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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Sun May 18, 2014 11:07 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:
Ptolemais wrote:
Unfortunately Iran dun goofed by invading Azerbaijan for reasons I fail to comprehend.

Why is everyone backing a Dirty Commie state over the much-more-helpful Iran?


Turkey is Communist?

Debating to curbstomp kebab now or...

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Imperial Baekchae
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Postby Imperial Baekchae » Sun May 18, 2014 11:09 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:
Ptolemais wrote:
Unfortunately Iran dun goofed by invading Azerbaijan for reasons I fail to comprehend.

Why is everyone backing a Dirty Commie state over the much-more-helpful Iran?

I don't even know why.

Why AM I trying to help turkey? Be back guys. Time to go support Iran instead.
Current RPS: The Republic of China in 1992

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Doitsu-san
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Postby Doitsu-san » Sun May 18, 2014 11:26 pm

Rephesus wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Why is everyone backing a Dirty Commie state over the much-more-helpful Iran?


Turkey is Communist?

Debating to curbstomp kebab now or...

Yes, of course Turkey is Communist. I have obviously stated that multiple times and if anyone even bothered to look at my app they could see that it has communist plastered all over it *nods head*
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Поддержка Крым
وأناأؤيدالأسد ויוה ישראל
该中国共和国是中国!

-Rhenish Model
-Limited Democracy
-Liberal Social Policy
-Foreign Interventionism

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Sun May 18, 2014 11:29 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:
Rephesus wrote:
Turkey is Communist?

Debating to curbstomp kebab now or...

Yes, of course Turkey is Communist. I have obviously stated that multiple times and if anyone even bothered to look at my app they could see that it has communist plastered all over it...


Its a weird socialist Ba'athist natiomalist state with a magically decent economy.

Interesting.

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Ptolemais
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Postby Ptolemais » Sun May 18, 2014 11:33 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:Why is everyone backing a Dirty Commie state over the much-more-helpful Iran?


Holy shit, Turkey actually is a dictatorship. For some reason I just assumed it was democratic. I think you guys should stop Iran, but don't aid Turkey unless you want to promote "Pan-Turkism" aka Neo-Imperialism.
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Scandinavian Union in 1992 Modern Scenario (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=295466) [Co-OP]
Japan in 2016 Modern World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=283184) [Co-OP]
Canada in 2014 Real World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=272910)
Great Shogunate of Japan in 1914 AH RP - The Great War (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=287302)
Orb Union in Pandyssia, Blood and Iron (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=289399)
LIKES: Secularism, Meritocracy, Technocracy, Aristocracy, Constitutional Monarchy
DISLIKES: Militant Atheism, Fundamentalism, Radical Feminism, Plutocracy, Communism

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Doitsu-san
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Postby Doitsu-san » Sun May 18, 2014 11:34 pm

Rephesus wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:Yes, of course Turkey is Communist. I have obviously stated that multiple times and if anyone even bothered to look at my app they could see that it has communist plastered all over it...


Its a weird socialist Ba'athist natiomalist state with a magically decent economy.

Interesting.

Ba'athism is closer to Fascism than it is to Communism. "Socialism" is just a coverword, it is basically State Capitalism
Volk! Reich! Doitsu-san!
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وأناأؤيدالأسد ויוה ישראל
该中国共和国是中国!

-Rhenish Model
-Limited Democracy
-Liberal Social Policy
-Foreign Interventionism

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Sun May 18, 2014 11:35 pm

Remind me why I should just go Curbstomp Turkey and give Iran a slap on the wrist?

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Doitsu-san
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Postby Doitsu-san » Sun May 18, 2014 11:36 pm

Ptolemais wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Why is everyone backing a Dirty Commie state over the much-more-helpful Iran?


Holy shit, Turkey actually is a dictatorship. For some reason I just assumed it was democratic. I think you guys should stop Iran, but don't aid Turkey unless you want to promote "Pan-Turkism" aka Neo-Imperialism.

It's not a dictatorship, it's actually a very convincing democracy.

However one party holds the real power, but the Presidents change and elections are held. Pan-Turkism actually benefits the West, since most nations with Turkic populations are Communist or Communist-sympathizers (e.g. Bulgaria, Yugoslavia)
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Поддержка Крым
وأناأؤيدالأسد ויוה ישראל
该中国共和国是中国!

-Rhenish Model
-Limited Democracy
-Liberal Social Policy
-Foreign Interventionism

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Ptolemais
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Postby Ptolemais » Sun May 18, 2014 11:39 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:It's not a dictatorship, it's actually a very convincing democracy.

However one party holds the real power, but the Presidents change and elections are held. Pan-Turkism actually benefits the West, since most nations with Turkic populations are Communist or Communist-sympathizers (e.g. Bulgaria, Yugoslavia)


"Muh west" won't work on Scandinavia. Also, Turkey will never be part of the West if it's fascist as you say.
CURRENT:
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Scandinavian Union in 1992 Modern Scenario (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=295466) [Co-OP]
Japan in 2016 Modern World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=283184) [Co-OP]
Canada in 2014 Real World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=272910)
Great Shogunate of Japan in 1914 AH RP - The Great War (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=287302)
Orb Union in Pandyssia, Blood and Iron (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=289399)
LIKES: Secularism, Meritocracy, Technocracy, Aristocracy, Constitutional Monarchy
DISLIKES: Militant Atheism, Fundamentalism, Radical Feminism, Plutocracy, Communism

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Doitsu-san
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Postby Doitsu-san » Sun May 18, 2014 11:41 pm

Ptolemais wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:It's not a dictatorship, it's actually a very convincing democracy.

However one party holds the real power, but the Presidents change and elections are held. Pan-Turkism actually benefits the West, since most nations with Turkic populations are Communist or Communist-sympathizers (e.g. Bulgaria, Yugoslavia)


"Muh west" won't work on Scandinavia. Also, Turkey will never be part of the West if it's fascist as you say.

Ba'athism is not Fascism, it is remotely close to fascism but not fascism itself.

It just advocates a state oriented economy, nationalism, and secularism. Turkey doesn't restrict liberties like Fascism.
Volk! Reich! Doitsu-san!
Economic Left/Right: -3.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.26

Поддержка Крым
وأناأؤيدالأسد ויוה ישראל
该中国共和国是中国!

-Rhenish Model
-Limited Democracy
-Liberal Social Policy
-Foreign Interventionism

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Sun May 18, 2014 11:43 pm

Neo-imperialism won't be tolerated by India. A single grain of foreign sand that is annexed by turkey will result in action.
And unlike greece, 'superior numbers' won't be your winning factor.

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Ptolemais
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Postby Ptolemais » Sun May 18, 2014 11:46 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:Ba'athism is not Fascism, it is remotely close to fascism but not fascism itself.

It just advocates a state oriented economy, nationalism, and secularism. Turkey doesn't restrict liberties like Fascism.


Still, it's not democratic, which is a major sticking point for any state that wants to be Western. You'll always be an outsider, ready to be dropped at a moments notice when it hits the fan, but maybe you'll be a useful outsider ;)
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Scandinavian Union in 1992 Modern Scenario (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=295466) [Co-OP]
Japan in 2016 Modern World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=283184) [Co-OP]
Canada in 2014 Real World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=272910)
Great Shogunate of Japan in 1914 AH RP - The Great War (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=287302)
Orb Union in Pandyssia, Blood and Iron (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=289399)
LIKES: Secularism, Meritocracy, Technocracy, Aristocracy, Constitutional Monarchy
DISLIKES: Militant Atheism, Fundamentalism, Radical Feminism, Plutocracy, Communism

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Lunas Legion
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sun May 18, 2014 11:47 pm

Ptolemais wrote:
Rephesus wrote:China and the US throwing their weight behind an imperialist Turkey against a rather stable source of Oil which is Iran...

What could go wrong?


Unfortunately Iran dun goofed by invading Azerbaijan for reasons I fail to comprehend.


Because Iran needs oil since it lost all of it's oil to Iraq and has been slowly declining through the previous decade due to a lack of income.
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United commonwealth of ayrshire
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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Sun May 18, 2014 11:48 pm

So, in today's post:
Replies to PAE, Turkey, Brazil, Scandinavia
Declaration of war on Iran
Message to all NATO nations.
Message requesting Chinese assistance in Iran
Message requesting state visit to Canada.
News from the New York Times.

It'll be a lot to get through, but ill get it sorted by this evening (GMT)
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Arkolon: You better be as chill as Ayrshire
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Socialism100
Tenderness40.625
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Your attitudes towards economics appear communist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a humanist. 
To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a sensible realistic egalitarian with several strong convictions.
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Ptolemais
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Postby Ptolemais » Sun May 18, 2014 11:59 pm

I assume by UAE, China means the Pan Arab Empire.

Damn, those are some humiliating conditions. Scandinavian information technology better not fall into Chinese hands...
CURRENT:
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FORMER:
Scandinavian Union in 1992 Modern Scenario (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=295466) [Co-OP]
Japan in 2016 Modern World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=283184) [Co-OP]
Canada in 2014 Real World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=272910)
Great Shogunate of Japan in 1914 AH RP - The Great War (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=287302)
Orb Union in Pandyssia, Blood and Iron (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=289399)
LIKES: Secularism, Meritocracy, Technocracy, Aristocracy, Constitutional Monarchy
DISLIKES: Militant Atheism, Fundamentalism, Radical Feminism, Plutocracy, Communism

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The Emerald Dragon
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Mon May 19, 2014 12:10 am

Ptolemais wrote:I assume by UAE, China means the Pan Arab Empire.

Damn, those are some humiliating conditions. Scandinavian information technology better not fall into Chinese hands...


We have... ways of keeping China away from your technology.

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 12:11 am

Dammit China, always forcing my hand :p

And NATO war on Iran? How convenient.

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Ptolemais
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Postby Ptolemais » Mon May 19, 2014 12:15 am

Rephesus wrote:Dammit China, always forcing my hand :p

And NATO war on Iran? How convenient.


Yeah, this is getting pretty unstable.

So how about that Non-Aligned Movement? I think i'll put it in my next post, we need a third alternative.
CURRENT:
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FORMER:
Scandinavian Union in 1992 Modern Scenario (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=295466) [Co-OP]
Japan in 2016 Modern World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=283184) [Co-OP]
Canada in 2014 Real World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=272910)
Great Shogunate of Japan in 1914 AH RP - The Great War (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=287302)
Orb Union in Pandyssia, Blood and Iron (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=289399)
LIKES: Secularism, Meritocracy, Technocracy, Aristocracy, Constitutional Monarchy
DISLIKES: Militant Atheism, Fundamentalism, Radical Feminism, Plutocracy, Communism

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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Mon May 19, 2014 12:18 am

Ptolemais wrote:
Rephesus wrote:Dammit China, always forcing my hand :p

And NATO war on Iran? How convenient.


Yeah, this is getting pretty unstable.

So how about that Non-Aligned Movement? I think i'll put it in my next post, we need a third alternative.

Scandinavia, India, Congo, Austrailasia, and Malaysia maybe? :p

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Ptolemais
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Postby Ptolemais » Mon May 19, 2014 12:27 am

Rephesus wrote:Scandinavia, India, Congo, Austrailasia, and Malaysia maybe? :p


That would be a mighty movement indeed.
CURRENT:
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FORMER:
Scandinavian Union in 1992 Modern Scenario (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=295466) [Co-OP]
Japan in 2016 Modern World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=283184) [Co-OP]
Canada in 2014 Real World RP (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=272910)
Great Shogunate of Japan in 1914 AH RP - The Great War (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=287302)
Orb Union in Pandyssia, Blood and Iron (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=289399)
LIKES: Secularism, Meritocracy, Technocracy, Aristocracy, Constitutional Monarchy
DISLIKES: Militant Atheism, Fundamentalism, Radical Feminism, Plutocracy, Communism

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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon May 19, 2014 12:29 am


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Doitsu-san
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Postby Doitsu-san » Mon May 19, 2014 12:32 am


1) I thought you were reffering to Turkey
2) The ASSR fell in 1991, this is 1992
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Поддержка Крым
وأناأؤيدالأسد ויוה ישראל
该中国共和国是中国!

-Rhenish Model
-Limited Democracy
-Liberal Social Policy
-Foreign Interventionism

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The New Lowlands
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Founded: Jun 26, 2011
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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon May 19, 2014 12:33 am

Doitsu-san wrote:

1) I thought you were reffering to Turkey
2) The ASSR fell in 1991, this is 1992

They're still Dirty Commies.

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Imperial Baekchae
Envoy
 
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Founded: May 08, 2014
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Postby Imperial Baekchae » Mon May 19, 2014 12:41 am

The Emerald Dragon wrote:
Ptolemais wrote:I assume by UAE, China means the Pan Arab Empire.

Damn, those are some humiliating conditions. Scandinavian information technology better not fall into Chinese hands...


We have... ways of keeping China away from your technology.

Not really. Ill get my way eventually. Especially if I were to aid Iraq and Turkey.
Current RPS: The Republic of China in 1992

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Limborg
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Postby Limborg » Mon May 19, 2014 3:35 am

Can somebody tell me what Alliances are out there and what nations are at war/going to war?

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