1938: A Prelude to War (Reboot/OOC/Open)

[Marsisian]

Why'd you raise it when I'm telling you that you have extremely low support?

I thought you were talking about my application of 'one million.'

However, occupying Japan in the FIRST place makes little sense, haha. The population would not be easily 'brainwashed' that quickly.

Yeah, they didn't lie down (and even then, still resenting) until the late 1860s, but some people still hate us for some reason.

[Marsisian]

You know that they revolted massively in 1869, completely pushed me off the mainland, I only had a few bases in the Kurils. I had to devote a ton of troops putting down the rebellion and slaughtered a lot of Samurai.

Then I'll change the date.

It still makes little sense. You somehow retook all of Japan from the Kurils....

Hmm... Kyushu and Hokkaido instead, then.

[Sabara]

You know that they revolted massively in 1869, completely pushed me off the mainland, I only had a few bases in the Kurils. I had to devote a ton of troops putting down the rebellion and slaughtered a lot of Samurai.

Then I'll change the date.

It still makes little sense. You somehow retook all of Japan from the Kurils....

Exactly.

Think of how difficult it was for Americans to take Okinawa ALONE in WWII..

[Epraria]

It still makes little sense. You somehow retook all of Japan from the Kurils....

Hmm... Kyushu and Hokkaido instead, then.

Ah yes Kyushu home island of the mighty Satzuma and Otomo clans.

[Marsisian]

It still makes little sense. You somehow retook all of Japan from the Kurils....

Exactly.

Think of how difficult it was for Americans to take Okinawa ALONE in WWII..

Some Japanese did help us, but they were mostly located in Hokkaido, and that island's sparsely populated.

A major factor that we did keep Japan was that the Imperial Court and Shogunate were still squabbling in Honshu over who got to govern the country, and a war erupted between them in their war against us.

[Sabara]

I thought you were talking about my application of 'one million.'

However, occupying Japan in the FIRST place makes little sense, haha. The population would not be easily 'brainwashed' that quickly.

Yeah, they didn't lie down (and even then, still resenting) until the late 1860s, but some people still hate us for some reason.

It's extremely unrealistic for an overseas country (especially Japan) to remain that docile to white colonizers.

[Marsisian]

Yeah, they didn't lie down (and even then, still resenting) until the late 1860s, but some people still hate us for some reason.

It's extremely unrealistic for an overseas country (especially Japan) to remain that docile to white colonizers.

Yes, that is true.

[Sabara]

Exactly.

Think of how difficult it was for Americans to take Okinawa ALONE in WWII..

Some Japanese did help us, but they were mostly located in Hokkaido, and that island's sparsely populated.

A major factor that we did keep Japan was that the Imperial Court and Shogunate were still squabbling in Honshu over who got to govern the country, and a war erupted between them in their war against us.

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't go down without inflicting severe, EXTREMELY severe casualties on your men.

[Marsisian]

I suppose Australia could be my territory in the Pacific, if you guys really are intent on making Japan independent.

[Epraria]

Some Japanese did help us, but they were mostly located in Hokkaido, and that island's sparsely populated.

A major factor that we did keep Japan was that the Imperial Court and Shogunate were still squabbling in Honshu over who got to govern the country, and a war erupted between them in their war against us.

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't go down without inflicting severe, EXTREMELY severe casualties on your men.

We are talking about all the Samurai clans in Japan and the Imperial and shogunate forces after all. Also again why is Jeju in Columbia's colors on the map?

[Bujahla]

It's extremely unrealistic for an overseas country (especially Japan) to remain that docile to white colonizers.

Yes, that is true.

It should be at maybe 60% approval rating, if that. Japanese are extremely nationalistic and the brutal force needed to control it is hardly realistic. I would imagine that possibly taking Hokkiado and maybe some other small parts might be possible, but actual control of it? Hardly. Besides that, I don't see you being able to pacify them/culturally-convert them in such a short amount of time.

I suppose Australia could be my territory in the Pacific, if you guys really are intent on making Japan independent.

I'd say New Zealand would be a better choice.

[Marsisian]

Yes, that is true.

It should be at maybe 60% approval rating, if that. Japanese are extremely nationalistic and the brutal force needed to control it is hardly realistic. I would imagine that possibly taking Hokkiado and maybe some other small parts might be possible, but actual control of it? Hardly. Besides that, I don't see you being able to pacify them/culturally-convert them in such a short amount of time.

I suppose Australia could be my territory in the Pacific, if you guys really are intent on making Japan independent.

I'd say New Zealand would be a better choice.

And why would that be?

[Garwall]

Why'd you raise it when I'm telling you that you have extremely low support?

I thought you were talking about my application of 'one million.'

However, occupying Japan in the FIRST place makes little sense, haha. The population would not be easily 'brainwashed' that quickly.

I think this whole concept of "Japanese won't surrender" isn't wholly accurate for the scenario in which Mars paints. His occupation would come when Japan is still relatively fractured, and would probably coalesce to foreign rule given enough time. The initial occupation is what lacks sense, though--the island has little resources except some silver mines.

[Bujahla]

It should be at maybe 60% approval rating, if that. Japanese are extremely nationalistic and the brutal force needed to control it is hardly realistic. I would imagine that possibly taking Hokkiado and maybe some other small parts might be possible, but actual control of it? Hardly. Besides that, I don't see you being able to pacify them/culturally-convert them in such a short amount of time.



I'd say New Zealand would be a better choice.

And why would that be?

Because New Zealand is smaller and easier to control? I suppose it wouldn't matter, but it'd be fairer (and more plausible) if you took New Zealand that way we could have an Australian player.

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BTW, I posted in the IC viewtopic.php?f=31&t=295234&p=20015737#p20015737
Telegrammed the following:
- British | Italians | Scandinavians | Colombians | Americans | Persians | Danuibian | Romans | Chileans | any other democratic nation (so I guess Brazil as well).

[Marsisian]

@Buj

*COLUMBIAN, COLUMBIA

Columbia
Colombia

[Bujahla]

@Buj

*COLUMBIAN, COLUMBIA

Columbia
Colombia

*shrugs* You know what I meant.

[Marsisian]

Perhaps I could only control the east of Australia? Or maybe the Australians are a dominion of me, they'd be shown as me on the map and a player could still play them?

[Sabara]

So we could (potentially) have an open Japan?

[Marsisian]

So we could (potentially) have an open Japan?

We've got to settle this Australia business first.

[Bujahla]

So we could (potentially) have an open Japan?

We've got to settle this Australia business first.

How you would steal if from the British, I have no idea...

[Marsisian]

We've got to settle this Australia business first.

How you would steal if from the British, I have no idea...

Didn't the British player said he didn't want colonies?

[Saragrossa]

How you would steal if from the British, I have no idea...

Didn't the British player said he didn't want colonies?

LETS Crave them up lol

[Bujahla]

How you would steal if from the British, I have no idea...

Didn't the British player said he didn't want colonies?

*shrugs* Still would mean someone would have colonized it.

[Marsisian]

Didn't the British player said he didn't want colonies?

*shrugs* Still would mean someone would have colonized it.

*points to self*

[Bujahla]

*shrugs* Still would mean someone would have colonized it.

*points to self*

I meant a european power.....