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The New Sea Territory
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu May 15, 2014 5:32 pm

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If Stalin could do it, so could Nickolas. Ukrainians are going to starve because of your actions.


At the same time, Stalin did it before WW2. He didn't just fight a war that killed 30 Million Russians.


At the same time, the USSR just got out of a Civil War that lasted 2 years and did kill over 2 Million People only 10 years before. I can still do it. :)[/quote]

Huge difference between a civil war that kills 2 million, mostly the losing faction, and a war that kills 30 million Russians in general.
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Postby Elderowa » Thu May 15, 2014 5:36 pm

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Fine. I'll just have to think of something else to deal with the Revolt. But We can definitely take it.

Also, Not all 30 Million Russians who died in Russia during the Great War where Russians. It includes the likes of the Poles, the Mongols, some Turks, and of course the Ukrainians. So you're population declined to, it wasn't just ours.


I'm reminded of the American government and Japanese citizens in California.


Internment camps might work, but maintaining them for the long run will be hard, and that could/would radicalize them more.

Still, it's more acceptable and less radicalizing then Starvation. I'll think about it...

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Postby The Victorian Empire » Thu May 15, 2014 5:43 pm

Power went out, luckily it's back on.

I sifted through some stuff, and ultimately just got bored and decided to answer the stuff Austria was spewing.

First off, you have Trieste. That's it. You do not have north Trentino. You never did. I fixed the map to give you Trieste, but you never had Trentino. Mars already said that.

Secondly, it wouldn't just be me against you. Albania wants Montenegro, and I'm sure Serbobulgaria or the Serbian rebels would love Vojvodina. So it wouldn't just be me VS you. Also, my people wouldn't nearly be as pissed. I'm spitting nationalist rhetoric and promising Italiano Irredentismo. Basically, I'm pulling a Mussolini without the Fascism part. I'm also going to try and improve my military before invading rightful Italian lands and liberating the Italian people subject to the fiendish rule of Austria-Hungary.

Also, can someone link me to the Bengal map so see what he claimed? I lost it somewhere back there.
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Postby Marsisian » Thu May 15, 2014 5:44 pm

The Victorian Empire wrote:Power went out, luckily it's back on.

I sifted through some stuff, and ultimately just got bored and decided to answer the stuff Austria was spewing.

First off, you have Trieste. That's it. You do not have north Trentino. You never did. I fixed the map to give you Trieste, but you never had Trentino. Mars already said that.

Secondly, it wouldn't just be me against you. Albania wants Montenegro, and I'm sure Serbobulgaria or the Serbian rebels would love Vojvodina. So it wouldn't just be me VS you. Also, my people wouldn't nearly be as pissed. I'm spitting nationalist rhetoric and promising Italiano Irredentismo. Basically, I'm pulling a Mussolini without the Fascism part. I'm also going to try and improve my military before invading rightful Italian lands and liberating the Italian people subject to the fiendish rule of Austria-Hungary.

Also, can someone link me to the Bengal map so see what he claimed? I lost it somewhere back there.

http://i.imgur.com/RTxSMrs.png
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The Victorian Empire
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Postby The Victorian Empire » Thu May 15, 2014 5:50 pm

Marsisian wrote:
The Victorian Empire wrote:Power went out, luckily it's back on.

I sifted through some stuff, and ultimately just got bored and decided to answer the stuff Austria was spewing.

First off, you have Trieste. That's it. You do not have north Trentino. You never did. I fixed the map to give you Trieste, but you never had Trentino. Mars already said that.

Secondly, it wouldn't just be me against you. Albania wants Montenegro, and I'm sure Serbobulgaria or the Serbian rebels would love Vojvodina. So it wouldn't just be me VS you. Also, my people wouldn't nearly be as pissed. I'm spitting nationalist rhetoric and promising Italiano Irredentismo. Basically, I'm pulling a Mussolini without the Fascism part. I'm also going to try and improve my military before invading rightful Italian lands and liberating the Italian people subject to the fiendish rule of Austria-Hungary.

Also, can someone link me to the Bengal map so see what he claimed? I lost it somewhere back there.

http://i.imgur.com/RTxSMrs.png


Thanks, Mars.
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Postby Elderowa » Thu May 15, 2014 5:53 pm

The Victorian Empire wrote:Power went out, luckily it's back on.

I sifted through some stuff, and ultimately just got bored and decided to answer the stuff Austria was spewing.

First off, you have Trieste. That's it. You do not have north Trentino. You never did. I fixed the map to give you Trieste, but you never had Trentino. Mars already said that.

Secondly, it wouldn't just be me against you. Albania wants Montenegro, and I'm sure Serbobulgaria or the Serbian rebels would love Vojvodina. So it wouldn't just be me VS you. Also, my people wouldn't nearly be as pissed. I'm spitting nationalist rhetoric and promising Italiano Irredentismo. Basically, I'm pulling a Mussolini without the Fascism part. I'm also going to try and improve my military before invading rightful Italian lands and liberating the Italian people subject to the fiendish rule of Austria-Hungary.


Although I have given my word to the Pope not to Intervene in this war, I will not simply let you and the Serbians try to invade Austria. I will be sending weapons, money and Generals to my Austrian Buddy to aid him in his war if war is your determined course.

I suggest you and AH have a conference on this situation. I also suggest you listen to Russia's warnings...

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Postby Marsisian » Thu May 15, 2014 5:54 pm

Pope, sent a letter to you in the IC.
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Thu May 15, 2014 5:57 pm

I dunno how I will respond to you yet, Mars. One the one hand, Russia just handed over the Holy Land to HH. Which is pretty important along with a rather large donation to the Catholic Relief Service. I might just send you humanitarian aid should violence break out, how you use the money is up to you, just don't let HH find out, he would not be very happy.

In regards to the Italian-Austrian Crisis, a peace conference is in the works.

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Postby Kargintina » Thu May 15, 2014 5:57 pm

In my next post i need to talk to the Pope,i want to recognised as well,as i am a fully Catholic nation

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Postby The Victorian Empire » Thu May 15, 2014 5:57 pm

Elderowa wrote:
The Victorian Empire wrote:Power went out, luckily it's back on.

I sifted through some stuff, and ultimately just got bored and decided to answer the stuff Austria was spewing.

First off, you have Trieste. That's it. You do not have north Trentino. You never did. I fixed the map to give you Trieste, but you never had Trentino. Mars already said that.

Secondly, it wouldn't just be me against you. Albania wants Montenegro, and I'm sure Serbobulgaria or the Serbian rebels would love Vojvodina. So it wouldn't just be me VS you. Also, my people wouldn't nearly be as pissed. I'm spitting nationalist rhetoric and promising Italiano Irredentismo. Basically, I'm pulling a Mussolini without the Fascism part. I'm also going to try and improve my military before invading rightful Italian lands and liberating the Italian people subject to the fiendish rule of Austria-Hungary.


Although I have given my word to the Pope not to Intervene in this war, I will not simply let you and the Serbians try to invade Austria. I will be sending weapons, money and Generals to my Austrian Buddy to aid him in his war if war is your determined course.

I suggest you and AH have a conference on this situation. I also suggest you listen to Russia's warnings...


I don't want violent confrontation either. And that is intervening.
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Postby The Victorian Empire » Thu May 15, 2014 5:58 pm

Kargintina wrote:In my next post i need to talk to the Pope,i want to recognised as well,as i am a fully Catholic nation


Your Poland, right? What territories do you own?
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Postby Kargintina » Thu May 15, 2014 5:58 pm

The Victorian Empire wrote:
Kargintina wrote:In my next post i need to talk to the Pope,i want to recognised as well,as i am a fully Catholic nation


Your Poland, right? What territories do you own?

Mainly the Warsaw area,all of Russian-contolled poland in this time period,A-H and Germany own the rest
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Postby Elderowa » Thu May 15, 2014 5:59 pm

The Victorian Empire wrote:
Elderowa wrote:
Although I have given my word to the Pope not to Intervene in this war, I will not simply let you and the Serbians try to invade Austria. I will be sending weapons, money and Generals to my Austrian Buddy to aid him in his war if war is your determined course.

I suggest you and AH have a conference on this situation. I also suggest you listen to Russia's warnings...


I don't want violent confrontation either. And that is intervening.


He doesn't want me sending in troops, but he never said anything about Money, Arms and Advisors. :D

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Postby Marsisian » Thu May 15, 2014 5:59 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:I dunno how I will respond to you yet, Mars. One the one hand, Russia just handed over the Holy Land to HH. Which is pretty important along with a rather large donation to the Catholic Relief Service. I might just send you humanitarian aid should violence break out, how you use the money is up to you, just don't let HH find out, he would not be very happy.

In regards to the Italian-Austrian Crisis, a peace conference is in the works.

Wait, they just handed it over? We'll give you Byzantium even though it holds no significance.
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Postby Elderowa » Thu May 15, 2014 6:00 pm

Marsisian wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:I dunno how I will respond to you yet, Mars. One the one hand, Russia just handed over the Holy Land to HH. Which is pretty important along with a rather large donation to the Catholic Relief Service. I might just send you humanitarian aid should violence break out, how you use the money is up to you, just don't let HH find out, he would not be very happy.

In regards to the Italian-Austrian Crisis, a peace conference is in the works.

Wait, they just handed it over? We'll give you Byzantium.


Russia completely owns Byzantium, as Michael Romanov (Look him up, he's the real brother of Nickolas II) owns Byzantia while Russia owns Anatolia and Constantinople. We gave the Pope those lands to make him like us.

Plus, why would the Pope want all of Byzantium? He just wanted the Holy Cities for Religious purposes; ruling Byzantium would be too much of a hassle for him...
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Postby Marsisian » Thu May 15, 2014 6:02 pm

Elderowa wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Wait, they just handed it over? We'll give you Byzantium.


Russia completely owns Byzantium, as Michael Romanov (Look him up, he's the real brother of Nickolas II) owns Byzantia while Russia owns Anatolia and Constantinople. We gave the Pope those lands to make him like us.

Plus, why would the Pope want all of Byzantium? He just wanted the Holy Cities for Religious purposes; ruling Byzantium would be too much of a hassle for him...

No, Constantinople.
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Postby The Victorian Empire » Thu May 15, 2014 6:03 pm

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I don't want violent confrontation either. And that is intervening.


He doesn't want me sending in troops, but he never said anything about Money, Arms and Advisors. :D


That's still intervening.
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Postby The Victorian Empire » Thu May 15, 2014 6:04 pm

Elderowa wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Wait, they just handed it over? We'll give you Byzantium.


Russia completely owns Byzantium, as Michael Romanov (Look him up, he's the real brother of Nickolas II) owns Byzantia while Russia owns Anatolia and Constantinople. We gave the Pope those lands to make him like us.

Plus, why would the Pope want all of Byzantium? He just wanted the Holy Cities for Religious purposes; ruling Byzantium would be too much of a hassle for him...


Byzantium isn't the Holy Land...
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Thu May 15, 2014 6:04 pm

Marsisian wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:I dunno how I will respond to you yet, Mars. One the one hand, Russia just handed over the Holy Land to HH. Which is pretty important along with a rather large donation to the Catholic Relief Service. I might just send you humanitarian aid should violence break out, how you use the money is up to you, just don't let HH find out, he would not be very happy.

In regards to the Italian-Austrian Crisis, a peace conference is in the works.

Wait, they just handed it over? We'll give you Byzantium even though it holds no significance.


It was more of a "let's bribe the pope with the Holy Land". Pretty good leverage on his end of the deal. You still have Bengal, Japan, and Poland who could intervene with the Russians and you could launch your offensive then.

Besides, the Papal State does maintain and policy of neutrality, especially in Civil Wars. This is however changed if mass genocide is committed. Which would be met with condemnations. And, if it is against Catholics, the petitioning of Catholic Europe to intervene and defend their Catholic brothers and sisters.

Also, isn't the Russian capital now Constantinople/Istanbul? I'd imagine you'd have fun taking that.
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Postby Elderowa » Thu May 15, 2014 6:06 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Elderowa wrote:
Russia completely owns Byzantium, as Michael Romanov (Look him up, he's the real brother of Nickolas II) owns Byzantia while Russia owns Anatolia and Constantinople. We gave the Pope those lands to make him like us.

Plus, why would the Pope want all of Byzantium? He just wanted the Holy Cities for Religious purposes; ruling Byzantium would be too much of a hassle for him...

No, Constantinople.


What do you mean? Your statement has me confused... :meh:

The Victorian Empire wrote:
Elderowa wrote:
Russia completely owns Byzantium, as Michael Romanov (Look him up, he's the real brother of Nickolas II) owns Byzantia while Russia owns Anatolia and Constantinople. We gave the Pope those lands to make him like us.

Plus, why would the Pope want all of Byzantium? He just wanted the Holy Cities for Religious purposes; ruling Byzantium would be too much of a hassle for him...


Byzantium isn't the Holy Land...


Exactly! When I refer to Byzantium, I'm referring to the Ottoman Empire/Former Byzantine Empire, which we completely took over from the Great war, then split up into Russian Held Anatolia and the Russian Ruled puppet state of Byzantia, which has to deal with Muslims. The Pope would have too many problems ruling Byzantium; the Muslims, the Influx of Russians, that sliver of land where Bedouins roam we don't own. Too much for him.

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Also, isn't the Russian capital now Constantinople/Istanbul? I'd imagine you'd have fun taking that.


It isn't yet, but we intend to make it our Capital. Right now, the Hagia Sophia is being Re-Orthodoxied and a new Castle is being built there. :)
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Postby Marsisian » Thu May 15, 2014 6:07 pm

Elderowa wrote:
Marsisian wrote:No, Constantinople.


What do you mean? Your statement has me confused... :meh:

The Victorian Empire wrote:
Byzantium isn't the Holy Land...


Exactly! When I refer to Byzantium, I'm referring to the Ottoman Empire/Former Byzantine Empire, which we completely took over from the Great war, then split up into Russian Held Anatolia and the Russian Ruled puppet state of Byzantia, which has to deal with Muslims. The Pope would have too many problems ruling Byzantium; the Muslims, the Influx of Russians, that sliver of land where Bedouins roam we don't own. Too much for him.

Byzantium is another name for Constantinople.
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Postby Marsisian » Thu May 15, 2014 6:08 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Wait, they just handed it over? We'll give you Byzantium even though it holds no significance.


It was more of a "let's bribe the pope with the Holy Land". Pretty good leverage on his end of the deal. You still have Bengal, Japan, and Poland who could intervene with the Russians and you could launch your offensive then.

Besides, the Papal State does maintain and policy of neutrality, especially in Civil Wars. This is however changed if mass genocide is committed. Which would be met with condemnations. And, if it is against Catholics, the petitioning of Catholic Europe to intervene and defend their Catholic brothers and sisters.

Also, isn't the Russian capital now Constantinople/Istanbul? I'd imagine you'd have fun taking that.

No, actually. The Russian capital's Moscow or Saint Petersburg, as it always has been.
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Thu May 15, 2014 6:09 pm

Elderowa wrote:Exactly! When I refer to Byzantium, I'm referring to the Ottoman Empire/Former Byzantine Empire, which we completely took over from the Great war, then split up into Russian Held Anatolia and the Russian Ruled puppet state of Byzantia, which has to deal with Muslims. The Pope would have too many problems ruling Byzantium; the Muslims, the Influx of Russians, that sliver of land where Bedouins roam we don't own. Too much for him.


Keep in mind HH isn't even ruling Jerusalem. He is sending the camerlengo to set up a papal provisional government while an agreement with the Jewish leaders as to how to govern the region is being reached. The region will basically be fully autonomous and run by, preferably, a council of five Catholics and five Jews. That way the Holy Land is under the protection of the Papacy but does not feel oppressed at all by the Catholic Church.

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Postby Elderowa » Thu May 15, 2014 6:10 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Elderowa wrote:
What do you mean? Your statement has me confused... :meh:



Exactly! When I refer to Byzantium, I'm referring to the Ottoman Empire/Former Byzantine Empire, which we completely took over from the Great war, then split up into Russian Held Anatolia and the Russian Ruled puppet state of Byzantia, which has to deal with Muslims. The Pope would have too many problems ruling Byzantium; the Muslims, the Influx of Russians, that sliver of land where Bedouins roam we don't own. Too much for him.

Byzantium is another name for Constantinople.


Oh, when you say Byzantium, you mean the City, but I was thinking of the Empire...

My mistake! :D

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Postby Dangelia » Thu May 15, 2014 6:10 pm

Name of your Rebel Group: Liberate Jerusalem (Освободить Иерусалим)
Country that you are rebelling in: Russia
Base of Operations: Moscow
Number of Followers/Members: 400,000
Why you are rebelling: To take Jerusalem back from the Pope
Popular support: Extremeley large support from the people of Russia and the entire Orthodox world.
Quality of Weapons, from 1 to 10: 4
Short history of your Group: The Orthodox were appalled when they heard that Russia had given away Jerusalem to the Vatican. They fear that their Christian churches will be seized by the Catholics.
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