1992: The Modern Scenario (AH, OOC/FINISHED)

[Alouite]

Err...forced immigration?

I can't exactly see that being popular, at all.

Shhh guys. Mars is one of those folks that thinks colonialism is good for a nation. Shhhh.

But in all reality, the Spanish should have gave up Spanish Morocco like it did IRL when France and Spain gave independence to Morocco. Holding colonies in Africa became extremely expansive post-WWII and not worth it. It doesn't look good for your nation either *glares at France*.

It wouldn't be popular. Trust me Moroccans hate the Spanish government and some of them just outright dislike Spaniards. Their would be a level of rejection of the Spanish settlers though with so low a population it would be hard for things to escalate.

[Marsisian]

Shhh guys. Mars is one of those folks that thinks colonialism is good for a nation. Shhhh.

But in all reality, the Spanish should have gave up Spanish Morocco like it did IRL when France and Spain gave independence to Morocco. Holding colonies in Africa became extremely expansive post-WWII and not worth it. It doesn't look good for your nation either *glares at France*.

It wouldn't be popular. Trust me Moroccans hate the Spanish government and some of them just outright dislike Spaniards. Their would be a level of rejection of the Spanish settlers though with so low a population it would be hard for things to escalate.

There really are not a lot of Moroccans in the Spanish Sahara right now, they mostly went to Morocco or Morroccland after they gained independence.

[Alouite]

I explained this in the APP and in the post itself, we already had the majority in Rostock to the point that we basically ran the city (Kind of like a semi-mafia thing). And please, feel free to respond to all of this. I kinda want to have to make some cessations in my claims but only after rping it out. Can we agree on that?

I am typing my IC post now.

Cessations? More like the arrest of rebels and death of rebels if they don't comply.

What? Do you want a bigger revolt on your hands? Take my advice when I say not to attack rebels, it makes more of them. Think about it, in every case someone attacked rebels they had a long war or were toppled. You want that?

[Imperial Baekchae]

Alouite,

Do realize that he did make his claims first, so he had the right to determine exactly what kind of country Germany would be. Even if your app came in first, you had a responsibility to discuss it with him, considering Germany was clearly his intellectual property, first.

Anyway, your logic is not winning any support, and it'd be best if you guys took this to TG to prevent souring the mood of this thread. I don't care who's right at this point; I just need you to act like an adult and take this whining to TG so we don't have to cringe through it.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Yeah this is moving way too fast for me and I'm really busy right now so unfortunately I won't be continuing, France is open for application.

Thank you and good luck

With the Openess of Lol France, may i add Piedmont,Nice,Sardinia, Savoy, Nice, Corsica and Aosta to my claims?

[Kryskov]

What? Do you want a bigger revolt on your hands? Take my advice when I say not to attack rebels, it makes more of them. Think about it, in every case someone attacked rebels they had a long war or were toppled. You want that?

...This is so wrong I don't know what to do...

[Arkorrnia]

I am typing my IC post now.

Cessations? More like the arrest of rebels and death of rebels if they don't comply.

What? Do you want a bigger revolt on your hands? Take my advice when I say not to attack rebels, it makes more of them. Think about it, in every case someone attacked rebels they had a long war or were toppled. You want that?

So, I can't destroy the rebellion because you'll make more rebels? What exactly am I supposed to do? Allow half of the country to be part of my country, but not controlled by me?

[Marsisian]

Yeah this is moving way too fast for me and I'm really busy right now so unfortunately I won't be continuing, France is open for application.

Thank you and good luck

With the Openess of Lol France, may i add Piedmont,Nice,Sardinia, Savoy, Nice, Corsica and Aosta to my claims?

Yeah, I want Catalonia plus Aquitaine, Midi-Pyrenees, and Languedoc-Roussillon for my claims.

[The New Lowlands]

Yeah this is moving way too fast for me and I'm really busy right now so unfortunately I won't be continuing, France is open for application.

Thank you and good luck

With the Openess of Lol France, may i add Piedmont, Sardinia, Savoy, Nice, Corsica and Aosta to my claims?

PoD-1945, remember?

With the Openess of Lol France, may i add Piedmont,Nice,Sardinia, Savoy, Nice, Corsica and Aosta to my claims?

Yeah, I want Catalonia plus Aquitaine, Midi-Pyrenees, and Languedoc-Roussillon for my claims.

ffs people see above

[Rephesus]

Yeah this is moving way too fast for me and I'm really busy right now so unfortunately I won't be continuing, France is open for application.

Thank you and good luck

With the Openess of Lol France, may i add Piedmont,Nice,Sardinia, Savoy, Nice, Corsica and Aosta to my claims?

No you may not. The claims remain as 'Greater France' as does the rest of the established canon. The areas are basically French after 50 years of cultural divergence and migration anyway.

[Bujahla]

It wouldn't be popular. Trust me Moroccans hate the Spanish government and some of them just outright dislike Spaniards. Their would be a level of rejection of the Spanish settlers though with so low a population it would be hard for things to escalate.

There really are not a lot of Moroccans in the Spanish Sahara right now, they mostly went to Morocco or Morroccland after they gained independence.

We aren't complaining about Spanish Sahara, we are complaining about Spanish Morocco, your protectorate (or at least it was IRL). Moving moroccans there would only further the cause for rebellion. Besides, they'd go to independent morocco anyhow, not your colony if they had the choice.

[Rephesus]

Frances land claims remain as I leave, this isn't open season, the land on the map remains for the new player.

[Bujahla]

With the Openess of Lol France, may i add Piedmont,Nice,Sardinia, Savoy, Nice, Corsica and Aosta to my claims?

No you may not. The claims remain as 'Greater France' as does the rest of the established canon. The areas are basically French after 50 years of cultural divergence and migration anyway.

If you are leaving, and never posted ICly, we should be able to get rid of your claim. Besides that, that's utter bullshit. Spain hasn't been able to culturally intergrate Catalonia and its been 500 years so I fail to see how they are "basically french"

[Marsisian]

I request Catalonia be brought back into the Iberian Republic, I didn't support the fact that I said yes anyway

[Marsisian]

There really are not a lot of Moroccans in the Spanish Sahara right now, they mostly went to Morocco or Morroccland after they gained independence.

We aren't complaining about Spanish Sahara, we are complaining about Spanish Morocco, your protectorate (or at least it was IRL). Moving moroccans there would only further the cause for rebellion. Besides, they'd go to independent morocco anyhow, not your colony if they had the choice.

Well, they really don't.

[Alouite]

Alouite,

1)Do realize that he did make his claims first, so he had the right to determine exactly what kind of country Germany would be. 2)Even if your app came in first, you had a responsibility to discuss it with him, considering Germany was clearly his intellectual property, first.

3)Anyway, your logic is not winning any support, and it'd be best if you guys took this to TG to prevent souring the mood of this thread. 4)I don't care who's right at this point; I just need you to act like an adult and take this whining to TG so we don't have to cringe through it.

1)He reserved Germany, not made claims. I made an app with claims. He made an app with claims.

2) And I am.

3) I don't want your support, I want Watazakio to moderate this

4)Sure. But as a side note, your insults will be remembered. I was respectful, responsible and polite throughout this. I was just shocked when he said "Get rid of half of your claims or else"

5) Lastly, other than this post you only worked to stir things up by reasonableness name calling and taking sides on something that should be handled better than it has been. And you call me immature...

[The New Lowlands]

Frances land claims remain as I leave, this isn't open season, the land on the map remains for the new player.

If you leave, it's open season.

[Puerto Tyranus]

Hurg...if you guys want those lands back, go to war. I'm not fixing my map unless you guys type out that shite.

[Rephesus]

No you may not. The claims remain as 'Greater France' as does the rest of the established canon. The areas are basically French after 50 years of cultural divergence and migration anyway.

If you are leaving, and never posted ICly, we should be able to get rid of your claim. Besides that, that's utter bullshit. Spain hasn't been able to culturally intergrate Catalonia and its been 500 years so I fail to see how they are "basically french"

Meh, I guess you're right as I was referring to Italian provinces, not Catalonia. Anyway, I am not okay with the claims being given to existing nations just because I'm OOCly leaving . If the land is transferred it needs to be done with the permission of the new france player.

[Bujahla]

We aren't complaining about Spanish Sahara, we are complaining about Spanish Morocco, your protectorate (or at least it was IRL). Moving moroccans there would only further the cause for rebellion. Besides, they'd go to independent morocco anyhow, not your colony if they had the choice.

Well, they really don't.

So you are gonna transport thousands of angry people who want to revolt to one of your territories instead of sending them to their own country by ethnicity? Seems like a smart policy choice.

[Rephesus]

Frances land claims remain as I leave, this isn't open season, the land on the map remains for the new player.

If you leave, it's open season.

The new player retains all of the lands specific in my app.

[Ptolemais]

If you leave, it's open season.

The new player retains all of the lands specific in my app.

Why are you leaving again? Who's going to create the EU??

[The New Lowlands]

If you leave, it's open season.

The new player retains all of the lands specific in my app.

That's not up to you.

[Alouite]

What? Do you want a bigger revolt on your hands? Take my advice when I say not to attack rebels, it makes more of them. Think about it, in every case someone attacked rebels they had a long war or were toppled. You want that?

So, I can't destroy the rebellion because you'll make more rebels? What exactly am I supposed to do? Allow half of the country to be part of my country, but not controlled by me?

Want me to help you out here? I'll only do it once. What you need to do is demonize the revolt by acting like the victim. This way you can earn public support and then take the fight to me. At that point you'd likely be able to push me back to Pommerania and the East most part of Saxony. At which point I'd hope to make a deal. The map was a future proposal not now. Now I control three cities and possibly (up to your interpretation) a province one of the cities is not German.

[Marsisian]

Well, they really don't.

So you are gonna transport thousands of angry people who want to revolt to one of your territories instead of sending them to their own country by ethnicity? Seems like a smart policy choice.

No, I am moving them to the country I gave independence, Moroccland.