History of Empires II (OOC, OPEN)

[Alleniana]

Well, you could try, but it wouldn't be very successful, I suspect; we've slowly increased our hold over the vassals during our tenure, and it's backed up by a hell of a big army.

But... what is a big army to the guerillas of freedom?

That sort of thing would normally work, except that we have the manpower to do genocide to most of southern India.

[Lithuanian Empire]

But... what is a big army to the guerillas of freedom?

That sort of thing would normally work, except that we have the manpower to do genocide to most of southern India.

Well, here's my idea:
1. Sassinia makes a group of rebels, led by a charismatic leader.
2. They vandalize through Southern India, demanding freedom.
3. Allen sends in troops and destroys the rebels.
4. Sassinia goes guerilla warfare, then leaves unnoticed, leaving people thinking: what happened to them? And are they still there?
5. Many years later, Hollywood makes a badass CGI filled movie about their history, depictimg the rebels as badass good guys and your leaders as evil.

And you know where Hollywood will be based in? In Baltica.

[Alleniana]

That sort of thing would normally work, except that we have the manpower to do genocide to most of southern India.

Well, here's my idea:
1. Sassinia makes a group of rebels, led by a charismatic leader.
2. They vandalize through Southern India, demanding freedom.
3. Allen sends in troops and destroys the rebels.
4. Sassinia goes guerilla warfare, then leaves unnoticed, leaving people thinking: what happened to them? And are they still there?
5. Many years later, Hollywood makes a badass CGI filled movie about their history, depictimg the rebels as badass good guys and your leaders as evil.

And you know where Hollywood will be based in? In Baltica.

Last time, Hollywood was in Pagir, in Bermuda I think. Bermuda or Iceland.

Anyway, I'd be fine with rebels, it's just that they're not going to do very much ultimately.

[Lithuanian Empire]

Well, here's my idea:
1. Sassinia makes a group of rebels, led by a charismatic leader.
2. They vandalize through Southern India, demanding freedom.
3. Allen sends in troops and destroys the rebels.
4. Sassinia goes guerilla warfare, then leaves unnoticed, leaving people thinking: what happened to them? And are they still there?
5. Many years later, Hollywood makes a badass CGI filled movie about their history, depictimg the rebels as badass good guys and your leaders as evil.

And you know where Hollywood will be based in? In Baltica.

Last time, Hollywood was in Pagir, in Bermuda I think. Bermuda or Iceland.

Anyway, I'd be fine with rebels, it's just that they're not going to do very much ultimately.

Oh well. I'm also planning to discover TV, railroads, microwaves, sliced bread, The Internet, progressism (our communism), satellites, the Hubble Space Telescope, Apollo, NationStates, History of Empires, nuclear fission, nuclear fusion, nanotechnology, console gaming, PC gaming, computers and more. You know, scientific victory stuff.

And Sassinia, don't name your leader with a very long name, like Arkhabadidja Nahusuberhammanishusa. People don't like it.

[Alleniana]

Last time, Hollywood was in Pagir, in Bermuda I think. Bermuda or Iceland.

Anyway, I'd be fine with rebels, it's just that they're not going to do very much ultimately.

Oh well. I'm also planning to discover TV, railroads, microwaves, sliced bread, The Internet, progressism (our communism), satellites, the Hubble Space Telescope, Apollo, NationStates, History of Empires, nuclear fission, nuclear fusion, nanotechnology, console gaming, PC gaming, computers and more. You know, scientific victory stuff.

And Sassinia, don't name your leader with a very long name, like Arkhabadidja Nahusuberhammanishusa. People don't like it.

kden

I hope you don't mean to actually discover them all, because you're going to have competition well fierce enough for you to not achieve it.

[Lithuanian Empire]

Oh well. I'm also planning to discover TV, railroads, microwaves, sliced bread, The Internet, progressism (our communism), satellites, the Hubble Space Telescope, Apollo, NationStates, History of Empires, nuclear fission, nuclear fusion, nanotechnology, console gaming, PC gaming, computers and more. You know, scientific victory stuff.

And Sassinia, don't name your leader with a very long name, like Arkhabadidja Nahusuberhammanishusa. People don't like it.

kden

I hope you don't mean to actually discover them all, because you're going to have competition well fierce enough for you to not achieve it.

I plan to discover at least half of them, as it seems many people don't really care about half of these.
Right now, Baltica has first invented:
Crop rotation
Watermills
Printing press
Writing (debatable)
Amber stuffs
Mechanical clocks
National epics
Standartized grammar
Maybe something more

[Alleniana]

kden

I hope you don't mean to actually discover them all, because you're going to have competition well fierce enough for you to not achieve it.

I plan to discover at least half of them, as it seems many people don't really care about half of these.
Right now, Baltica has first invented:
Crop rotation
Watermills
Printing press
Writing (debatable)
Amber stuffs
Mechanical clocks
National epics
Standartized grammar
Maybe something more

I'm pretty sure I invented printing press first, and what constitutes a "national epic" and "standardised grammar" is debatable (I had some very early rulers declaring that certain things were to be pronounced a certain way, for example). I'm also iffy on crop rotation.

[Lithuanian Empire]

I plan to discover at least half of them, as it seems many people don't really care about half of these.
Right now, Baltica has first invented:
Crop rotation
Watermills
Printing press
Writing (debatable)
Amber stuffs
Mechanical clocks
National epics
Standartized grammar
Maybe something more

I'm pretty sure I invented printing press first, and what constitutes a "national epic" and "standardised grammar" is debatable (I had some very early rulers declaring that certain things were to be pronounced a certain way, for example). I'm also iffy on crop rotation.

Printing press yours, you say?
Link to post or it didn't happen. I discovered it in early 1500s in my summing up post.

[Sassinia]

What should I name my rebel group? Any ideas?

[Lithuanian Empire]

What should I name my rebel group? Any ideas?

How about "The Order of South [whatever we call India in this RP]"

[Alleniana]

I'm pretty sure I invented printing press first, and what constitutes a "national epic" and "standardised grammar" is debatable (I had some very early rulers declaring that certain things were to be pronounced a certain way, for example). I'm also iffy on crop rotation.

Printing press yours, you say?
Link to post or it didn't happen. I discovered it in early 1500s in my summing up post.

search.php?keywords=printing&t=285480&sf=msgonly

What should I name my rebel group? Any ideas?

Will it be in my language?
(I have impressed my language as business/lingua franca tongue in my vassals, and even home tongue in some)

[Finland SSR]

Printing press yours, you say?
Link to post or it didn't happen. I discovered it in early 1500s in my summing up post.

search.php?keywords=printing&t=285480&sf=msgonly

What should I name my rebel group? Any ideas?

Will it be in my language?
(I have impressed my language as business/lingua franca tongue in my vassals, and even home tongue in some)

It looks like I was still first.
Baltic - 1466
Ruzojo? - 1500-1600s

EDIT: Dammit, logged into the wrong account again.

[Alleniana]

search.php?keywords=printing&t=285480&sf=msgonly
Will it be in my language?
(I have impressed my language as business/lingua franca tongue in my vassals, and even home tongue in some)

It looks like I was still first.
Baltic - 1466
Ruzojo? - 1500-1600s

EDIT: Dammit, logged into the wrong account again.

Yeah, but your post was backdated. I posted mine 10 days before you.

[Lithuanian Empire]

It looks like I was still first.
Baltic - 1466
Ruzojo? - 1500-1600s

EDIT: Dammit, logged into the wrong account again.

Yeah, but your post was backdated. I posted mine 10 days before you.

I don't really care.

However, we can assume that the same creation appeared in two separate places with no interaction between them, and that we both invented the printing press, just that it so happened that I was first, but you are still important.

[Alleniana]

Yeah, but your post was backdated. I posted mine 10 days before you.

I don't really care.

However, we can assume that the same creation appeared in two separate places with no interaction between them, and that we both invented the printing press, just that it so happened that I was first, but you are still important.

>.>
I'm pretty sure that backdating isn't allowed when it forces an earlier post to be different, e.g. a battle's beginning being RPed and then the other side creating a backdated post that their army actually never went there. Otherwise people could not post for 1000 years, say, and then backdate a post to say that they had actually been producing a resource that nobody else produced since 100 years ago, suddenly creating a "nah nah you have to edit your last century's posts because you've suddenly no income"

[Rephesus]

I just want to say I'm really proud of Allen I didn't think it was possible, but it seems he's managed to create his Indian superstate after all. I was almost certain it would be invaded and partitioned like it usually is, but I conceded, Allen is a very skilled planner, so good for you man you deserve an HOE Medal

[Lithuanian Empire]

I don't really care.

However, we can assume that the same creation appeared in two separate places with no interaction between them, and that we both invented the printing press, just that it so happened that I was first, but you are still important.

>.>
I'm pretty sure that backdating isn't allowed when it forces an earlier post to be different, e.g. a battle's beginning being RPed and then the other side creating a backdated post that their army actually never went there. Otherwise people could not post for 1000 years, say, and then backdate a post to say that they had actually been producing a resource that nobody else produced since 100 years ago, suddenly creating a "nah nah you have to edit your last century's posts because you've suddenly no income"

But in this, it doesn't force to change an earlier post. There have been many instances where different civilizations discover the same thing without even knowing that the other already did it.

[Rephesus]

Meh... Less common now that we have global trade routes. For example Zia invented Dry Docks and Canal locking based off ports In Italy and Spain, yet we discovered writing long before the Europeans came.

[Alleniana]

>.>
I'm pretty sure that backdating isn't allowed when it forces an earlier post to be different, e.g. a battle's beginning being RPed and then the other side creating a backdated post that their army actually never went there. Otherwise people could not post for 1000 years, say, and then backdate a post to say that they had actually been producing a resource that nobody else produced since 100 years ago, suddenly creating a "nah nah you have to edit your last century's posts because you've suddenly no income"

But in this, it doesn't force to change an earlier post. There have been many instances where different civilizations discover the same thing without even knowing that the other already did it.

But we probably did... assuming that the printing press didn't fade into obscurity, we would've heard of it within the decade.

I just want to say I'm really proud of Allen I didn't think it was possible, but it seems he's managed to create his Indian superstate after all. I was almost certain it would be invaded and partitioned like it usually is, but I conceded, Allen is a very skilled planner, so good for you man you deserve an HOE Medal

I'm quite happy as well. I was almost certain that I'd never find a way to get the nice rounded borders in the Himalayas when Quirina got the vassal, Fort clung on and Relikai invaded Burma, and I was worried about Byzantines in Sri Lanka, Orson for a while and possible colonial conquerors, but they all sort of faded away.

It feels nice. Now all I've to do is annex the vassals, perhaps battle Sassinia's guerillas for a bit, and then jump onto the international stage; some African or Australian colonies would be interesting.

[Rephesus]

The one interesting thing is how few different cultures and religions India has ITTL. OTL it was widely considered a Global Birthplace of languages and cultures and religions, as some of the worlds largest religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism) all stated in India, along with multiple different languages, it's interesting to see how a stronger Indus civilization could eventually go on to rule the subcontinent.

I do have to wonder if you intend on becoming the Indian Ocean hegemon, taking Sumatra and Tibet, or the Strait or Hormuz, or expanding into Persia. I have high hopes for this nation.

[Sassinia]

Nation Name: The Order of the South
Capital City: Jaykinmari (Present-day Kanyakumari)
Government Type: Rebel Group
Head of State: Sherhain Mirq
Claimed Territory: The southern tip of India, obviously.
State/National Religion: idk, What's the major religion in the rest of India?
Dominant Religion: ^^
Minority Religion(s): ^^
Population: 2,000 rebels
Military Organization: ^^
Military Size: ^^
Fleet Size: 20 small boats, equipped with stolen cannons.
National Flag: [will come later]
Primary Culture: Rest of India
Accepted Cultures: ^^
Primary Import(s): None
Primary Export(s): None
Trade Policy: None
Civil Freedoms: It's a rebel group, goddamit

Brief Description of your nation's History: After [Yellow Indian Nation]'s expansion into the south, and the vassalization of the southern kingdoms, there was a mass uprising. a group of people banded together to form what is known today as the "Order of the South" . They have swelled from 30 men to 2,000 strong now, and they will fight for the freedom of the south.
Brief Description of your nation's economy: N/A
Brief Description of your nation's government: N/A
Brief Description of your nation's populace: Rebels

RP Example: (Not necessary if you've been in HoM or HoE before)
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

[Sassinia]

One question: is Sri Lanka also a vassal, or independent?

[Rephesus]

Incase you haven't noticed, Allen controls Nepal. Meaning Gurkhas. Meaning you're screwed.

[Lithuanian Empire]

Hey Sassinia!
How about you fight not only for freedom for the South, but also a democratic government for Ruzojo?

[Rephesus]

Hey Sassinia!
How about you fight not only for freedom for the South, but also a democratic government for Ruzojo?

It's a bit early for democratic ideals In South Asia. That didn't start until the early 20th century.