A New World: 2015 (Alt History/Open/OOC)

[Winovia]

# and Type of Carriers: 2x Selassie Class (RL base -- Vikrant-class aircraft carrier), 2x Mundo Class(RL Base --> Centaur-class aircraft carrier

Here I am being a downer again, but I think 4 aircraft carriers is a bit much. You don't maintain any overseas holdings and don't project power.

I'm not sure most people fully understand what aircraft carriers are for, they are not tools of defence.

Important Question: Does we haz nukes?

Good question, i'd assume most players would have nuclear weapons, since the world is unstable, but i'd say that they need OP authorization for use. Please don't use them...

1. 2 Carriers for Africa
2. If you want Nukes just let me kniw how many you want and I'll let you know if its acceptable.

Might I be able to reserve the united Arab states? If not, then china?

I'd prefer you be UAS buts its up to you.

[Ptolemais]

2. If you want Nukes just let me kniw how many you want and I'll let you know if its acceptable.

I would like to have about 200-500.

[Gyrenaica]

Here I am being a downer again, but I think 4 aircraft carriers is a bit much. You don't maintain any overseas holdings and don't project power.

I'm not sure most people fully understand what aircraft carriers are for, they are not tools of defence.



Good question, i'd assume most players would have nuclear weapons, since the world is unstable, but i'd say that they need OP authorization for use. Please don't use them...

1. 2 Carriers for Africa
2. If you want Nukes just let me kniw how many you want and I'll let you know if its acceptable.

Might I be able to reserve the united Arab states? If not, then china?

I'd prefer you be UAS buts its up to you.

Ok, this... This ic an do. Not the indochinese thing. My mind= KABOOM. I'll start the app tomorrow. It's my last day of finals.. Then, summer!!!!!!

[Gyrenaica]

So, might the united Arab states be able to have 300 nukes when I make the app.

[Winovia]

2. If you want Nukes just let me kniw how many you want and I'll let you know if its acceptable.

I would like to have about 200-500.

385

I'll have 450, that is the Maximum.

So, might the united Arab states be able to have 300 nukes when I make the app.

You don't have to make an app, I already did; also you can have 255.

viewtopic.php?p=20210141#p20210141

[Ptolemais]

385

I'll have 450, that is the Maximum.

Sounds good. I figure since the Cold War never happened, there wouldn't be a major stockpiling war between USSR and USA

[Gyrenaica]

Official Nation Name: United Arab States
Short Nation Name: Arab States
Population: 315,052,000
Capital: Riyadh
Territory: Middle East (Excluding Egypt & Turkey)

Government Type: Federal Islamic Republic
Head of State: President Shareef Al-Abram
Head of Government: President Shareef Al-Abram
Legislature Type (Unicameral, Bicameral, Tricameral): Bicameral
Upper House: Council of States
Lower House: Council of Representatives
How does your government work: The President serves a life term, and appoints their successor before they die. Usually the successor is the Presidents son, brother, or nephew; and for the past 105 years the Al-Abram family has held the Presidency. The President is the Head of State and Head of Government.

The Upper House of the Islamic Assembly is the Council of States. This Council consist of the Governors of each of the states, as well as their two deputies. The Council of States makes a all major legislative decisions, and decides whether or not legislation goes to the President.

The Lower House is the Council of Representatives. This Council consist of 25 civilian representatives from each of the 6 states. The representatives are nothing more that consultants to the Council of State and the President. They hold no real power, but that of proposing legislation.

Did you participate in World War I? No
What side? N/A
Did you participate in World War II? Yes
What side? Allies
Are you a member of the UN? Yes

History: After the fall of the Ottoman Empire, Saudi Arabia was the strongest state in the Middle East. Having allied with the UK and Republic of America during WWI, to defeat the Ottomans, they received great benefits. These benefits allowed them to sore to new heights, and be the biggest and brightest nation in the Middle East.

King Saud saw the other weak and struggling states as fair game for his new Empire. Acting on these thoughts he managed to invade and capture Yemen and Oman. There was much resistance from the people, and most of them were killed for their resistance. King Saud wanted absolute control and he was determined to get it anyway possible, that is when he began having weekly hangings. After seeing this go on for nearly six months the people got in order and started following the King. The next conquest was that of Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, and Kuwait, which didn't take much from the Saudis.

Now controlling the entire Arabian Peninsula King Saud was still not satisfied, he wanted more. He began building up his military, by forcing all men to serve a compulsory 10 years. Though all nobles were exempt from this. Once the military was of a gargantuan size and had great training' King Saud ordered an attack on Southern Jordan, as the Syrians had already captured the north. The Jordan military was strong, but not strong enough to hold off the Saudis, and after 2 months Jordan was now under Saudi Control.

When World War II hit the remaining states of the Middle East; Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Iran, and Iraq; they banded together to form the United Islamic Alliance. The forming if this military alliance allowed them to be front runners in the Allied Forces; as well as allowing them to protect their land from the Germans.

After the end of the War the State of Israel was created in Syrian Palestine. The Syrians were outraged by this and threatened to retake the are, but the United Nation compensated them to keep them so they would be appeased. The Alliance continued even after the war had ended and evolved into an economic and political alliance between the member states.

Seeing how well the states did as a unified body, all of the State leaders were invited to Saudi Arabia. There they discussed the creation if the Islamic Federation, and all but Iran were for it. The Federation was formed, with each state maintaining autonomy, but having a central government that governed the union, a single currency between them all, and a unified defense force. Eventually Iran and Israel were admitted into the federation.

Over the years the federation became mire integrated and they became the United Arab States. Allowing the central government to have more power, and slightly taking away autinomy from each state.

Well then.... This^

[Graknopia]

Time to start my least favorite part of RP's.. Making the military part of the apps, the long painstaking time to balance a budget with population coupled with the fact that my people train to be in the military

Anywho, Can I have 200 nukes?

[Gyrenaica]

385

I'll have 450, that is the Maximum.

Sounds good. I figure since the Cold War never happened, there wouldn't be a major stockpiling war between USSR and USA

Well then. The world is even more dangerous. More states with nukes and more spread out= well... Fuck

[Gyrenaica]

Air, in the app it stays turkey was in the alliance with Saudi Arab, Syria, etc. But then the area claim doesn't have them...

[Ptolemais]

Well then. The world is even more dangerous. More states with nukes and more spread out= well... Fuck

You would still need to have significant technological capabilities to produce and maintain a nuclear arsenal. Even today, not all states are capable of developing nuclear energy for even peaceful purposes.

[The Emerald Dragon]

Guess what our close combat weapon is, boys!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leiomano

[Unimutani]

I would like to have about 200-500.

385

I'll have 450, that is the Maximum.

So, might the united Arab states be able to have 300 nukes when I make the app.

You don't have to make an app, I already did; also you can have 255.

viewtopic.php?p=20210141#p20210141

I would like to have 85 nuclear warheads, 2100 or so tonnes of chemical weapons stockpiled, and no biological weapons.

Also, If I have 2 active carriers, I intend to have a third mothballed/under construction then. These are light aircraft carriers, and RL multiple nations with GDPs smaller then mine can support far more then me.

[Ptolemais]

Also, If I have 2 active carriers, I intend to have a third mothballed/under construction then. These are light aircraft carriers, and RL multiple nations with GDPs smaller then mine can support far more then me.

RL, the USA is the only country to have more than 2 aircraft carriers. Only three countries have more than 1. Aside from USA, as far as I know they are all light carriers.

http://www.globalfirepower.com/navy-air ... rriers.asp

[Unimutani]

Also, If I have 2 active carriers, I intend to have a third mothballed/under construction then. These are light aircraft carriers, and RL multiple nations with GDPs smaller then mine can support far more then me.

RL, the USA is the only country to have more than 2 aircraft carriers. Only three countries have more than 1. Aside from USA, as far as I know they are all light carriers.

http://www.globalfirepower.com/navy-air ... rriers.asp

This is why I am accepting the 2 carrier judgement. India, who's navy I'm modeling after, has 2 currently, and is building two more (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikrant-class_aircraft_carrier) India's plan is two have 3 active carriers. That's what i'm doing. If adjusted for the fact that my GDP is almost a half a trillion dollars bigger then theirs, you see my argument for 3 carriers. But as I said, I'm accepting 2 active ones, but just be aware that I'm intending for a third to be operational next year (at which point the oldest one will drop out, leaving me again with 2) and by 2024 (if we get that far) I'll have 3 operational.

[Winovia]

Time to start my least favorite part of RP's.. Making the military part of the apps, the long painstaking time to balance a budget with population coupled with the fact that my people train to be in the military

Anywho, Can I have 200 nukes?

Sure

Air, in the app it stays turkey was in the alliance with Saudi Arab, Syria, etc. But then the area claim doesn't have them...

I meant to take it out of the app

385

I'll have 450, that is the Maximum.



You don't have to make an app, I already did; also you can have 255.

viewtopic.php?p=20210141#p20210141

I would like to have 85 nuclear warheads, 2100 or so tonnes of chemical weapons stockpiled, and no biological weapons.

Also, If I have 2 active carriers, I intend to have a third mothballed/under construction then. These are light aircraft carriers, and RL multiple nations with GDPs smaller then mine can support far more then me.

85 sounds good to me

[Winovia]

RL, the USA is the only country to have more than 2 aircraft carriers. Only three countries have more than 1. Aside from USA, as far as I know they are all light carriers.

http://www.globalfirepower.com/navy-air ... rriers.asp

This is why I am accepting the 2 carrier judgement. India, who's navy I'm modeling after, has 2 currently, and is building two more (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikrant-class_aircraft_carrier) India's plan is two have 3 active carriers. That's what i'm doing. If adjusted for the fact that my GDP is almost a half a trillion dollars bigger then theirs, you see my argument for 3 carriers. But as I said, I'm accepting 2 active ones, but just be aware that I'm intending for a third to be operational next year (at which point the oldest one will drop out, leaving me again with 2) and by 2024 (if we get that far) I'll have 3 operational.

Is your military less than 1% of your pop.

[Unimutani]

This is why I am accepting the 2 carrier judgement. India, who's navy I'm modeling after, has 2 currently, and is building two more (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikrant-class_aircraft_carrier) India's plan is two have 3 active carriers. That's what i'm doing. If adjusted for the fact that my GDP is almost a half a trillion dollars bigger then theirs, you see my argument for 3 carriers. But as I said, I'm accepting 2 active ones, but just be aware that I'm intending for a third to be operational next year (at which point the oldest one will drop out, leaving me again with 2) and by 2024 (if we get that far) I'll have 3 operational.

Is your military less than 1% of your pop.

Yes

Also, (i know your busy... ) but what's going on with the Summit?

[Ptolemais]

Yes

Also, (i know your busy... ) but what's going on with the Summit?

I too look forward to getting the summit underway. Looks like it's going to be good

[Winovia]

Is your military less than 1% of your pop.

Yes

Also, (i know your busy... ) but what's going on with the Summit?

Sorry, posting right now.

[Ptolemais]

Sorry, posting right now.

Let the games begin. I'll try and get a post up tonight

[Bolovia]

Winovia what would you say if the HR didn't agree to the Non-Agression pact with certain members of the G5?

[Ptolemais]

Winovia what would you say if the HR didn't agree to the Non-Agression pact with certain members of the G5?

You would miss a chance at becoming a member of the most powerful alliance in the world so you can get into a war with Cambria over some petty islands?

Well, I guess we could call it the G4

[Unimutani]

Winovia what would you say if the HR didn't agree to the Non-Agression pact with certain members of the G5?

You would miss a chance at becoming a member of the most powerful alliance in the world so you can get into a war with Cambria over some petty islands?

Well, I guess we could call it the G4

^^^ If that happens, I would like to propose that the G4 stay neutral.

[Cymrea]

Cambria proposes 350 nukes, right up behind American Republic and Japan.

I plan to spend some time and effort attempting to hash out some kind of deal with the Hispanic representative whereby Falklands remains Cambrian, and HR gets to save face at home while gaining some kind of economic boost that might even actually support the folks in South America. That could certainly get him legitimately re-elected.

Also: With the second Cambrian supercarrier coming on line, the UKC would be willing to part with the HMS Illustrious, particularly as a bargaining chip, or like the modern equivalent of making a noble daughter available for a diplomatic marriage.