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What do you want out of my next RP?

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Limborg
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Postby Limborg » Mon May 19, 2014 4:51 am

New flag is ready for when the country is being formed:
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What do you think?

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 5:00 am

What would the reaction be like to Indian recognition of Kurdistan and occupation of all Kurdsih territory?

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Imperial Avantia
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Postby Imperial Avantia » Mon May 19, 2014 5:02 am

Waztaskio wrote:Alright, although I love Jade being in the RP, his activity has always been a problem. Who wants to step up, and RP: The Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic?

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I will.
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Let that be realized. No survival for the British Empire, no survival for all that the British Empire has stood for, no survival for the urge, the impulse of the ages, that mankind shall move forward toward his goal.
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Novacom
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Postby Novacom » Mon May 19, 2014 5:03 am

Rephesus wrote:What would the reaction be like to Indian recognition of Kurdistan and occupation of all Kurdsih territory?


That would be bad as Iraq hasn't actually done anything...

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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 5:03 am

Imperial Avantia wrote:
Waztaskio wrote:Alright, although I love Jade being in the RP, his activity has always been a problem. Who wants to step up, and RP: The Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic?

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=295466&p=20044329#p20044329

I will.

But... mighty France...

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 5:04 am

Novacom wrote:
Rephesus wrote:What would the reaction be like to Indian recognition of Kurdistan and occupation of all Kurdsih territory?


That would be bad as Iraq hasn't actually done anything...

Well they do have an oppressive dictator. Anyway, if done this wouldn't be about Iraq or Iran or Syria or Turkey. It would be about forming a Kurdish state.

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Postby Imperial Avantia » Mon May 19, 2014 5:05 am

Rephesus wrote:
Imperial Avantia wrote:I will.

But... mighty France...

I know nothing about France, but they do have a rich history, 5 republics.......
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Novacom
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Postby Novacom » Mon May 19, 2014 5:35 am

Rephesus wrote:
Novacom wrote:
That would be bad as Iraq hasn't actually done anything...

Well they do have an oppressive dictator. Anyway, if done this wouldn't be about Iraq or Iran or Syria or Turkey. It would be about forming a Kurdish state.


Forming a Kurdish state by militarily occupying a nation who in comparison to it's neighbors is a saint, a known factor in being stable not aggressive and a major oil supplier, we've already got one major oil producer as an international pariah, nobody in their right mind would let someone go ahead and wreck the other...

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 5:38 am

Novacom wrote:
Rephesus wrote:Well they do have an oppressive dictator. Anyway, if done this wouldn't be about Iraq or Iran or Syria or Turkey. It would be about forming a Kurdish state.


Forming a Kurdish state by militarily occupying a nation who in comparison to it's neighbors is a saint, a known factor in being stable not aggressive and a major oil supplier, we've already got one major oil producer as an international pariah, nobody in their right mind would let someone go ahead and wreck the other...


Wreck? And incase you forgot that entire region is going to blow up soon with turkey at war with Iran and Arabia, Indian troops in Kurdistan will likely remedy the situation, and if Iraq wants to try and stop India from protecting what may one day become a vital ally from forming they can try, but Iraqi resistance will likely hurt the oil industry more than compliance.

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Novacom
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Postby Novacom » Mon May 19, 2014 5:41 am

Rephesus wrote:
Novacom wrote:
Forming a Kurdish state by militarily occupying a nation who in comparison to it's neighbors is a saint, a known factor in being stable not aggressive and a major oil supplier, we've already got one major oil producer as an international pariah, nobody in their right mind would let someone go ahead and wreck the other...


Wreck? And incase you forgot that entire region is going to blow up soon with turkey at war with Iran and Arabia, Indian troops in Kurdistan will likely remedy the situation, and if Iraq wants to try and stop India from protecting what may one day become a vital ally from forming they can try, but Iraqi resistance will likely hurt the oil industry more than compliance.


Iraq however isn't involved in ANY of that, Indian troops wouldn't remedy anything except make things WORSE! why would Iraq want to comply with that, it's like claiming you want to create a Carthaginian state in North Africa...

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 5:52 am

Novacom wrote:
Rephesus wrote:
Wreck? And incase you forgot that entire region is going to blow up soon with turkey at war with Iran and Arabia, Indian troops in Kurdistan will likely remedy the situation, and if Iraq wants to try and stop India from protecting what may one day become a vital ally from forming they can try, but Iraqi resistance will likely hurt the oil industry more than compliance.


Iraq however isn't involved in ANY of that, Indian troops wouldn't remedy anything except make things WORSE! why would Iraq want to comply with that, it's like claiming you want to create a Carthaginian state in North Africa...


Unlike Carthage there's actually Kurdish cities and Kurdish people in those regions. Iraq, Turkey, Syria and Iran have taken no steps to gain India's favour. Having a strong pro-India state present to keep order would benefit everyone in the long term.

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Novacom
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Postby Novacom » Mon May 19, 2014 5:55 am

Rephesus wrote:
Novacom wrote:
Iraq however isn't involved in ANY of that, Indian troops wouldn't remedy anything except make things WORSE! why would Iraq want to comply with that, it's like claiming you want to create a Carthaginian state in North Africa...


Unlike Carthage there's actually Kurdish cities and Kurdish people in those regions. Iraq, Turkey, Syria and Iran have taken no steps to gain India's favour. Having a strong pro-India state present to keep order would benefit everyone in the long term.


So you claim, but it wouldn't go that way you don't invade the middle east and set up shop it doesn't work RL is prime proof of that, and certainly carving up a few states to make something that pleases you isn't going to fly with anybody either, all you'd end up doing is bleeding yourself white, accomplishing nothing but making an already complicated situation worse and likely cause a worldwide economic crash...

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 6:02 am

Novacom wrote:
Rephesus wrote:
Unlike Carthage there's actually Kurdish cities and Kurdish people in those regions. Iraq, Turkey, Syria and Iran have taken no steps to gain India's favour. Having a strong pro-India state present to keep order would benefit everyone in the long term.


So you claim, but it wouldn't go that way you don't invade the middle east and set up shop it doesn't work RL is prime proof of that, and certainly carving up a few states to make something that pleases you isn't going to fly with anybody either, all you'd end up doing is bleeding yourself white, accomplishing nothing but making an already complicated situation worse and likely cause a worldwide economic crash...


Establishing Kurdistan won't crash the global economy, especially when you have Turkey at war with Iran, that is more likely to do it.

Either way it would cause India to alienate most of the ME which is not good politics. Kurdistan will have to wait.

However, a civil war still rages on by my doorstep.

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Ugandavitz
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Postby Ugandavitz » Mon May 19, 2014 6:03 am

So, Waz, am I Russia now, or nah?
I'm here.

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 6:04 am

Rephesus wrote:India stronk, rorororo

Current invitees to Indian Ocean Conference:
Indian Union
Persia
Pan-Arab
Egypt
Wadiya
Af.Con
Austrailasia
France

Observers allowed.

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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon May 19, 2014 6:27 am

Rephesus wrote:
Rephesus wrote:India stronk, rorororo

Current invitees to Indian Ocean Conference:
Indian Union
Persia
Pan-Arab
Egypt
Wadiya
Af.Con
Austrailasia
France

Observers allowed.

:c

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Novacom
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Postby Novacom » Mon May 19, 2014 6:29 am

I might send an observer along simply as the more than a few people on that list would be trade partners.

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The Emerald Dragon
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Mon May 19, 2014 8:25 am

Screw it, international relations are a bust.

Time to become Non-Aligned.

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 8:28 am

The Emerald Dragon wrote:Screw it, international relations are a bust.

Time to become Non-Aligned.

Normally that's not a bad idea, but when you're at war that's very unintelligible.

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Limborg
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Postby Limborg » Mon May 19, 2014 8:31 am

Can someone tell me the current alliances/wars?

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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon May 19, 2014 8:31 am

Iran would support creation of Kurdistan; but only as long as India provides military support to Iran against Turkey and the US.
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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 8:33 am

Lunas Legion wrote:Iran would support creation of Kurdistan; but only as long as India provides military support to Iran against Turkey and the US.

You want us to fight the US for you? Ha. Ha. Give us everything south and east of Tehran.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon May 19, 2014 8:35 am

Rephesus wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:Iran would support creation of Kurdistan; but only as long as India provides military support to Iran against Turkey and the US.

You want us to fight the US for you? Ha. Ha. Give us everything south and east of Tehran.


US is weak. It can't fight a long war, hell, you don't even need to inflict losses. Just drag out the war, and then public opinion will turn and the US pulls out.

Besides, I doubt the US will put that many boots on the ground. Give me elements of the Indian Air Force to augument the IIAF and Turkey may as well give up.
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Limborg
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Postby Limborg » Mon May 19, 2014 8:37 am

Lunas Legion wrote:Iran would support creation of Kurdistan; but only as long as India provides military support to Iran against Turkey and the US.


I could help you in a war, sending some men to Iran... We believe that Middle-Eastern nations should deal with Middle-Eastern nations, and therefor we stand against intervention from non Middle-Eastern nations such as the US.

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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon May 19, 2014 8:41 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Rephesus wrote:You want us to fight the US for you? Ha. Ha. Give us everything south and east of Tehran.


US is weak. It can't fight a long war, hell, you don't even need to inflict losses. Just drag out the war, and then public opinion will turn and the US pulls out.

Besides, I doubt the US will put that many boots on the ground. Give me elements of the Indian Air Force to augument the IIAF and Turkey may as well give up.

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