History of Empires II (OOC, OPEN)

[Kryskov]

I preseum colonization has not happened?

[Rephesus]

I preseum colonization has not happened?

Just started. Iberia just grabbed Western Sahara, Vikiings just got to vinland.

[Neo-Assyrian Empire]

I preseum colonization has not happened?

Not yet, really. Except for two cases, like Rephesus just said.

[Kryskov]

I preseum colonization has not happened?

Not yet, really. Except for two cases, like Rephesus just said.

I presume all other European nations are fairly active?

[Rephesus]

And I guess you could call my claiming the Bahamas colonization, but it isn't like we went a ship full of settlers, just natural migration ....

[Neo-Assyrian Empire]

Not yet, really. Except for two cases, like Rephesus just said.

I presume all other European nations are fairly active?

With the exception of Alsace-Lorraine and the Baltics, yeah, they're mostly active.

[Rephesus]

Do I get my "most active nation in the New World" medal now, or...?

[Kryskov]

I presume all other European nations are fairly active?

With the exception of Alsace-Lorraine and the Baltics, yeah, they're mostly active.

Everything is feudal or no?

[The Emerald Dragon]

In about 1680, i think i'm going to send a convoy of ships to South Africa and set up an independent nation. Which i'll then roleplay as.

[Neo-Assyrian Empire]

Do I get my "most active nation in the New World" medal now, or...?

Yeah, considering you're really the only nation there.

With the exception of Alsace-Lorraine and the Baltics, yeah, they're mostly active.

Everything is feudal or no?

No one has really said. I presume that it is, though.

[Rephesus]

In about 1680, i think i'm going to send a convoy of ships to South Africa and set up an independent nation. Which i'll then roleplay as.

You picked the only part of Africa that's fully claimed...

[Kryskov]

I'll probably stay as Swelind, then. I'll likely focus on building a navy and such, then doing some colonies about 1600 and be friendly to Buj.

[Rephesus]

I'll probably stay as Swelind, then. I'll likely focus on building a navy and such, then doing some colonies about 1600 and be friendly to Buj.

Colonies? Not in the new world I hope.

[Kryskov]

I'll probably stay as Swelind, then. I'll likely focus on building a navy and such, then doing some colonies about 1600 and be friendly to Buj.

Colonies? Not in the new world I hope.

Uh...

[Relikai]

Byzantines never exceeded 26 million, and I don't know why no one's talking back about that inflated numbers when everyone's all up on arms against Relikai. Biased much?

And why are his expansions on white neutral lands still going unchecked even when Horus himself brought it up in a case? Op, Co-ops, what are you all doing?

1. The Byzantines were at their height in 565 AD. There were more people in 1300 than 565. I have more land in 1300 than the Byzantines did in 1300. Ergo, I'll have a higher population than a real one did.
2. Everyone who borders me is inactive other than Galnius, who just popped back in recently. And as soon as he popped back in, we started discussing a PVP war. I wasn't going to stop expanding because of a lack of active players bordering my nation.

So don't comment negatively about the situation when clearly you don't have all the facts, okay?

That population and land is with the East and West empires combined, and it's 26 million at max. So I'm sure there is a case when data is there to be found, and you may have more land, but those lands are not the same as Italy and Carthage, if you want to play that card.

[Neo-Assyrian Empire]

In about 1680, i think i'm going to send a convoy of ships to South Africa and set up an independent nation. Which i'll then roleplay as.

Prepare your army, then, because you're gonna have some fierce resistance in the only major nation in Africa outside of the Mediterranean...

I'll probably stay as Swelind, then. I'll likely focus on building a navy and such, then doing some colonies about 1600 and be friendly to Buj.

You can probably try to pull off something like the Kalmar Union with Buj and become Super Sweden/Norway/Denmark/Scandinavia.

Also, how would you like for a powerful warrior guild friendly man like this to visit your nation's capital? Sorry that it's hard to read...

[Rephesus]

Colonies? Not in the new world I hope.

Uh...

Don't mind me, just planning my invasion and colonization of Iberia and Scandinavia.

[Bujahla]

Can we please talk about how their is somehow a kingdom in south africa that's the size of half of the United States of America....

[Redemption-America]

1. The Byzantines were at their height in 565 AD. There were more people in 1300 than 565. I have more land in 1300 than the Byzantines did in 1300. Ergo, I'll have a higher population than a real one did.
2. Everyone who borders me is inactive other than Galnius, who just popped back in recently. And as soon as he popped back in, we started discussing a PVP war. I wasn't going to stop expanding because of a lack of active players bordering my nation.

So don't comment negatively about the situation when clearly you don't have all the facts, okay?

That population and land is with the East and West empires combined, and it's 26 million at max. So I'm sure there is a case when data is there to be found, and you may have more land, but those lands are not the same as Italy and Carthage, if you want to play that card.

The 26 million was from 565. The Western Empire had been gone for 100 years. The Byzantines obviously included some former Western lands, but nowhere close to all of them. And, again, there were less total people in 565 than there were in 1300.

I got my data purely from censuses/historical data about various parts of the Bzyantine Empire in 1300, along with the surrounding areas. I'm not powergaming, the ~31 million makes sense for the land I hold with the HOE timeline the way it is.

Also, sidenote, Galnius and I agreed on 17 million for Yrtip.

[Rephesus]

Can we please talk about how their is somehow a kingdom in south africa that's the size of half of the United States of America....

Well, Russia was pretty huge too, doesn't mean it's all populated. Think about it, only one group that is advanced enough, with no competition in the area, yes they are probably severely behind in tech due to a lack of people to exchange ideas with, but that said they are easily the South African hegemon, South Africa was dominated by the Zulu before, had they been more advanced than their rivals and had the adequate resources, I'm sure they could've taken that. That said, they are probably very unstable due to rival tribes.

The reason we all aren't that big simply is because many of us aren't active and don't post expansions, some do (Just look at Iberia..)

[Bujahla]

Can we please talk about how their is somehow a kingdom in south africa that's the size of half of the United States of America....

Well, Russia was pretty huge too, doesn't mean it's all populated. Think about it, only one group that is advanced enough, with no competition in the area, yes they are probably severely behind in tech due to a lack of people to exchange ideas with, but that said they are easily the South African hegemon, South Africa was dominated by the Zulu before, had they been more advanced than their rivals and had the adequate resources, I'm sure they could've taken that. That said, they are probably very unstable due to rival tribes.

The reason we all aren't that big simply is because many of us aren't active and don't post expansions, some do (Just look at Iberia..)

Well I do intend to colonize the shit out of it.

[Rephesus]

Maybe I should go colonize Ire and Albion? Imagine that, AztecMayan Britannia.

[Bujahla]

Maybe I should go colonize Ire and Albion? Imagine that, AztecMayan Britannia.

Imagine Vikings colonizing Central America.

[Rephesus]

Maybe I should go colonize Ire and Albion? Imagine that, AztecMayan Britannia.

Imagine Vikings colonizing Central America.

Central America shall never be colonized! Hands off greedy imperialists!

Plus they'd melt.

[Neo-Assyrian Empire]

Maybe I should go colonize Ire and Albion? Imagine that, AztecMayan Britannia.

Imagine Vikings colonizing Central America.

The Scots tried that once. That's why they're with England now.