1905 AH RP: The Aftermath of a Great War (OOC/Open)

[Elderowa]

If I might act as impartial, Austria-Hungary would certainly not give up any Italian lands it owns, certainly not now Italy has been defeated brutally in the Anglo-Russian War. I suggest that you to settle on the borders of 1905, IRL.

Anglo-Russian War is the Great War (World War 1). Or, if you want, we could call it the "Anatolian War" (As the war was mainly fought to try to liberate Anatolia, from either the Ottomans and her Allies or the Russians and Austria-Hungary, depending on the side you where on).

Anyways, since this was basically the Crimean War on Steroids, and Russia, through massive losses and just never giving up, won it, shouldn't the politics of Western Europe be changed somehow? I mean, after the Russians lost the Crimean War, they would then loose Manchuria to Japan and then they had a series of revolts and attempts at reform and all that. Shouldn't Western Europe be, I dunno, somewhat destabilized or something?

[Elderowa]

How many casualties would Austria take in this war?

I don't know, but it lasted 20 years apparently, so you should probably take a lot. For example, I, as Russia, lost 30 Million Lives through fighting, disease and starvation!

[Elderowa]

Hey, just one more question; because Russia and Austria won the war, shouldn't the Balkans be firmly under our sphere of Influence?

[Elderowa]

Hey, just one more question; because Russia and Austria won the war, shouldn't the Balkans be firmly under our sphere of Influence?

I would assume so. It would be even if you hadn't won, most likely. What are they going to to do about it now?

Also, I was meaning to discuss something with you. You'd like to weaken Britain further, right?

This goes for you too Epraria.

We don't like the Western Europeans, but until push comes to shove, we'd rather leave them alone for the time being. Remember, 30 Million Russians Died from the War from a Population of 80 Million! (115 Million if you include my recently Annexed Anatolia) We'd love to see them crumble and show our Might again, but right now, we're focusing on ourselves and our vassals and Spheres of Influence.

I thought so to.

If we are going to sphere the Balkans, you can have Albania and Yugoslavia (Serbobulgaria) in your sphere, and I just want tiny Greece in mine. Does that sound fair? If not, you can have all the Balkans in your Sphere.

[Elderowa]

That's not fair. I've been independent for 30 years. And I'm a fellow Christian nation trying to convert my Muslim population.

It's not like we're taking you over. All that will happen is our Government officials will be monitoring your country and it's people, and offering "advice" in exchange for money and supplies.

[Elderowa]

It's not like we're taking you over. All that will happen is our Government officials will be monitoring your country and it's people, and offering "advice" in exchange for money and supplies.

Like we haven't heard that before. And besides, Albania's been a nice little nation, helping you guys in the war.

I know, you've guys have been really nice. Which is why we want to "Protect" you from any Western Nations trying to take over you, like those dirty Italians!

[Elderowa]

Remember, 30 Million Russians Died from the War from a Population of 80 Million! (115 Million if you include my recently Annexed Anatolia)

5 million of those 30 million killed "Russians" where Polish,after the might revolution we won't be fighting in your wars anymore

Hey hey hey, Polish Liberation front, we can work this out. Remember, this Czar Nicholas II isn't a Complete idiot like he was IRL. Plus, hundreds of thousands of you Poles are starting to experience a surge in Economic and Artistic Activities (Famous Polish Novelists, Artists, Business men, the Like). Also, Czar Nicholas II here would not approve of killing the last Polish-Lithuanian Monarch Descendant, that probably was the act of Communists!

But we can work this out. How about in IC, Nicholas sits with your leader and we work out something involving Poland? I swear your leaders will not be arrested at this meeting.

[Elderowa]

Hey hey hey, Polish Liberation front, we can work this out. Remember, this Czar Nicholas II isn't a Complete idiot like he was IRL. Plus, hundreds of thousands of you Poles are starting to experience a surge in Economic and Artistic Activities (Famous Polish Novelists, Artists, Business men, the Like). Also, Czar Nicholas II here would not approve of killing the last Polish-Lithuanian Monarch Descendant, that probably was the act of Communists!

But we can work this out. How about in IC, Nicholas sits with your leader and we work out something involving Poland? I swear your leaders will not be arrested at this meeting.

Release of Poland from Russian hands and aid in taking East Prussia from Germany and southern Poland from Austria in exchange for an alliance?

... That I sadly cannot do! We are not really willing to go to War again unless we absolutely need to, nor are we going to attack the Austrians, who are our dear allies. We also own Poland fair and square...

How about, I give you guys Autonomy; You rule over Poland while still serving under the Czar. Russians Completely abandon all parts of Poland, Polish laws rule over Poland (Unless the Czar rejects it) and Poland Troops occupy Poland instead of Russian Ones. You can also establish your own Currency if you wish.

Also, Russian guy, I do not know why you have Konigsberg and Memelland. They belong to Germany. They were neutral.

Huh, I thought those where a part of the Russian Empire. My mistake, just give those to Germany.

[Elderowa]

... That I sadly cannot do! We are not really willing to go to War again unless we absolutely need to, nor are we going to attack the Austrians, who are our dear allies.

How about, I give you guys Autonomy; You rule over Poland while still serving under the Czar. Russians Completely abandon all parts of Poland, Polish laws rule over Poland and Poland Troops occupy Poland instead of Russian Ones. You can also establish your own Currency if you wish.

Autonomy is accepted,but Polish forces will continue to attack German and Austrian forces until all of Poland is free.

Excellent! Just don't drag Russia into a war!

Also, keep in mind, some of the Czars rules will still need to be in place, but they'd be the common sense rules and they're only a few (No Polish Attacks on Russian Lands, including your own, No Attempts at Revolting against the Czar, No Protests against the Czar. Those are three Rules the Autonomous Poles have to accept). If you can accept those rules, your Autonomy is assured!

[Elderowa]

Excellent! Just don't drag Russia into a war!

Also, keep in mind, some of the Czars rules will still need to be in place, but they'd be the common sense rules and they're only a few (No Polish Attacks on Russian Lands, including your own, No Attempts at Revolting against the Czar, No Protests against the Czar. Those are three Rules the Autonomous Poles have to accept). If you can accept those rules, your Autonomy is assured!

accepted

Excellent! Your leaders will meet with mine, we will discuss a little bit, then we'll have an open press thing where we announce to the World that Poland will be an Autonomous Oblast (Territory) in Russia under the control of Poland! And Peace will reign for all (Except for the Russians in like Krakow that will have to Mass Migrate out of Poland)

[Elderowa]

We should tag-team at fighting the Austrians. Since they will undoubtedly try to pressure Serbobulgaria, the SNF will engage any Austrian invasion forces, or even cross over into Austrian territory to stir up trouble.

And if that fails, you Serbs will be allowed to move into Russia (But not into the Poland Oblast, because the Poles only want Poles in Poland)

I'm also debating whether I should at least finance the IRA or not... On the one hand, it's far away and it doesn't make sense for Russia to finance a group of people trying to liberate themselves, but on the other hand, we hate the Brits, and we wanna see them collapse... Hmmmmmm....

[Elderowa]

And if that fails, you Serbs will be allowed to move into Russia (But not into the Poland Oblast, because the Poles only want Poles in Poland)

Hey, you seem friendly to rebels!

Seriously, would you be interested in giving/selling weapons to Ireland?

Debating if I should send you money or not; on the one hand, you guys are far away and seperatists, but on the other hand, you'd help ruin England...

Also, I'm only friendly to Rebels within my own country to stop my own countries bloodshed. I couldn't give much care for rebels far away...

[Elderowa]

Debating if I should send you money or not; on the one hand, you guys are far away and seperatists, but on the other hand, you'd help ruin England...

Also, I'm only friendly to Rebels within my own country to stop my own countries bloodshed. I couldn't give much care for rebels far away...

We're not that far away. And what do you have against separatists in general? We pose literally no threat to you.

We finance you and then it leaks out, not only will we have an angry England who might declare a new war on us, but then groups like the Poles, the Finns, the Ukrainians, the Turks, the Mongols and the Baltic People might be emboldened to demand their own Liberation. I mean, we finance you to help you leave an empire's grasp, why should we have groups of people that can form a country on their own and don't like Russia or Russians?

[Elderowa]

We finance you and then it leaks out, not only will we have an angry England who might declare a new war on us, but then groups like the Poles, the Finns, the Ukrainians, the Turks, the Mongols and the Baltic People might be emboldened to demand their own Liberation. I mean, we finance you to help you leave an empire's grasp, why should we have groups of people that can form a country on their own and don't like Russia or Russians?

technechically the Poles already demanded liberation...and they partially got it

While that's true, you could demand full liberation if I fund the Irish and they win thanks to us! Plus, you wouldn't know immediately that we're funding the Irish, so you're not a factor in this conversation.

Imperialism is completely hypocritical. It always has been.

Why should it "leak out"? It's not illegal to import guns.

That is true (About Imperialism).

If Documents about a Russian Diplomat selling Russian Guns to Irish Rebels with the backing of the Czar leaks out, it might not be illegal, but it will make England Super Pissed off and could lead to a crises and a new war.

[Elderowa]

That's a small risk that, honestly, you would have to take. But there would be some money in it for you, and a perpetually indebted nation. If you don't want to, I could approach Germany and Austria. Or just steal British weapons.

I am still thinking about funding you guys (With Money, not Weapons. That way I could claim that the Documents on giving you aid is fake or a forgery). I'll let you know via Telegram if I do or don't fund you.

[Elderowa]

Hmm... I shall get into this Balkan beeswax and officially change my nation to something in the Balkans, which I shall find.

Sorry, Balkans is full. No more room for you.

[Elderowa]

I actually wasn't trying to hide it.

Okay, that is reserved for you.

Thanks. That was sarcasm though. Prepare for a weird twist. A Nordic Guatemala!!!

... Point of Departure is 1870... There is no way you can have a Nordic Guatemala...

[Elderowa]

The Scandinavians are hoping that Russia is willing to sell off Finland to the Scandinavians in the future. We're also considering the invasion of Northern Canada.

I can already tell you right now, Russia will not sell off Finland.

[Elderowa]

Will russia begin the meeting with poland soon?

Working on that Right now. Sorry, I was away.

Will Russia support Slavic Bros in Serbia?

On the one hand, you're under Austrian SOI, and Austria is my only real ally in the world.

On the other hand, your Serbians, close Slavic Brethern (Closer then the Bulgarians).

I say peace is the only solution: I am going to be sponsoring the meeting about possibly splitting the Bulgoserbia Kingdom into two. And it will be held in your Countries capitol.

[Elderowa]

I highly suggest you read my part of the IC page before doing the meeting

Don't worry, I read. I'm just going to declare your Autonomy then holding a meeting with your "Dictator".

Sorry, but Finland is ours! We got it fair and Square. Also, you don't wanna mess with Ginormous Russia!

[Elderowa]

Actually, I'm curious, when did communism become so prevalent among the Serbs, at least at this time period.

It hasn't yet. Me and Austria wouldn't allow it. Plus, Vladimir Lenin is in France right now, so if anything, France would fall to Marxist-Leninism.

Actually, I'm curious, when did communism become so prevalent among the Serbs, at least at this time period.

communism is prevalent in the poles too

Well, thank goodness your a Dictator and not a Soviet Leader. Also, try to keep the Soviets from taking over your Autonomous Kingdom, okay?

[Elderowa]

Well, gonna do a Ukrainian rebel group. I haven't done a rebel group in all my time on the forums. Might be fun.

Okay, I can give you Autonomy too.

[Elderowa]

Okay, I can give you Autonomy too.

Hmm.... I am technically an independent state but I also technically belong to the Russian Empire?

That's how it works!

Seriously?!

This Czar has seen the Horrors of War. He was the General in many vicious, bloody battles through out the Great War. To him, it's peace at all Cost until he has to give up part of his Kingdom or it will threaten his society. Giving Autonomy to Ukraine wouldn't hurt anyone (Well, except the small number of Russians living there already).

[Elderowa]

It hasn't yet. Me and Austria wouldn't allow it. Plus, Vladimir Lenin is in France right now, so if anything, France would fall to Marxist-Leninism.



Well, thank goodness your a Dictator and not a Soviet Leader. Also, try to keep the Soviets from taking over your Autonomous Kingdom, okay?

can you ask austria if they will give up south poland peacefully? after losing men to germany i dont want to fight another invasion

I can try, but I don't think Austria will.

Well....um...that's not particularly true. the SNF is a moderate socialist movement. The main focus is Serbian Nationalism though.

Talking about Poland, not you.

[Elderowa]

Okay, so, I, Italy, shall plot against Austria-Hungary.

WHO WILL JOIN ME!?

I will join!...

... The Austrians.

The dictator is waiting mr.czar

I'm working on it! It's a long post!