1905 AH RP: The Aftermath of a Great War (OOC/Open)

[Elderowa]

What's going on?

World War 2 Has been Avoided, and now it seems like the Italian-Austrian War might be Avoided too.

[Elderowa]

World War 2 Has been Avoided, and now it seems like the Italian-Austrian War might be Avoided too.

In a one on one war i would win. I have the larger source manpower and Industry meaning i would bleed Italy white. I don't want a war though.

You do have to consider though, both you and Italy where main players in the Great War. You might have Patriotism amongst your Austrian And Hungarian Population for Winning it, but you still have Minorities who would be angry. All the Italians would be more angry, and a war between you two would cause Revolts in both of your country. You would win, but you'd also have to deal with Rebellions and the possibility of a completely destabilized Italy.

So I hope Peace wins out over War. And I'm glad no one here is like Hitler.

[Elderowa]

10 Million Rubels are on their way to Rome right now for your Papal Bank, Pope Glitter.

[Elderowa]

Let the puny westerners scramble for Africa. Russia will one day have the richest land on Earth as it's Colony: China.

[Elderowa]

gib ukraine independence

Seriously though, you should do it. There's a lot of benefits to it, some of them being that you don't have to deal with angry Ukrainian rebels in your country, you'll gain a big ally in the case of war, and a subsequent trade agreement would make you and us richer.

Or we'll expand into Anatolia.

The police will be dealing with the Ukrainian Seperatists when you guys attempt your first attack. You will be dealt with swiftly.

There will be no alternatives.

[Elderowa]

The police will be dealing with the Ukrainian Seperatists when you guys attempt your first attack. You will be dealt with swiftly.

There will be no alternatives.

You cannot know that we're doing it, that is metagaming and will be dealt with swiftly.

There will be no metagaming.

I know, but you think the Russian police won't be able to hear gun shots, or see people running into their office saying "Ukrainians!"?

[Elderowa]

I know, but you think the Russian police won't be able to hear gun shots, or see people running into their office saying "Ukrainians!"?

Yes, but they cannot know about the attack coming beforehand.

Last chance, Elderowa. Give us independence or face the consequences.

Oh, don't worry, they don't!

Last chance to you, Ukraine, Autonomy or feel the might of Russia!

[Elderowa]

No invading Germany. That is voided.

im not invading germany im taking polish land from them,so im not like meta-gaming and conquering germany

Kargintina, I suggest you leave Germany alone. I don't wanna intervene against you...

[Elderowa]

Kargintina, I suggest you leave Germany alone. I don't wanna intervene against you...

East Prussia is rightful Polish land and will be fought tooth and nail for

Accept your Oblast and leave other nations alone. Invading another country will result in you being obliterated and loosing whatever credibility you have with the Poles... Followed by Russian troops taking over Poland again...

Oh, don't worry, they don't!

Last chance to you, Ukraine, Autonomy or feel the might of Russia!

You just had a great war that killed 30 million people, not sure your depleted and demoralized army can successfully match the rebels in combat. If you're recruiting ethnic Ukrainians, they'd probably desert and join us.
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I'm using Russian Cops, not even an Army. Because your not a serious threat

Plus, I can starve all the Ukrainians if I need to. It'll be cruel, but it'd end your terrorism...

[Elderowa]

Accept your Oblast and leave other nations alone. Invading another country will result in you being obliterated and loosing whatever credibility you have with the Poles... Followed by Russian troops taking over Poland again...




I'm using Russian Cops, not even an Army. Because your not a serious threat

Plus, I can starve all the Ukrainians if I need to. It'll be cruel, but it'd end your terrorism...

im only taking a small peace of land from germany not invading all of them

To the Germans, there would be no difference; Your invading Germany, whether it's Prussia or Berlin. They would not treat it differently.

[Elderowa]

To the Germans, there would be no difference; Your invading Germany, whether it's Prussia or Berlin. They would not treat it differently.

when you released us as an Oblast you said we could continue to war with Germany and Austria as we chose now you wont let us?

Don't believe I ever said you could declare war on others.

And if I did, well, the situation has been altered.

[Elderowa]

Accept your Oblast and leave other nations alone. Invading another country will result in you being obliterated and loosing whatever credibility you have with the Poles... Followed by Russian troops taking over Poland again...



I'm using Russian Cops, not even an Army. Because your not a serious threat

Plus, I can starve all the Ukrainians if I need to. It'll be cruel, but it'd end your terrorism...

Nah, you cannot do both of those things and I will tell you why.

Cops? Really? Thanks! Nuff said.

And no, the area in which Ukraine is situated on is a ton of fertile farmland.

... Why can't I do both of what?

The cops will be more then enough.

You act as if we won't force Ukrainians off their farms and stores to not stock food in Ukraine in the event Marshall Law were declared!

[Elderowa]

Don't believe I ever said you could declare war on others.

And if I did, well, the situation has been altered.

i said poles would continue to fight germany and austria-hungary,you accepted that,i made two long posts based off of that and know you want to change after i already did two posts? Great

I assumed terrorism, not war!

[Elderowa]

Kargintina, I suggest you leave Germany alone. I don't wanna intervene against you...

Dude....pick your battles. You can't fight the Ukrainians and poles and do all this other supposed stuff. Even as the superpower, you can not do all of this stuff at once.

I wouldn't be fighting Poland, I'd let them fall on their own and just fill in the Vacuum while ending the Special Autonomy the Poles had.

That's different.

No, the cops will perform poorly.

That would give us more support.

No, the Cops will perform very well, thanks to the Reformation of the Police Act in 1897. They are trained very well, especially for cases of Terrorism.

Maybe, but your supporters will die off if they Starve to death...

[Elderowa]

I wouldn't be fighting Poland, I'd let them fall on their own and just fill in the Vacuum while ending the Special Autonomy the Poles had.

That's different.



No, the Cops will perform very well, thanks to the Reformation of the Police Act in 1897. They are trained very well, especially for cases of Terrorism.

Maybe, but your supporters will die off if they Starve to death...

No, that cannot be. You can't just make the police stronger every time a rebel movement pops up in your nation.

FINAL

Yeah, that would not be. Plenty of farms would be still under the control of us, and I'm not sure the Ukrainians would give up their farms so easily to you.

I didn't "Just Make" the Police Stronger every time there is a rebel movement, it only makes sense for Russia to have a Good Police Force, what with the fact that We just Conquered a bunch of Angry Islamic Turks and already have a bunch of Ethnicities that don't like us like you!

If Stalin could do it, so could Nickolas. Ukrainians are going to starve because of your actions.

[Elderowa]

I didn't "Just Make" the Police Stronger every time there is a rebel movement, it only makes sense for Russia to have a Good Police Force, what with the fact that We just Conquered a bunch of Angry Islamic Turks and already have a bunch of Ethnicities that don't like us like you!

If Stalin could do it, so could Nickolas. Ukrainians are going to starve because of your actions.

Yes, and that would be in the territories you conquered because they are likely to rebel. Ukraine isn't, so the police there would be the same.

FINAL, END OF DISCUSSION, DO NOT BRING IT UP AGAIN

And that would attract international attention.

Fine, if it's final, it's final. I will concede. But the Police don't suck in Ukraine

Well, your going to cause these extremes, and it wouldn't be the first time property from a Minority where terrorism has occurred has happened. It'll all be your fault the Ukrainians will starve, because you wouldn't accept Oblast Status.

[Elderowa]

Fine, if it's final, it's final. I will concede. But the Police don't suck in Ukraine

Well, your going to cause these extremes, and it wouldn't be the first time property from a Minority where terrorism has occurred has happened. It'll all be your fault the Ukrainians will starve, because you wouldn't accept Oblast Status.

I mean, they don't suck, but they're not the best either, like the Delta Force or something. Let's just leave it at that.

I'm not sure anybody would want to be an oblast not being an independent and recognized state.

Poland did, and there are several real Autonomous Oblasts in Russia today (Though they're actually called "Okrugs").

[Elderowa]

If Stalin could do it, so could Nickolas. Ukrainians are going to starve because of your actions.

At the same time, Stalin did it before WW2. He didn't just fight a war that killed 30 Million Russians.[/quote]

At the same time, the USSR just got out of a Civil War that lasted 2 years and did kill over 2 Million People only 10 years before. I can still do it.

[Elderowa]

At the same time, the USSR just got out of a Civil War that lasted 2 years and did kill over 2 Million People only 10 years before. I can still do it.

No, actually.

Fine. I'll just have to think of something else to deal with the Revolt. But We can definitely take it.

Also, Not all 30 Million Russians who died in Russia during the Great War where Russians. It includes the likes of the Poles, the Mongols, some Turks, and of course the Ukrainians. So you're population declined to, it wasn't just ours.

[Elderowa]

Fine. I'll just have to think of something else to deal with the Revolt. But We can definitely take it.

Also, Not all 30 Million Russians who died in Russia during the Great War where Russians. It includes the likes of the Poles, the Mongols, some Turks, and of course the Ukrainians. So you're population declined to, it wasn't just ours.

I'm reminded of the American government and Japanese citizens in California.

Internment camps might work, but maintaining them for the long run will be hard, and that could/would radicalize them more.

Still, it's more acceptable and less radicalizing then Starvation. I'll think about it...

[Elderowa]

Power went out, luckily it's back on.

I sifted through some stuff, and ultimately just got bored and decided to answer the stuff Austria was spewing.

First off, you have Trieste. That's it. You do not have north Trentino. You never did. I fixed the map to give you Trieste, but you never had Trentino. Mars already said that.

Secondly, it wouldn't just be me against you. Albania wants Montenegro, and I'm sure Serbobulgaria or the Serbian rebels would love Vojvodina. So it wouldn't just be me VS you. Also, my people wouldn't nearly be as pissed. I'm spitting nationalist rhetoric and promising Italiano Irredentismo. Basically, I'm pulling a Mussolini without the Fascism part. I'm also going to try and improve my military before invading rightful Italian lands and liberating the Italian people subject to the fiendish rule of Austria-Hungary.

Although I have given my word to the Pope not to Intervene in this war, I will not simply let you and the Serbians try to invade Austria. I will be sending weapons, money and Generals to my Austrian Buddy to aid him in his war if war is your determined course.

I suggest you and AH have a conference on this situation. I also suggest you listen to Russia's warnings...

[Elderowa]

Although I have given my word to the Pope not to Intervene in this war, I will not simply let you and the Serbians try to invade Austria. I will be sending weapons, money and Generals to my Austrian Buddy to aid him in his war if war is your determined course.

I suggest you and AH have a conference on this situation. I also suggest you listen to Russia's warnings...

I don't want violent confrontation either. And that is intervening.

He doesn't want me sending in troops, but he never said anything about Money, Arms and Advisors.

[Elderowa]

I dunno how I will respond to you yet, Mars. One the one hand, Russia just handed over the Holy Land to HH. Which is pretty important along with a rather large donation to the Catholic Relief Service. I might just send you humanitarian aid should violence break out, how you use the money is up to you, just don't let HH find out, he would not be very happy.

In regards to the Italian-Austrian Crisis, a peace conference is in the works.

Wait, they just handed it over? We'll give you Byzantium.

Russia completely owns Byzantium, as Michael Romanov (Look him up, he's the real brother of Nickolas II) owns Byzantia while Russia owns Anatolia and Constantinople. We gave the Pope those lands to make him like us.

Plus, why would the Pope want all of Byzantium? He just wanted the Holy Cities for Religious purposes; ruling Byzantium would be too much of a hassle for him...

[Elderowa]

Russia completely owns Byzantium, as Michael Romanov (Look him up, he's the real brother of Nickolas II) owns Byzantia while Russia owns Anatolia and Constantinople. We gave the Pope those lands to make him like us.

Plus, why would the Pope want all of Byzantium? He just wanted the Holy Cities for Religious purposes; ruling Byzantium would be too much of a hassle for him...

No, Constantinople.

What do you mean? Your statement has me confused...

Russia completely owns Byzantium, as Michael Romanov (Look him up, he's the real brother of Nickolas II) owns Byzantia while Russia owns Anatolia and Constantinople. We gave the Pope those lands to make him like us.

Plus, why would the Pope want all of Byzantium? He just wanted the Holy Cities for Religious purposes; ruling Byzantium would be too much of a hassle for him...

Byzantium isn't the Holy Land...

Exactly! When I refer to Byzantium, I'm referring to the Ottoman Empire/Former Byzantine Empire, which we completely took over from the Great war, then split up into Russian Held Anatolia and the Russian Ruled puppet state of Byzantia, which has to deal with Muslims. The Pope would have too many problems ruling Byzantium; the Muslims, the Influx of Russians, that sliver of land where Bedouins roam we don't own. Too much for him.

Also, isn't the Russian capital now Constantinople/Istanbul? I'd imagine you'd have fun taking that.

It isn't yet, but we intend to make it our Capital. Right now, the Hagia Sophia is being Re-Orthodoxied and a new Castle is being built there.

[Elderowa]

What do you mean? Your statement has me confused...



Exactly! When I refer to Byzantium, I'm referring to the Ottoman Empire/Former Byzantine Empire, which we completely took over from the Great war, then split up into Russian Held Anatolia and the Russian Ruled puppet state of Byzantia, which has to deal with Muslims. The Pope would have too many problems ruling Byzantium; the Muslims, the Influx of Russians, that sliver of land where Bedouins roam we don't own. Too much for him.

Byzantium is another name for Constantinople.

Oh, when you say Byzantium, you mean the City, but I was thinking of the Empire...

My mistake!