1905 AH RP: The Aftermath of a Great War (OOC/Open)

[The Victorian Empire]

hehehe exactly i wonder why

Because it's Austrian.

So where does it go?

Ah ha! I found the difference. I should not have any part of Poland that Austria gained in RL.

Marsisian, I think it might be best if you don't be AH (Hungarian) Empire; Too much is built up into an AH Empire, not a Hungarian One. You'll basically ruin the first three pages of this RP by doing that...

No, just stop, I'm not reverting the map. I've already made the changes. To reverse now would be a waste of the changes.

[Marsisian]

Hmm.... I know that's my claims... but it just doesn't look like the actual Habsburg empire in 1699....

I mean, you did a good job, but that's just my nitpicking mind talking... sorry.

I shall watch the video again and look for differences.

You could release Bosnia and the rest of Romania as client states?

The Peasants where unhappy because the Czars where retarded idiots who knew nothing about ruling Russia. My Czars did not, and will not, make the same mistake. For example, I'll actually allow Alloted Land to be sold and rented; I'll end Censorship; if push comes to shove, I'll voluntarily make a Duma and allow it to have great powers. Plus, we didn't loose 4 wars in a row!

So please, take this "Very Unstable" talk and throw it away, please...

That has nothing to do with any of the points I just made at all. Like at all. Plus, you WILL do that. The coup is happening in like late January of 1905. So what you WILL do does not matter, because what you HAVE done is pissed off your people by giving away thousands of other Russians to the papacy. You have four, I think five actually if Dangelia's rebel group was ever accepted, rebel groups in your country. That is four, possibly five. And you are telling me Russia is not unstable?

I found the difference in land, it was Poland, so yes, Bosnia and Romania are client states. Nominally independent but secretly controlled by us.

[Elderowa]

Hmm.... I know that's my claims... but it just doesn't look like the actual Habsburg empire in 1699....

I mean, you did a good job, but that's just my nitpicking mind talking... sorry.

I shall watch the video again and look for differences.

You could release Bosnia and the rest of Romania as client states?

The Peasants where unhappy because the Czars where retarded idiots who knew nothing about ruling Russia. My Czars did not, and will not, make the same mistake. For example, I'll actually allow Alloted Land to be sold and rented; I'll end Censorship; if push comes to shove, I'll voluntarily make a Duma and allow it to have great powers. Plus, we didn't loose 4 wars in a row!

So please, take this "Very Unstable" talk and throw it away, please...

That has nothing to do with any of the points I just made at all. Like at all. Plus, you WILL do that. The coup is happening in like late January of 1905. So what you WILL do does not matter, because what you HAVE done is pissed off your people by giving away thousands of other Russians to the papacy. You have four, I think five actually if Dangelia's rebel group was ever accepted, rebel groups in your country. That is four, possibly five. And you are telling me Russia is not unstable?

That's funny, we're in February now, and I don't see any massive revolts so...

2 Have already been dealt with, the third one is not even after me (It's after Jerusalem), and the Fourth One will be dealt with easily. I don't know what the Fifth one is...

[The Victorian Empire]

You could release Bosnia and the rest of Romania as client states?



That has nothing to do with any of the points I just made at all. Like at all. Plus, you WILL do that. The coup is happening in like late January of 1905. So what you WILL do does not matter, because what you HAVE done is pissed off your people by giving away thousands of other Russians to the papacy. You have four, I think five actually if Dangelia's rebel group was ever accepted, rebel groups in your country. That is four, possibly five. And you are telling me Russia is not unstable?

I found the difference in land, it was Poland, so yes, Bosnia and Romania are client states. Nominally independent but secretly controlled by us.

So what happens to the Polish land?

[Marsisian]

Because it's Austrian.

So where does it go?

Marsisian, I think it might be best if you don't be AH (Hungarian) Empire; Too much is built up into an AH Empire, not a Hungarian One. You'll basically ruin the first three pages of this RP by doing that...

No, just stop, I'm not reverting the map. I've already made the changes. To reverse now would be a waste of the changes.

It's a remnant of the Habsburg Monarchy that is a puppet of us.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

I disagree with Eld's claims, here is why:

1. The only thing Austria did was interact with the Pope and Italy over land disputes.
2.Hungary originally got the union over Austria, I believe. So if the Austria leaning emperor is overthrown in a coup why is this is implausible?
3.The majority of the Great War fought in A-H was in Hungarian lands (Yes it was in Croatia but Croatia was mainly part of Hungary before A-H happened)
4. The only thing it does is take away Russia's only ally. And if Russia played nice with the new government instead of trying to kill it chances are Hungary would be your ally too.

[Elderowa]

Screw it, I'm out. Too much has changed now, it isn't what I signed up for, I'm done.

Have fun.

EDIT: Also, I give Kargintina Russia (Or Extended Poland).

[Marsisian]

I disagree with Eld's claims, here is why:

1. The only thing Austria did was interact with the Pope and Italy over land disputes.
2.Hungary originally got the union over Austria, I believe. So if the Austria leaning emperor is overthrown in a coup why is this is implausible?
3.The majority of the Great War fought in A-H was in Hungarian lands (Yes it was in Croatia but Croatia was mainly part of Hungary before A-H happened)
4. The only thing it does is take away Russia's only ally. And if Russia played nice with the new government instead of trying to kill it chances are Hungary would be your ally too.

Yeah, not much has changed except the fact that Hungary's allied with Russia, not Austria.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Screw it, I'm out. Too much has changed now, it isn't what I signed up for, I'm done.

Have fun.

I strongly disagree with you and think you're actually too prematurely over the entire situation. Instead of discussing the topic civilly with everyone else you have played the "Russia is perfect stable Jesus country who can stop anything ever" card or just threw your hands up and refused to compromise. I think you should reconsider, but if you are opposed to it, so be it. Thank you for participating.

[The Victorian Empire]

Screw it, I'm out. Too much has changed now, it isn't what I signed up for, I'm done.

Have fun.

EDIT: Also, I give Kargintina Russia (Or Extended Poland).

Wow, nice ragequit.

[Marsisian]

God, why does everyone try to give their entire nation to another player when they leave.. it's just insanely unrealistic.

[The Victorian Empire]

Anyway, here's the latest map: http://i.imgur.com/L2ixwyI.png

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Well, unless we get a new Russia this RP is basically screwed.

[Marsisian]

Well, unless we get a new Russia this RP is basically screwed.

We really do need a new Russia.

[Elderowa]

Screw it, I'm out. Too much has changed now, it isn't what I signed up for, I'm done.

Have fun.

I strongly disagree with you and think you're actually too prematurely over the entire situation. Instead of discussing the topic civilly with everyone else you have played the "Russia is perfect stable Jesus country who can stop anything ever" card or just threw your hands up and refused to compromise. I think you should reconsider, but if you are opposed to it, so be it. Thank you for participating.

I have had this discussion already. No one wants to hear it. I'm not saying Russia is perfect; it isn't. Alot of the Country is backwards, yes; alot of the Country is ethnically different, yes; the Country isn't democratic, yes; the Country only got lucky in the Great War, oh hell yes. But I have tried to fix it, I've been working on it both IC and in my App. But no, people cry, that's not enough, the Country is still on the verge of Collapse!

I try to deal with Revolutionaries by Compromising; "Russia is on the Verge of Collapse!"

I introduce reforms to make the Intellectuals and the Peasants Happy; "It's only a matter of weeks!"

I give the Holy lands to the Pope to avoid a second Great war; "The Russians are Blind Idiots who can't see it's a good thing!"

And now I loose my only ally in the whole game due to Marsisian, that's it, it's done. I've lost enjoyment in this RP!

[Kahlenberg]

Screw it, I'm out. Too much has changed now, it isn't what I signed up for, I'm done.

Have fun.

I strongly disagree with you and think you're actually too prematurely over the entire situation. Instead of discussing the topic civilly with everyone else you have played the "Russia is perfect stable Jesus country who can stop anything ever" card or just threw your hands up and refused to compromise. I think you should reconsider, but if you are opposed to it, so be it. Thank you for participating.

As a neutral bystander I must say that I can understand his position and his frustration. A lot of decisions were made for him or were made without his consent. Is it fair to keep accepting Russian rebel groups, for example, without consultation of the player playing Russia? He has a valid point that the original opening post stated nothing about an independent Hungary as well. And I agree with him that Russian intervention in the case of an Austrian-Hungarian civil war would have been both possible and even plausible. It's not like his entire army would have been tied up back home because of a few rebels.

[The Victorian Empire]

Anyway, here's the latest map: http://i.imgur.com/L2ixwyI.png

[Marsisian]

I strongly disagree with you and think you're actually too prematurely over the entire situation. Instead of discussing the topic civilly with everyone else you have played the "Russia is perfect stable Jesus country who can stop anything ever" card or just threw your hands up and refused to compromise. I think you should reconsider, but if you are opposed to it, so be it. Thank you for participating.

I have had this discussion already. No one wants to hear it. I'm not saying Russia is perfect; it isn't. Alot of the Country is backwards, yes; alot of the Country is ethnically different, yes; the Country isn't democratic, yes; the Country only got lucky in the Great War, oh hell yes. But I have tried to fix it, I've been working on it both IC and in my App. But no, people cry, that's not enough, the Country is still on the verge of Collapse!

I try to deal with Revolutionaries by Compromising; "Russia is on the Verge of Collapse!"

I introduce reforms to make the Intellectuals and the Peasants Happy; "It's only a matter of weeks!"

I give the Holy lands to the Pope to avoid a second Great war; "The Russians are Blind Idiots who can't see it's a good thing!"

And now I loose my only ally in the whole game due to Marsisian, that's it, it's done. I've lost enjoyment in this RP!

I'm saying this again, you haven't lost an ally! We're your ally or at least on good terms!

[Marsisian]

Anyway, here's the latest map: http://i.imgur.com/L2ixwyI.png

Nice.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

I strongly disagree with you and think you're actually too prematurely over the entire situation. Instead of discussing the topic civilly with everyone else you have played the "Russia is perfect stable Jesus country who can stop anything ever" card or just threw your hands up and refused to compromise. I think you should reconsider, but if you are opposed to it, so be it. Thank you for participating.

I have had this discussion already. No one wants to hear it. I'm not saying Russia is perfect; it isn't. Alot of the Country is backwards, yes; alot of the Country is ethnically different, yes; the Country isn't democratic, yes; the Country only got lucky in the Great War, oh hell yes. But I have tried to fix it, I've been working on it both IC and in my App. But no, people cry, that's not enough, the Country is still on the verge of Collapse!

I try to deal with Revolutionaries by Compromising; "Russia is on the Verge of Collapse!"

I introduce reforms to make the Intellectuals and the Peasants Happy; "It's only a matter of weeks!"

I give the Holy lands to the Pope to avoid a second Great war; "The Russians are Blind Idiots who can't see it's a good thing!"

And now I loose my only ally in the whole game due to Marsisian, that's it, it's done. I've lost enjoyment in this RP!

Your ally is no longer Austria-Hungary, it is Hungary. Mars himself never said he was no your ally, in fact he said what I just did. You have Hungary as your ally.

I am not saying Russia is going to collapse, I am just saying your golden idea of Russia is not true. All but one of the rebel groups are in Russia. I dunno but that sounds rather unstable to me, even if they are still willing to compromise, as Poland was, you saw now Poland is in a civil war over their oblast status.

[Kahlenberg]

I have had this discussion already. No one wants to hear it. I'm not saying Russia is perfect; it isn't. Alot of the Country is backwards, yes; alot of the Country is ethnically different, yes; the Country isn't democratic, yes; the Country only got lucky in the Great War, oh hell yes. But I have tried to fix it, I've been working on it both IC and in my App. But no, people cry, that's not enough, the Country is still on the verge of Collapse!

I try to deal with Revolutionaries by Compromising; "Russia is on the Verge of Collapse!"

I introduce reforms to make the Intellectuals and the Peasants Happy; "It's only a matter of weeks!"

I give the Holy lands to the Pope to avoid a second Great war; "The Russians are Blind Idiots who can't see it's a good thing!"

And now I loose my only ally in the whole game due to Marsisian, that's it, it's done. I've lost enjoyment in this RP!

Your ally is no longer Austria-Hungary, it is Hungary. Mars himself never said he was no your ally, in fact he said what I just did. You have Hungary as your ally.

I am not saying Russia is going to collapse, I am just saying your golden idea of Russia is not true. All but one of the rebel groups are in Russia. I dunno but that sounds rather unstable to me, even if they are still willing to compromise, as Poland was, you saw now Poland is in a civil war over their oblast status.

The idea of an even slightly successful communist uprising in Russia without the First World War happening is idiotic, in my fair opinion. The Russian leader would have been a national hero after the war, nobody would listen to the commies.

[Marsisian]

Anyway, here's the latest map: http://i.imgur.com/L2ixwyI.png

Wait, what's the provinces east of Ruthenia that belong to me? I'm not sure they belong to me, so maybe they could be client states or something.

[The Victorian Empire]

Wait, what's the provinces east of Ruthenia that belong to me? I'm not sure they belong to me, so maybe they could be client states or something.

What? I dunno, they were part of A-H. Do you not want them?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Your ally is no longer Austria-Hungary, it is Hungary. Mars himself never said he was no your ally, in fact he said what I just did. You have Hungary as your ally.

I am not saying Russia is going to collapse, I am just saying your golden idea of Russia is not true. All but one of the rebel groups are in Russia. I dunno but that sounds rather unstable to me, even if they are still willing to compromise, as Poland was, you saw now Poland is in a civil war over their oblast status.

The idea of an even slightly successful communist uprising in Russia without the First World War happening is idiotic, in my fair opinion. The Russian leader would have been a national hero after the war, nobody would listen to the commies.

I concur, but the movement still exists, which was my point.

[Marsisian]

Wait, what's the provinces east of Ruthenia that belong to me? I'm not sure they belong to me, so maybe they could be client states or something.

What? I dunno, they were part of A-H. Do you not want them?

No, not really.