1992: The Modern Scenario (AH, OOC/FINISHED)

[Lunas Legion]

The US can crush the Iranian military and government in months, maybe weeks, they can never effectively install a puppet government and it would take decades to stabilize it, but understand this Luna, for it to get to that point you'd have foreign control of Tehran and your economy would crash.

Except that wouldn't be my issue. Once Tehran falls, or is close to falling, the Shah melts away into the background to marshal the remains of the Iranian Army together in a resistance movement. The US, even if it defeats Iran, can never maintain a pro-US Iran government. And if Tehran falls, well, the clerics will gain ridiculous amount of influence back by saying 'The Shah has defied the will of Allah and he has been punished for it. Now it is left to His faithful to expel the heathens from Persia" or something.

[The New Lowlands]

The US can crush the Iranian military and government in months, maybe weeks, they can never effectively install a puppet government and it would take decades to stabilize it, but understand this Luna, for it to get to that point you'd have foreign control of Tehran and your economy would crash.

Except that wouldn't be my issue. Once Tehran falls, or is close to falling, the Shah melts away into the background to marshal the remains of the Iranian Army together in a resistance movement. The US, even if it defeats Iran, can never maintain a pro-US Iran government. And if Tehran falls, well, the clerics will gain ridiculous amount of influence back by saying 'The Shah has defied the will of Allah and he has been punished for it. Now it is left to His faithful to expel the heathens from Persia" or something.

In which case the US can follow an exit strategy, having gained what they want by deposing the Shah.

[Rephesus]

The US can crush the Iranian military and government in months, maybe weeks, they can never effectively install a puppet government and it would take decades to stabilize it, but understand this Luna, for it to get to that point you'd have foreign control of Tehran and your economy would crash.

Except that wouldn't be my issue. Once Tehran falls, or is close to falling, the Shah melts away into the background to marshal the remains of the Iranian Army together in a resistance movement. The US, even if it defeats Iran, can never maintain a pro-US Iran government. And if Tehran falls, well, the clerics will gain ridiculous amount of influence back by saying 'The Shah has defied the will of Allah and he has been punished for it. Now it is left to His faithful to expel the heathens from Persia" or something.

So you're willing to have your nation collapse and RP as a bunch of rebels? Cool.

[Lunas Legion]

Except that wouldn't be my issue. Once Tehran falls, or is close to falling, the Shah melts away into the background to marshal the remains of the Iranian Army together in a resistance movement. The US, even if it defeats Iran, can never maintain a pro-US Iran government. And if Tehran falls, well, the clerics will gain ridiculous amount of influence back by saying 'The Shah has defied the will of Allah and he has been punished for it. Now it is left to His faithful to expel the heathens from Persia" or something.

So you're willing to have your nation collapse and RP as a bunch of rebels? Cool.

Quite simply, I never surrender. Ever.

[The New Lowlands]

So you're willing to have your nation collapse and RP as a bunch of rebels? Cool.

Quite simply, I never surrender. Ever.

Your people and army does, however.

[Lunas Legion]

Quite simply, I never surrender. Ever.

Your people and army does, however.

The clerics never will. And they have a lot of influence over the mindset of people.

[Bolkania]

Being apart of the Non-Aligned movement is lonely.

Good ye Commiez

Me, commie?

CHECK THE IC YOU MAD ITALIAN.

[Doitsu-san]

I support India getting involved in the war on the side of Iran, it'll be a 2 for 1 deal and save me from having to hassle with them later.

[Ugandavitz]

Well, I wasn't invited. Or oocly given a link, so meh. That's fine. Eurasia is the Swiss of Asia I guess.

You might have missed it;

I get that you were trying to make a joke, but I wasn't in the mood. Sue me.

If you're an Asian country, click this link here.

Well if you keep it going, I'll join in if everyone doesn't mind

[Rephesus]

I support India getting involved in the war on the side of Iran, it'll be a 2 for 1 deal and save me from having to deal with them later.

Ha. Ha. That's funny. India can and always has been able to curb stomp turkey. 1992 is no exception. Also, incase you forgot, most of the world hates Turkey right now.

I'm not going to be supporting Iran because they invaded a sovereign nation, although I just might decide to sail over there and teach Turkey a lesson on my own.

[Ptolemais]

I support India getting involved in the war on the side of Iran, it'll be a 2 for 1 deal and save me from having to hassle with them later.

I seriously hope you don't mean you could take India.

They have more people than you have bullets

[Doitsu-san]

I support India getting involved in the war on the side of Iran, it'll be a 2 for 1 deal and save me from having to hassle with them later.

I seriously hope you don't mean you could take India.

They have more people than you have bullets

China attacks them from Kashmir
The United States attacks them from the East and South

India has a huge army, but do they have the power projection to invade Turkey? Absolutely not.

[Ptolemais]

China attacks them from Kashmir
The United States attacks them from the East and South

India has a huge army, but do they have the power projection to invade Turkey? Absolutely not.

I hope you're not counting on US/Chinese support. Anyways, from what I get he may want to defend Iran, not invade Turkey, which is possible.

[Rephesus]

I seriously hope you don't mean you could take India.

They have more people than you have bullets

China attacks them from Kashmir
The United States attacks them from the East and South

India has a huge army, but do they have the power projection to invade Turkey? Absolutely not.

China would never invade India, their economy would be screwed and they'd lose more men than if they invaded every other neighbour they have. Plus who wants to fight in the Himalayas? The US would never attack India, that would ruin the global economy, and they'd lose almost every man they sent in. India is one of the strongest nations in the world right now.

Turkey, doesn't have the power projection to attack anything past Iran's borders, which I have no intention of defending anyway.

[Rephesus]

China attacks them from Kashmir
The United States attacks them from the East and South

India has a huge army, but do they have the power projection to invade Turkey? Absolutely not.

I hope you're not counting on US/Chinese support. Anyways, from what I get he may want to defend Iran, not invade Turkey, which is possible.

Kinda the opposite. Iran can get invaded by all its neighbours for all i care, so long as the new regime isn't worst than the last.

Turkey, is being an international shit-disturber and I'm considering just going over there and giving them a reminder of what happens when you mess with India.

[Lunas Legion]

Also, what about this thing? I doubt they'd simply sit by while the Iranians liberate their region...

I also need a OP resolution on the actions of Armenia, and whether they're helping me or not.

Edit: And since Turkey's entire army is on my border, I wonder how they'll be dealing with the Greeks. I doubt they'll remain under Turkish rule for long without encouragement.

[Rephesus]

Also, what about this thing? I doubt they'd simply sit by while the Iranians liberate their region...

I also need a OP resolution on the actions of Armenia, and whether they're helping me or not.

Honestly, if you were fighting Azerbaijan for them, they would. Who wouldn't? That's like South Korea not acting if Japan invaded NK.

[Lunas Legion]

Also, what about this thing? I doubt they'd simply sit by while the Iranians liberate their region...

I also need a OP resolution on the actions of Armenia, and whether they're helping me or not.

Honestly, if you were fighting Azerbaijan for them, they would. Who wouldn't? That's like South Korea not acting if Japan invaded NK.

Well, it appears Azerbijan may as well just surrender now in that case; they stripped their border with Armenia to hold Iran back, so...

[Bolkania]

Can we create rebel groups while holding sovereign nations in this RP? I would like to create the Hellas Liberation Army.

Seriously Turkey, you may have a fairly strong army, but like in the early 1800s, never fuck with angry Slavs or Greeks.

[Doitsu-san]

China attacks them from Kashmir
The United States attacks them from the East and South

India has a huge army, but do they have the power projection to invade Turkey? Absolutely not.

China would never invade India, their economy would be screwed and they'd lose more men than if they invaded every other neighbour they have. Plus who wants to fight in the Himalayas? The US would never attack India, that would ruin the global economy, and they'd lose almost every man they sent in. India is one of the strongest nations in the world right now.

Turkey, doesn't have the power projection to attack anything past Iran's borders, which I have no intention of defending anyway.

If you actually want to look at the facts, India doesn't make up that much of China's exports, even less so 10 Years before now. The same thing applies to the United States. Attacking India would be like losing 1 dollar out of 100 dollars, saying it would "ruin the global economy" is quite an overestimation. Your Greater India is divided between Indians, Pakistani, and Bangladeshi, if the latter two were guaranteed independence it would quickly turn sour as rebels supported the invading forces.

Turkey doesn't need to send anything past Iran's borders, China and the U.S. would get wet for the idea of hegemony over India (most likely it would end up divided in two).

[Lunas Legion]

Can we create rebel groups while holding sovereign nations in this RP? I would like to create the Hellas Liberation Army.

Seriously Turkey, you may have a fairly strong army, but like in the early 1800s, never fuck with angry Slavs or Greeks.

Bulgaria could grab a lot of land with Iran distracting Turkey. They might even be able to occupy Istanbul and Thrace as well as liberating Greece.

[Doitsu-san]

Can we create rebel groups while holding sovereign nations in this RP? I would like to create the Hellas Liberation Army.

Seriously Turkey, you may have a fairly strong army, but like in the early 1800s, never fuck with angry Slavs or Greeks.

Bulgaria could grab a lot of land with Iran distracting Turkey. They might even be able to occupy Istanbul and Thrace as well as liberating Greece.

Let them make their way through the thousands of Turkish reservists called up, and Italian reinforcements that would quickly be sent to Thrace.

I love this, it is developing into a 3 in 1 deal! What a great value!

[Bolkania]

Can we create rebel groups while holding sovereign nations in this RP? I would like to create the Hellas Liberation Army.

Seriously Turkey, you may have a fairly strong army, but like in the early 1800s, never fuck with angry Slavs or Greeks.

Bulgaria could grab a lot of land with Iran distracting Turkey. They might even be able to occupy Istanbul and Thrace as well as liberating Greece.

That would be too much to handle, unless I had strong allies like Russia (Where the fuck is that player?). Ideally, if Turkey attacked me first and gave Bulgaria the image of a victim, I might get the huge support I need.

Anyway, my next IC post will be about a Bulgarian journalist noting about the Greeks being denied any autonomy.

[Lunas Legion]

Bulgaria could grab a lot of land with Iran distracting Turkey. They might even be able to occupy Istanbul and Thrace as well as liberating Greece.

Let them make their way through the thousands of Turkish reservists called up, and Italian reinforcements that would quickly be sent to Thrace.

I love this, it is developing into a 3 in 1 deal! What a great value!

Reservists don't count for anything if they're overrun while mobilising and organising. Besides, I doubt Turkey could ever hold Iran, Bulgaria and Greece at the same time. And you missed one rather important thing about the field of operations; one which will, if it works, probably cost you the war.

[Bolkania]

Bulgaria could grab a lot of land with Iran distracting Turkey. They might even be able to occupy Istanbul and Thrace as well as liberating Greece.

Let them make their way through the thousands of Turkish reservists called up, and Italian reinforcements that would quickly be sent to Thrace.

I love this, it is developing into a 3 in 1 deal! What a great value!

Judging by Italy OOC, and his views on Turkey (Which some island under Turkish control could come under Italian claims), I can not but differ from your views.

Anyway, I will not, unless you're looking for Turkey to be hated world wide for being aggressive yet again.