosive Hollow Points myself.

I feel so inadequate at points, you and your 82nd Airborne training.

[Imperial City-States]

Well i'd personally prefer Tungsten Armor Piercing Explosive Hollow Points myself.

I feel so inadequate at points, you and your 82nd Airborne training.

Well modern equivalent rounds are usually HEAP , which is High-Explosive-Armor Piercing , basically the outer shell of the round punches though the armor and the inner 'core' smashes into your flesh and detonates ...makes a helluva mess out of your inner goods. Basically adding tungsten on the exterior would give it greater armor piercing capability which allow you to punch though the 2060 era body armor or Exoskeleton's that are going to be present on the battlefield. Would act similar to a HESH round at the same time.

Although a HEAP round for military use currently would be illegal via the Geneva Convention ( like anyone follows it anyway )

[Great Nepal]

Mounted lasers for self-defense systems for things like ships and fortifications are around I'll imagine, but he asked about hand-held lasers and plasma weapons.

Well i'm certain that they'd exist but they'd entirely be in the prototype/concept stage. Didn't the OP refer to Fusion cells being miniaturized at some point or was that a rather recent occurrence ? There aren't really any benefits to using a laser as an anti-personnel weapon as you'd have to have constant contact in order to 'burn' though their armor/clothing. Overall you're better off just developing a more advanced propellant and projectile for traditional ballistic weaponry.

I believe you are overlooking crucial part of warfare: coolness.

[The Emerald Dragon]

I feel so inadequate at points, you and your 82nd Airborne training.

Well modern equivalent rounds are usually HEAP , which is High-Explosive-Armor Piercing , basically the outer shell of the round punches though the armor and the inner 'core' smashes into your flesh and detonates ...makes a helluva mess out of your inner goods. Basically adding tungsten on the exterior would give it greater armor piercing capability which allow you to punch though the 2060 era body armor or Exoskeleton's that are going to be present on the battlefield. Would act similar to a HESH round at the same time.

Although a HEAP round for military use currently would be illegal via the Geneva Convention ( like anyone follows it anyway )

Britain does.

With the.

PCBA

(Politically Correct British Army)

'Playing fair, even when nobody else does, since 1707'

[Imperial City-States]

Well i'm certain that they'd exist but they'd entirely be in the prototype/concept stage. Didn't the OP refer to Fusion cells being miniaturized at some point or was that a rather recent occurrence ? There aren't really any benefits to using a laser as an anti-personnel weapon as you'd have to have constant contact in order to 'burn' though their armor/clothing. Overall you're better off just developing a more advanced propellant and projectile for traditional ballistic weaponry.

I believe you are overlooking crucial part of warfare: coolness.

You could have shit that's infinitely cooler but if it's not effective there's no point in using it.

[The Emerald Dragon]

I believe you are overlooking crucial part of warfare: coolness.

You could have shit that's infinitely cooler but if it's not effective there's no point in using it.

Get me a...

DAVEY JONES ATOMIC RIFLE.

[Imperial City-States]

Well modern equivalent rounds are usually HEAP , which is High-Explosive-Armor Piercing , basically the outer shell of the round punches though the armor and the inner 'core' smashes into your flesh and detonates ...makes a helluva mess out of your inner goods. Basically adding tungsten on the exterior would give it greater armor piercing capability which allow you to punch though the 2060 era body armor or Exoskeleton's that are going to be present on the battlefield. Would act similar to a HESH round at the same time.

Although a HEAP round for military use currently would be illegal via the Geneva Convention ( like anyone follows it anyway )

Britain does.

With the.

PCBA

(Politically Correct British Army)

'Playing fair, even when nobody else does, since 1707'

I mean hell , The American military 'technically' follows the GC but it's usually ignored. Banned Napalm ? We made something much worse to replace it. (polystyrene and FP )

[The Orson Empire]

But Laser based CIWS is going to be relatively widespread considering that the US Military is currently putting them on destroyers. And looking at how the US military is technologically twenty years ahead of it's competitors we're looking at 2034 for wider spread deployment on navel vessels , throw another thirty years on that and you're pretty much set.

Mounted lasers for self-defense systems for things like ships and fortifications are around I'll imagine, but he asked about hand-held lasers and plasma weapons.

I am certain mounted self-defense systems are around, as laser weapons already exist in real life.

[The Orson Empire]

Well i'm certain that they'd exist but they'd entirely be in the prototype/concept stage. Didn't the OP refer to Fusion cells being miniaturized at some point or was that a rather recent occurrence ? There aren't really any benefits to using a laser as an anti-personnel weapon as you'd have to have constant contact in order to 'burn' though their armor/clothing. Overall you're better off just developing a more advanced propellant and projectile for traditional ballistic weaponry.

I believe you are overlooking crucial part of warfare: coolness.

Great Nepal, are you going to reply to my post on the conference thread? We need to get this thing moving. If the New Lowlands is not active, then we will just have to move on without him.

[The Emerald Dragon]

Britain does.

With the.

PCBA

(Politically Correct British Army)

'Playing fair, even when nobody else does, since 1707'

I mean hell , The American military 'technically' follows the GC but it's usually ignored. Banned Napalm ? We made something much worse to replace it. (polystyrene and FP )

The gurkhas though.

They're cool.

Although, i can never pronounce their individual Nepalese names.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-19944833

[Great Nepal]

I believe you are overlooking crucial part of warfare: coolness.

Great Nepal, are you going to reply to my post on the conference thread? We need to get this thing moving. If the New Lowlands is not active, then we will just have to move on without him.

I was waiting for his delegation to arrive before replying; lets wait till tomorrow and then if he hasn't posted we can continue.

[Imperial City-States]

Mounted lasers for self-defense systems for things like ships and fortifications are around I'll imagine, but he asked about hand-held lasers and plasma weapons.

I am certain mounted self-defense systems are around, as laser weapons already exist in real life.

Lasers exist with the most technologically advance military in the Word by twenty years. You can't ignore that part , so basically add twenty years (2034 )and include all of the shitstorms that occurred. You'd be lucky to start PDW trials in the prototype stage let alone even attempting the concept. They wouldn't be all that effective either.

[The Orson Empire]

I am certain mounted self-defense systems are around, as laser weapons already exist in real life.

Lasers exist with the most technologically advance military in the Word by twenty years. You can't ignore that part , so basically add twenty years (2034 )and include all of the shitstorms that occurred. You'd be lucky to start PDW trials in the prototype stage let alone even attempting the concept. They wouldn't be all that effective either.

Yes they would. I am certain that by 2060, nations such as technocracies would be fielding these weapons.

[Galter Gulcher]

So, should I wait for the OP to moderate NU's post, or what.

[The Emerald Dragon]

So, should I wait for the OP to moderate NU's post, or what.

Just wait, or i'll get Maylene and Lucario.

[Imperial City-States]

Lasers exist with the most technologically advance military in the Word by twenty years. You can't ignore that part , so basically add twenty years (2034 )and include all of the shitstorms that occurred. You'd be lucky to start PDW trials in the prototype stage let alone even attempting the concept. They wouldn't be all that effective either.

Yes they would. I am certain that by 2060, nations such as technocracies would be fielding these weapons.

I'm sure they'd exist but it's debatable as to their totally effectiveness considering they'd have to have constant contact for several seconds (seems like a lifetime on the battlefield ) to have any noticeable affect if the target's wearing body armor.

[The Great Korean Empire]

Lasers exist with the most technologically advance military in the Word by twenty years. You can't ignore that part , so basically add twenty years (2034 )and include all of the shitstorms that occurred. You'd be lucky to start PDW trials in the prototype stage let alone even attempting the concept. They wouldn't be all that effective either.

Yes they would. I am certain that by 2060, nations such as technocracies would be fielding these weapons.

I agree with him as laser weapons already exist however I'd think they'd be limited to aircraft, naval vessels, armored vehicles, and military installations. And I'm pretty sure that they'd be more powerful.

[The Orson Empire]

Yes they would. I am certain that by 2060, nations such as technocracies would be fielding these weapons.

I'm sure they'd exist but it's debatable as to their totally effectiveness considering they'd have to have constant contact for several seconds (seems like a lifetime on the battlefield ) to have any noticeable affect if the target's wearing body armor.

It depends on how powerful the laser is.

[Imperial City-States]

I'm sure they'd exist but it's debatable as to their totally effectiveness considering they'd have to have constant contact for several seconds (seems like a lifetime on the battlefield ) to have any noticeable affect if the target's wearing body armor.

It depends on how powerful the laser is.

So you either A) Have an extremely high powered burst and drain your entire power cell in practically one shot or B) have a mid power level weapon that requires 2-3 seconds of contact in order to injury it's target and you actually have *some* sustainability from the magazine.


Also OP do you need me to repost my App ?

[Shnercropolis]

I believe you are overlooking crucial part of warfare: coolness.

Great Nepal, are you going to reply to my post on the conference thread? We need to get this thing moving. If the New Lowlands is not active, then we will just have to move on without him.

What conference thread?

[Great Nepal]

Great Nepal, are you going to reply to my post on the conference thread? We need to get this thing moving. If the New Lowlands is not active, then we will just have to move on without him.

What conference thread?

Conference for prosperity; conference between Republic of Britannia, Federal Republic of Europe and Technocratic republic of America.