History of Empires II (OOC, OPEN)

[Relikai]

But you do have my former territory as sovereign land right?

Don't know what used to be yours...

If for any reason you aren't using all of the land I sold to Allen due to internal issues, it might just be in my interests to claim them back since they are considered 'unclaimed', and sold from Allen.

And reserving the 3 NPC nations in Europe for aggressive expansion of my nation in 1814(today)

More specifically, the Blue east of France, and the 2 NPCs east of it.

[Redemption-America]

you are most welcome

Cool! I will take a look at the OP to see what's open

The map claims thread (linked in the OP) has a more up to date map, I posted it on page 5 (our official mapmaker is on vacation).

[Fortunagen]

Don't know what used to be yours...

If for any reason you aren't using all of the land I sold to Allen due to internal issues, it might just be in my interests to claim them back since they are considered 'unclaimed', and sold from Allen.

And reserving the 3 NPC nations in Europe for aggressive expansion of my nation in 1814(today)

More specifically, the Blue east of France, and the 2 NPCs east of it.

Probably not a good idea, as I'm about to go rawr military and conquer your coastal territory by any means nessecary, as you happen to be sitting on some prime agricultural territory and my little two provinces need to feed the refugee population. How many people do you have living in that little province, anyway?

[The V O I D]

Nation Name: Русская Эмпайр ("Ruzzian Empire")
Capital City: Mascrow
Government Type: Imperial Dictatorship: The Government is run by the Emperor and royal officials.
Head of State: Emperor Viktor Chekovich
Claimed Territory: The Purple in Russia
State/National Religion: Humanism: The belief that Humans in themselves are 'gods' incarnate, and when they die they are freed from their mortal vessels.
Dominant Religion: Humanism.
Minority Religion(s): Very minor cults that have no names, or are unknown to the government.
Population: 70 million (can lower/raise if needed.)
Military Organization: Смерть Всадники ("Death Riders")
Military Size: 700 thousand soldiers.
Fleet Size: None to speak of- there's not much water.
National Flag:
Primary Culture: Ruzzian (culture, language, etc.)
Accepted Cultures: Ruzzian, minor Western (as in, European)
Primary Import(s): Armor, Weapons, Various Vegetables/Fruits, among other things.
Primary Export(s): Arms [Weapons/Armor], and Fur.
Trade Policy: Allied Trade: Only trade with allied nations.
Civil Freedoms: Very Few: Only pureblood Ruzzians are given all rights.
Brief Description of your nation's History: The Ruzzian Empire was forged through the blood and fires of many villages, as well as being a fairly large Empire. The Ruzzian Empire was founded based on Humanism. Humanism is an extreme Ruzzian belief, and those who disgrace it are often, if not, always executed. The Ruzzian Empire was forged through war, and therefor, the life of a Ruzzian is war. Ruzzians are happy to die in war, whether it be fighting for their honor, country, or some other reason. As long as they die fighting and with dignity, Ruzzians will greet death with a wide grin, because they believe they become Gods after they die. Ruzzians have very strong moral in battle, therefor. This is why Ruzzians are under a strict, disciplinary government, and how the Empire got to it's size today. It has remained this way due to the fact everyone takes Humanism as serious as any other nation would take their's.
Brief Description of your nation's economy: The Ruzzian's economy is based on war and furtrades. They make weapons and fur coats to survive in the harsh, cold environment wherein the Empire has declared it's threshold. Thus, the Ruzzians consider better or bigger weapons as equal trade. They also accept gold and silver for currency. The Ruzzian Empire is a middle-class nation, wherein everyone appears to be equal. At least, as long as they're Purebred Ruzzian.
Brief Description of your nation's government: The Ruzzian government is ruled by the iron-fist Emperor. He does not take any form of disrespect or mocking, and considers even the slightest look at him in the wrong way to be a crime. Therefor, when the Ruzzian Emperor wants something done, it gets done. If it doesn't, any civilians or soldiers that failed in getting the job done are immediately beheaded. This is a fear-rule.
Brief Description of your nation's populace: The Ruzzian people are happy, relatively. Purebred Ruzzians live the glorious life, while hybrid Ruzzians and non-Ruzzians are often forced to take the worst jobs or into slave labor. Not much else.
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

[Kanilion]

If for any reason you aren't using all of the land I sold to Allen due to internal issues, it might just be in my interests to claim them back since they are considered 'unclaimed', and sold from Allen.

And reserving the 3 NPC nations in Europe for aggressive expansion of my nation in 1814(today)

More specifically, the Blue east of France, and the 2 NPCs east of it.

Probably not a good idea, as I'm about to go rawr military and conquer your coastal territory by any means nessecary, as you happen to be sitting on some prime agricultural territory and my little two provinces need to feed the refugee population. How many people do you have living in that little province, anyway?

Unfortunately for you, the land sold to Allen and you is bound to give me produce for the next 200 years till year 2000. So if nothing is coming out of it, I will go on and retake it by diplomatic means and waving the treaty in your faces.

About 5,000 men there pre-war ?

[Fortunagen]

Probably not a good idea, as I'm about to go rawr military and conquer your coastal territory by any means nessecary, as you happen to be sitting on some prime agricultural territory and my little two provinces need to feed the refugee population. How many people do you have living in that little province, anyway?

Unfortunately for you, the land sold to Allen and you is bound to give me produce for the next 200 years till year 2000. So if nothing is coming out of it, I will go on and retake it by diplomatic means and waving the treaty in your faces.

About 5,000 men there pre-war ?

Are you a puppet of Rel?

[Kanilion]

Unfortunately for you, the land sold to Allen and you is bound to give me produce for the next 200 years till year 2000. So if nothing is coming out of it, I will go on and retake it by diplomatic means and waving the treaty in your faces.

About 5,000 men there pre-war ?

Are you a puppet of Rel?

I'm Independant, after this war concludes that is.

[Fortunagen]

Are you a puppet of Rel?

I'm Independant, after this war concludes that is.

What? I'm asking OOCly if you're Rel or not..

[Kanilion]

I'm Independant, after this war concludes that is.

What? I'm asking OOCly if you're Rel or not..

LOL!! No. What made you think that

Hey Rel, stay in France, I'll handle Burma since it's post 1800. Fort's confused by you butting in here.

[Fortunagen]

What? I'm asking OOCly if you're Rel or not..

LOL!! No. What made you think that

You were like, answering about his land for him? Or did I misread something..

[Kanilion]

LOL!! No. What made you think that

You were like, answering about his land for him? Or did I misread something..

Because his land is my land. If you see the map claim his post has the segregation of his European territories from the overseas one. We're still in a time bubble so it's 1 player's land for now but effectively owned by 2. Mind blown-yes.

[Fortunagen]

You were like, answering about his land for him? Or did I misread something..

Because his land is my land. If you see the map claim his post has the segregation of his European territories from the overseas one. We're still in a time bubble so it's 1 player's land for now but effectively owned by 2. Mind blown-yes.

Wait, what?

[Kanilion]

Because his land is my land. If you see the map claim his post has the segregation of his European territories from the overseas one. We're still in a time bubble so it's 1 player's land for now but effectively owned by 2. Mind blown-yes.

Wait, what?

Lets just wait till Rel comes back, then he'll laugh, Facepalm and explain things out for both of us... And bitch about the IC being stagnant he puts his revolution up already.

[Relikai]

Hi Fort, the land is under Kanilion from now on.

Besides, when did Allen formally sell you the land? When did you move down? How did a bunch of refugees build a palace, and where did the 50 years come from?

There is no IC statement regarding the trade at all, what am I supposed to assume ?

10th August - 1780, the map in the claims thread noted the future split between Relikai and RVC, including final expansions in Burma. Map makers please take note, thanks.

No purchases were supposed to be made Before the stipulated date of 1780, as OOC agreements without IC posts (not even the offer for purchase, in which the buyer cannot delay even when he posts days later) have no value. Allen may have proposed it, but there is just no substance, and now the land which I had, is being used by others even as I pass it on to Kanilion.

The earliest I'll allow its backdate is to 1800. Fort will have 14 years to secure his land.

[Altito Asmoro]

Is it possible for me to say, when I return to here in September, that I will be able to modernize, albeit at a smaller scale with the aid of Japanese?

[Relikai]

Is it possible for me to say, when I return to here in September, that I will be able to modernize, albeit at a smaller scale with the aid of Japanese?

I guarentee that whether you win or lose the war you will be on par with us on tech

[Fortunagen]

Hi Fort, the land is under Kanilion from now on.

Besides, when did Allen formally sell you the land? When did you move down? How did a bunch of refugees build a palace, and where did the 50 years come from?

There is no IC statement regarding the trade at all, what am I supposed to assume ?

10th August - 1780, the map in the claims thread noted the future split between Relikai and RVC, including final expansions in Burma. Map makers please take note, thanks.

No purchases were supposed to be made Before the stipulated date of 1780, as OOC agreements without IC posts (not even the offer for purchase, in which the buyer cannot delay even when he posts days later) have no value. Allen may have proposed it, but there is just no substance, and now the land which I had, is being used by others even as I pass it on to Kanilion.

The earliest I'll allow its backdate is to 1800. Fort will have 14 years to secure his land.

The war with Allen where I "won" the land from him ended in the 13th century. Allen told me he had the land, that's all I knew and frankly that all I cared about. If it wasn't his to sell you should take that up with him, because frankly I find it ridiculous you care about the three provinces that make up my entire nation when you have territories on every single continent. I'm sure you'll still have plenty of land to give Kil.

[Bujahla]

Hi Fort, the land is under Kanilion from now on.

Besides, when did Allen formally sell you the land? When did you move down? How did a bunch of refugees build a palace, and where did the 50 years come from?

There is no IC statement regarding the trade at all, what am I supposed to assume ?

10th August - 1780, the map in the claims thread noted the future split between Relikai and RVC, including final expansions in Burma. Map makers please take note, thanks.

No purchases were supposed to be made Before the stipulated date of 1780, as OOC agreements without IC posts (not even the offer for purchase, in which the buyer cannot delay even when he posts days later) have no value. Allen may have proposed it, but there is just no substance, and now the land which I had, is being used by others even as I pass it on to Kanilion.

The earliest I'll allow its backdate is to 1800. Fort will have 14 years to secure his land.

The war with Allen where I "won" the land from him ended in the 13th century. Allen told me he had the land, that's all I knew and frankly that all I cared about. If it wasn't his to sell you should take that up with him, because frankly I find it ridiculous you care about the three provinces that make up my entire nation when you have territories on every single continent. I'm sure you'll still have plenty of land to give Kil.

Don't try compromising with him. He don't give to shits about others when it comes to land.

[Relikai]

The war with Allen where I "won" the land from him ended in the 13th century. Allen told me he had the land, that's all I knew and frankly that all I cared about. If it wasn't his to sell you should take that up with him, because frankly I find it ridiculous you care about the three provinces that make up my entire nation when you have territories on every single continent. I'm sure you'll still have plenty of land to give Kil.

Don't try compromising with him. He don't give to shits about others when it comes to land.

Haha why, because your attempted purchase of New World land which is out of my jurisdiction turned sour for you? Maybe I'll have a word with Kan, if you tread carefully.

Besides I was okay with the deal until Someone decided to act all big and mighty to take over that land, and well, BACKDATING DETECTED!!. If deals are needed to be IC-supported, similar to technological inventions or they never existed, wont an IC agreement regarding transfer of land be necessary?

[Bujahla]

Don't try compromising with him. He don't give to shits about others when it comes to land.

Haha why, because your attempted purchase of New World land which is out of my jurisdiction turned sour for you? Maybe I'll have a word with Kan, if you tread carefully.

Besides I was okay with the deal until Someone decided to act all big and mighty to take over that land, and well, BACKDATING DETECTED!!. If deals are needed to be IC-supported, similar to technological inventions or they never existed, wont an IC agreement regarding transfer of land be necessary?

Well when I asked it was still under your jurisdiction and I was asking if we could work on a story line so that I obtained it during your conflict with the RVC. Like support one side and get it as a reward.

Anyhow, not necessarily. It depends on what you agree on. If you agree to back date it, no IC agreement necessary. Deals don't need to be IC-supported, neither does technology, technically. If you are claiming to be first, then yes, but if you are claiming to start using a technology that's been around, then it doesn't need to be in the IC. Deals can be made OOCly and then summed up in the IC.

[Relikai]

Haha why, because your attempted purchase of New World land which is out of my jurisdiction turned sour for you? Maybe I'll have a word with Kan, if you tread carefully.

Besides I was okay with the deal until Someone decided to act all big and mighty to take over that land, and well, BACKDATING DETECTED!!. If deals are needed to be IC-supported, similar to technological inventions or they never existed, wont an IC agreement regarding transfer of land be necessary?

Well when I asked it was still under your jurisdiction and I was asking if we could work on a story line so that I obtained it during your conflict with the RVC. Like support one side and get it as a reward.

Anyhow, not necessarily. It depends on what you agree on. If you agree to back date it, no IC agreement necessary. Deals don't need to be IC-supported, neither does technology, technically. If you are claiming to be first, then yes, but if you are claiming to start using a technology that's been around, then it doesn't need to be in the IC. Deals can be made OOCly and then summed up in the IC.

I'll look into that. From what I know your purchase would just end Kanilion's plans in America... like end, totally, end. Thats why hes pretty adamant about rejecting your mappings. Anyway I'm not going to be in a conflict with the RVC. In fact its the RVC that is going to ensure my nation's survival lol.

But about that land, its still fact that I only took it in the 1700s, and that is 400 years after Fort's end of the war. No doubt I still have to develop the land and make it so that it is profitable to loan/sell, so 1800 is the selling date due to the final conquest AND the split of my nation, of which a Burma deal isnt agreed on yet.

From Map Claims Thread -
Postby Relikai » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:23 pm
http://i.imgur.com/lv4Yezr.jpg

If you take reference to that map and the OOC proceedings, I have Willingly sold land to Allen and Fort, agreed with Kan to give Ethiopia to Jordslag for him to re-app (If hes still even here). So if its compromise with land you're talking about, I think that statement can be corrected somewhat.

Conclusion - Land sold to Allen, 1800 right after RVC split. Period.

[Fortunagen]

Okay, enough is enough. Really, if my two provinces are that much of an issue to your one-hundred and seven(I actually counted) I seriously think you need to re-evaluate your attitude towards this RP. This isn't a competition, this is about enjoying alternate history and telling a cool story, and it would really make the RP more enjoyable for everyone if you just let it go and went on roflstomping NPCs. Mmmk? K.

[Relikai]

Okay, enough is enough. Really, if my two provinces are that much of an issue to your one-hundred and seven(I actually counted) I seriously think you need to re-evaluate your attitude towards this RP. This isn't a competition, this is about enjoying alternate history and telling a cool story, and it would really make the RP more enjoyable for everyone if you just let it go and went on roflstomping NPCs. Mmmk? K.

Whatever. I'm done. Backdate and shortchange yourself all you want. Guess this is what the RP suffers when I treat others nicely.

[Alleniana]

Hi Fort, the land is under Kanilion from now on.

Besides, when did Allen formally sell you the land? When did you move down? How did a bunch of refugees build a palace, and where did the 50 years come from?

There is no IC statement regarding the trade at all, what am I supposed to assume ?

10th August - 1780, the map in the claims thread noted the future split between Relikai and RVC, including final expansions in Burma. Map makers please take note, thanks.

No purchases were supposed to be made Before the stipulated date of 1780, as OOC agreements without IC posts (not even the offer for purchase, in which the buyer cannot delay even when he posts days later) have no value. Allen may have proposed it, but there is just no substance, and now the land which I had, is being used by others even as I pass it on to Kanilion.

The earliest I'll allow its backdate is to 1800. Fort will have 14 years to secure his land.

The war with Allen where I "won" the land from him ended in the 13th century. Allen told me he had the land, that's all I knew and frankly that all I cared about. If it wasn't his to sell you should take that up with him, because frankly I find it ridiculous you care about the three provinces that make up my entire nation when you have territories on every single continent. I'm sure you'll still have plenty of land to give Kil.

Well, I acquired the land as a gift from him, so it's sort of bad manners to do that...

Is there any other way to work with this?

Since Relikai did sell (though for a really fairly cheap price IMO) the land to me, but clearly not selling that province, if Mividu attempts to claim it, it'd have to do so via war, and that would probably go very badly for them.

[Rephesus]

Allenstan Smash, rororo

Also, what's the situation with Mexico? I've been waiting for weeks.