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Poll ended at Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:23 pm

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 8:43 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Rephesus wrote:You want us to fight the US for you? Ha. Ha. Give us everything south and east of Tehran.


US is weak. It can't fight a long war, hell, you don't even need to inflict losses. Just drag out the war, and then public opinion will turn and the US pulls out.

Besides, I doubt the US will put that many boots on the ground. Give me elements of the Indian Air Force to augument the IIAF and Turkey may as well give up.


I'm not going to crash the world economy to save your ass from Turkey. If you were a bit better than this you'd have already withdrawn from the offensive and started fighting defensively. Maintain air superiority and the Turks are screwed.

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Lunas Legion
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon May 19, 2014 8:44 am

The New Lowlands wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
US is weak. It can't fight a long war, hell, you don't even need to inflict losses. Just drag out the war, and then public opinion will turn and the US pulls out.

Besides, I doubt the US will put that many boots on the ground. Give me elements of the Indian Air Force to augument the IIAF and Turkey may as well give up.

lul wat


I point to Afganistan, Vietnam and Iraq. Drag a war on long enough and public opinion turns. In a democracy, that's just bait for someone to come to power on a anti-war campaign and then pull the troops out.
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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 8:46 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:lul wat


I point to Afganistan, Vietnam and Iraq. Drag a war on long enough and public opinion turns. In a democracy, that's just bait for someone to come to power on a anti-war campaign and then pull the troops out.


I will not severe diplomatic and economic ties with the US for Iran. If the US withdraws I'll help you against the Turks, but if they remain in the theatre I will not.

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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon May 19, 2014 8:46 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:lul wat


I point to Afganistan, Vietnam and Iraq. Drag a war on long enough and public opinion turns. In a democracy, that's just bait for someone to come to power on a anti-war campaign and then pull the troops out.

Afghanistan is ongoing, the US spent about seven years in Iraq, and Vietnam was nearly two fucking decades. All of these are more than enough in terms of time to utterly crush the Persian army.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon May 19, 2014 8:47 am

Rephesus wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
US is weak. It can't fight a long war, hell, you don't even need to inflict losses. Just drag out the war, and then public opinion will turn and the US pulls out.

Besides, I doubt the US will put that many boots on the ground. Give me elements of the Indian Air Force to augument the IIAF and Turkey may as well give up.


I'm not going to crash the world economy to save your ass from Turkey. If you were a bit better than this you'd have already withdrawn from the offensive and started fighting defensively. Maintain air superiority and the Turks are screwed.


You haven't seen my entire plan yet. Break Azerbijan with the First Army, neutralise them, then deal with the Turks. I haven't even committed all my forces as of yet since Second Army and Fifth Air Corps are still along the Iraqi border, just in case and the Basji aren't fully mobilised and the Revolutionary Guard haven't moved either.
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Lunas Legion
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon May 19, 2014 8:48 am

The New Lowlands wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
I point to Afganistan, Vietnam and Iraq. Drag a war on long enough and public opinion turns. In a democracy, that's just bait for someone to come to power on a anti-war campaign and then pull the troops out.

Afghanistan is ongoing, the US spent about seven years in Iraq, and Vietnam was nearly two fucking decades. All of these are more than enough in terms of time to utterly crush the Persian army.


Crush the army, but what about the Basji? The Revolutionary Guards? The People's Mujhadeen? If the US does a Iraq and installs a democratic US government, they'll face another Vietnam.
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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 8:51 am

The US can crush the Iranian military and government in months, maybe weeks, they can never effectively install a puppet government and it would take decades to stabilize it, but understand this Luna, for it to get to that point you'd have foreign control of Tehran and your economy would crash.

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Sabara
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Postby Sabara » Mon May 19, 2014 9:00 am

Guys, should we merely summarize the rest of the Nagoya Conference and put it in a post, along with the treaty?

Or continue to drag it out?
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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 9:29 am

Sabara wrote:Guys, should we merely summarize the rest of the Nagoya Conference and put it in a post, along with the treaty?

Or continue to drag it out?


Summarize.

India wants the following:
-Pan-Asian poverty relief fund,
-Tibetan economic autonomy to domestically trade with other Asian nations
-Tariff removals on major exports such as Jewellery, Petrol, Machinery/Instruments,Drugs/Pharmaceuticals
-University exchange programs
-Recognition of all Indian territorial claims (parts of Afghanistan, a few borders posts in Thailand, a handful of Indian Ocean microislands)
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Sabara
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Postby Sabara » Mon May 19, 2014 9:32 am

Rephesus wrote:
Sabara wrote:Guys, should we merely summarize the rest of the Nagoya Conference and put it in a post, along with the treaty?

Or continue to drag it out?


Summarize.

India wants the following:
-Pan-Asian poverty relief fund,
-Tibetan economic autonomy to domestically trade with other Asian nations
-Tariff removals on major exports such as Jewellery, Petrol, Machinery/Instruments,Drugs/Pharmaceuticals
-University exchange programs
-Recognition of all Indian territorial claims (parts of Afghanistan, a few borders posts in Thailand, a handful of Indian Ocean microislands)

Hm, interesting. I thought it was agreed that tariffs would only be abolished on food and energy exports?
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Ptolemais
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Postby Ptolemais » Mon May 19, 2014 9:32 am

Limborg wrote:Can someone tell me the current alliances/wars?


Alliances haven't really been defined yet. I think we have:

NATO
GOPD (Some form of global NATO not currently implemented)
SDC (Not sure what's going on with this one)
Lezhe(sp?) (Turkey's aggressive alliance from what i've seen so far)
Non-Aligned Movement (soooon)
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Japan in 2016 Modern World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=283184) [Co-OP]
Canada in 2014 Real World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=272910)
Great Shogunate of Japan in 1914 AH RP - The Great War (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=287302)
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Sabara
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Postby Sabara » Mon May 19, 2014 9:35 am

Ptolemais wrote:
Limborg wrote:Can someone tell me the current alliances/wars?


Alliances haven't really been defined yet. I think we have:

NATO
GOPD (Some form of global NATO not currently implemented)
SDC (Not sure what's going on with this one)
Lezhe(sp?) (Turkey's aggressive alliance from what i've seen so far)
Non-Aligned Movement (soooon)

Don't forget the Nagoya Pact! :P
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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon May 19, 2014 9:36 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Afghanistan is ongoing, the US spent about seven years in Iraq, and Vietnam was nearly two fucking decades. All of these are more than enough in terms of time to utterly crush the Persian army.


Crush the army, but what about the Basji? The Revolutionary Guards? The People's Mujhadeen? If the US does a Iraq and installs a democratic US government, they'll face another Vietnam.

All elements of the army.

And suppose they don't, your reserves will be rather useless.

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Ugandavitz
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Postby Ugandavitz » Mon May 19, 2014 9:37 am

Until I'm given Russia, is Eurasia part of the Nagoya? Contemplating starting a neutral entity too..
I'm here.

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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon May 19, 2014 9:38 am

Ugandavitz wrote:Until I'm given Russia, is Eurasia part of the Nagoya? Contemplating starting a neutral entity too..

If you're not present at the Conference, you're not part of Nagoya.

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Sabara
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Postby Sabara » Mon May 19, 2014 9:39 am

The New Lowlands wrote:
Ugandavitz wrote:Until I'm given Russia, is Eurasia part of the Nagoya? Contemplating starting a neutral entity too..

If you're not present at the Conference, you're not part of Nagoya.

Lowlands, how do you feel about a follow up defense conference in Malaysia?
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Ugandavitz
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Postby Ugandavitz » Mon May 19, 2014 9:40 am

Well, I wasn't invited. Or oocly given a link, so meh. That's fine. Eurasia is the Swiss of Asia I guess.
I'm here.

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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon May 19, 2014 9:40 am

Sabara wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:If you're not present at the Conference, you're not part of Nagoya.

Lowlands, how do you feel about a follow up defense conference in Malaysia?

I suppose that'd be alright. Want me to write an OP?

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 9:40 am

The New Lowlands wrote:
Rephesus wrote:

:c


Malaysia is invited! Sorry! :blush:

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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon May 19, 2014 9:41 am

Ugandavitz wrote:Well, I wasn't invited. Or oocly given a link, so meh. That's fine. Eurasia is the Swiss of Asia I guess.

You might have missed it;
Imperial Baekchae wrote:
Marsisian wrote:You really do not know what the difference between joking and not joking is, Mr. Oblivious.

I get that you were trying to make a joke, but I wasn't in the mood. Sue me.

If you're an Asian country, click this link here.

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Sabara
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Postby Sabara » Mon May 19, 2014 9:41 am

Ugandavitz wrote:Well, I wasn't invited. Or oocly given a link, so meh. That's fine. Eurasia is the Swiss of Asia I guess.

Oh, I thought I had told you that you were welcome. Sorry.

The New Lowlands wrote:
Sabara wrote:Lowlands, how do you feel about a follow up defense conference in Malaysia?

I suppose that'd be alright. Want me to write an OP?


Whatever you would like. :)
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Ptolemais
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Postby Ptolemais » Mon May 19, 2014 9:43 am

Limborg and Emerald Dragon, could you take your meeting to the Conference thread? You've almost burned through half the month...
CURRENT:
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Scandinavian Union in 1992 Modern Scenario (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=295466) [Co-OP]
Japan in 2016 Modern World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=283184) [Co-OP]
Canada in 2014 Real World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=272910)
Great Shogunate of Japan in 1914 AH RP - The Great War (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=287302)
Orb Union in Pandyssia, Blood and Iron (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=289399)
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Postby Slavuchnengrad » Mon May 19, 2014 9:45 am

I cleared all my telegrams so I don't know if Epraria responded to my telegram about him accepting my application for Kuwait.

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Bolkania
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Postby Bolkania » Mon May 19, 2014 9:46 am

Ptolemais wrote:
Limborg wrote:Can someone tell me the current alliances/wars?


Alliances haven't really been defined yet. I think we have:

NATO
GOPD (Some form of global NATO not currently implemented)
SDC (Not sure what's going on with this one)
Lezhe(sp?) (Turkey's aggressive alliance from what i've seen so far)
Non-Aligned Movement (soooon)

Being apart of the Non-Aligned movement is lonely. :(

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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Mon May 19, 2014 9:48 am

Bolkania wrote:
Ptolemais wrote:
Alliances haven't really been defined yet. I think we have:

NATO
GOPD (Some form of global NATO not currently implemented)
SDC (Not sure what's going on with this one)
Lezhe(sp?) (Turkey's aggressive alliance from what i've seen so far)
Non-Aligned Movement (soooon)

Being apart of the Non-Aligned movement is lonely. :(

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