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Postby Doitsu-san » Fri May 09, 2014 3:00 pm

Spain gives up Cuba, you win your now worthless island, Communists.

Anyways, I will start the meeting immediately and I will suggest Columbia signs on before it is the next target of America.
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Postby Marsisian » Fri May 09, 2014 3:00 pm

Zumreed wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Uh... no. Japan is loyal to us now, because their fanatical spirit was wiped out by the 1900s and we helped them in many ways. So.... they'd fight until the end against you. We're not oppressors, you're the imperialist oppressor.

Well, that's what all Colonial powers like to say...

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Postby Marsisian » Fri May 09, 2014 3:01 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:Spain gives up Cuba, you win your now worthless island, Communists.

Anyways, I will start the meeting immediately and I will suggest Columbia signs on before it is the next target of America.

Can we combine our two alliances? Or something like that?
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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 3:02 pm

Jade Confederacy wrote:
Epraria wrote:Actually they weren't mass produced until 1942. At most there was a little over 100 by 1940.

America didnt plan on going to war at the time in RL so of course they wernt mass produced. The American politburo has been itching to invade Cuba since the early 30s in the RP so production would have been ramp up the second the testing was done

Except the B-17 didn't become effective until the E variant that was developed in 1941.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

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Postby Marsisian » Fri May 09, 2014 3:02 pm

Lisbane wrote:Name of your Rebel Group:The Chinese Freedom Fighters
Country that you are rebelling in:China
Base of Operations:Zhangzhou
Number of Followers/Members:30,000
Why you are rebelling:Because we want the nation of china to be free and beautiful once again
Popular support:Yes
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Actually, no, not accepted
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Postby Bujahla » Fri May 09, 2014 3:02 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:Spain gives up Cuba, you win your now worthless island, Communists.

Anyways, I will start the meeting immediately and I will suggest Columbia signs on before it is the next target of America.

Can we combine our two alliances? Or something like that?


No.
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Postby Doitsu-san » Fri May 09, 2014 3:02 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:Spain gives up Cuba, you win your now worthless island, Communists.

Anyways, I will start the meeting immediately and I will suggest Columbia signs on before it is the next target of America.

Can we combine our two alliances? Or something like that?

Columbia, frankly, I am in no mood for compromise. You either join the Pact or get eaten by America.
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Postby Marsisian » Fri May 09, 2014 3:03 pm

Bujahla wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Can we combine our two alliances? Or something like that?


No.

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Postby Marsisian » Fri May 09, 2014 3:04 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Can we combine our two alliances? Or something like that?

Columbia, frankly, I am in no mood for compromise. You either join the Pact or get eaten by America.

Fascist oppressors. I can survive America's onslaught on the innocent. You can't.
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Postby Marsisian » Fri May 09, 2014 3:06 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Epraria wrote:Yes because invading China is such a good idea. It's not like i have a much larger manpower poll and am allied to the other giant in Asia, Russia.
Also:
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Invading China would be Vietnam, but much, much larger.

And we still need to deal with Colombia and its stupid occupation of Japan.

Occupation? :lol2:
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Postby Sabara » Fri May 09, 2014 3:07 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Sabara wrote:
Name of your Rebel Group: Josho Arashi, 'Rising Storm'
Country that you are rebelling in: Japan
Base of Operations: Sendai, mainly in the Miyagi area
Number of Followers/Members: Approximately one million Japans identify with the movement, mainly in Honshu.
Why you are rebelling: The subjugation of Japan by Western forces was extremely humiliating to the Japanese people, and; lacking the weaponry, were easily defeated in any rebellion/riot. Recently, 'Josho Arashi', the main resistance group in Japan, has been secretly gathering support among the populace and sabotaging Columbian infrastructure all over Japan. They want a free country for the Japanese.
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You'd have extremely low popular support and members.

I suppose I can raise it to around forty mil.
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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 3:07 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Epraria wrote:Except China can easily become a power house. With it's gigantic population and resources.

Also: I have also planned the "liberation" of Japan. I would at least have the support of the Japanese people as i am culturally similar and a similar "race" who want to liberate them from their Columbian oppressors.

Uh... no. Japan is loyal to us now, because their fanatical spirit was wiped out by the 1900s and we helped them in many ways. So.... they'd fight until the end against you. We're not oppressors, you're the imperialist oppressor.

You know this makes little sense. How did you make the Emperor sign the treaty? How did you control Japan without the Samurai clans and Shogun rising up in anger? How did you get the Japanese not to want independence? They'd hate being known as nothing more tan a glorified colony. Korea has more independence in the world's eyes. Also hod did England take Spain's most valuable colony in 1610 so easily? The Spanish would have made it a fierce fight especially seeing how the English barely had any presence in the new world in 1610?
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri May 09, 2014 3:08 pm

Epraria wrote:
Jade Confederacy wrote:America didnt plan on going to war at the time in RL so of course they wernt mass produced. The American politburo has been itching to invade Cuba since the early 30s in the RP so production would have been ramp up the second the testing was done

Except the B-17 didn't become effective until the E variant that was developed in 1941.

I'll take the E-variant when it goes into production too. Right now, B-17s are basically invulnerable with all the armor and armaments it has. You'll need a direct flack hit or 20mm cannon rounds to bring it down.
Also, Spain actually gave up Cuba without a fight? It was the wisest move, but im sort of disappointed. I'll need to come up with another BS excuse to invade the Philippians.

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Postby Sabara » Fri May 09, 2014 3:08 pm

Epraria wrote:
Lithuanian Empire wrote:Because people are clever.

Except China can easily become a power house. With it's gigantic population and resources.

Also: I have also planned the "liberation" of Japan. I would at least have the support of the Japanese people as i am culturally similar and a similar "race" who want to liberate them from their Columbian oppressors.

China is extremely different to Japan in many, many ways..
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Postby Marsisian » Fri May 09, 2014 3:09 pm

Epraria wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Uh... no. Japan is loyal to us now, because their fanatical spirit was wiped out by the 1900s and we helped them in many ways. So.... they'd fight until the end against you. We're not oppressors, you're the imperialist oppressor.

You know this makes little sense. How did you make the Emperor sign the treaty? How did you control Japan without the Samurai clans and Shogun rising up in anger? How did you get the Japanese not to want independence? They'd hate being known as nothing more tan a glorified colony. Korea has more independence in the world's eyes. Also hod did England take Spain's most valuable colony in 1610 so easily? The Spanish would have made it a fierce fight especially seeing how the English barely had any presence in the new world in 1610?

You know that they revolted massively in 1869, completely pushed me off the mainland, I only had a few bases in the Kurils. I had to devote a ton of troops putting down the rebellion and slaughtered a lot of Samurai.

Then I'll change the date.
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Postby Marsisian » Fri May 09, 2014 3:10 pm

Sabara wrote:
Marsisian wrote:You'd have extremely low popular support and members.

I suppose I can raise it to around forty mil.

Why'd you raise it when I'm telling you that you have extremely low support?
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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 3:11 pm

Sabara wrote:
Epraria wrote:Except China can easily become a power house. With it's gigantic population and resources.

Also: I have also planned the "liberation" of Japan. I would at least have the support of the Japanese people as i am culturally similar and a similar "race" who want to liberate them from their Columbian oppressors.

China is extremely different to Japan in many, many ways..

I know.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

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Postby Zumreed » Fri May 09, 2014 3:11 pm

Epraria wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Uh... no. Japan is loyal to us now, because their fanatical spirit was wiped out by the 1900s and we helped them in many ways. So.... they'd fight until the end against you. We're not oppressors, you're the imperialist oppressor.

You know this makes little sense. How did you make the Emperor sign the treaty? How did you control Japan without the Samurai clans and Shogun rising up in anger? How did you get the Japanese not to want independence? They'd hate being known as nothing more tan a glorified colony. Korea has more independence in the world's eyes. Also hod did England take Spain's most valuable colony in 1610 so easily? The Spanish would have made it a fierce fight especially seeing how the English barely had any presence in the new world in 1610?



Marisian, I think it is a little OP that the Japanese would just lie down like that. Colonies are always looking for independence. You can't have a 100% Loyalty rating with a country you're occupying.
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Postby Garwall » Fri May 09, 2014 3:12 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:Spain gives up Cuba, you win your now worthless island, Communists.

Anyways, I will start the meeting immediately and I will suggest Columbia signs on before it is the next target of America.

Can we combine our two alliances? Or something like that?


Co-belligerency is quite possible. For example, Nazi Germany and the Finns were never allied, but they operated in tangent against Russia.
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Postby Marsisian » Fri May 09, 2014 3:12 pm

Zumreed wrote:
Epraria wrote:You know this makes little sense. How did you make the Emperor sign the treaty? How did you control Japan without the Samurai clans and Shogun rising up in anger? How did you get the Japanese not to want independence? They'd hate being known as nothing more tan a glorified colony. Korea has more independence in the world's eyes. Also hod did England take Spain's most valuable colony in 1610 so easily? The Spanish would have made it a fierce fight especially seeing how the English barely had any presence in the new world in 1610?



Marisian, I think it is a little OP that the Japanese would just lie down like that. Colonies are always looking for independence. You can't have a 100% Loyalty rating with a country you're occupying.

Not 100 percent loyalty, there are still some underground fanatics who wish for an Imperial Court restoration.
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Postby Marsisian » Fri May 09, 2014 3:13 pm

Garwall wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Can we combine our two alliances? Or something like that?


Co-belligerency is quite possible. For example, Nazi Germany and the Finns were never allied, but they operated in tangent against Russia.

It could be something like that.
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Postby Zumreed » Fri May 09, 2014 3:13 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Zumreed wrote:

Marisian, I think it is a little OP that the Japanese would just lie down like that. Colonies are always looking for independence. You can't have a 100% Loyalty rating with a country you're occupying.

Not 100 percent loyalty, there are still some underground fanatics who wish for an Imperial Court restoration.

That, and that they would die Banzai style for you.
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Postby Sabara » Fri May 09, 2014 3:13 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Sabara wrote:I suppose I can raise it to around forty mil.

Why'd you raise it when I'm telling you that you have extremely low support?

I thought you were talking about my application of 'one million.'

However, occupying Japan in the FIRST place makes little sense, haha. The population would not be easily 'brainwashed' that quickly.
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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri May 09, 2014 3:14 pm

Zumreed wrote:Marisian, I think it is a little OP that the Japanese would just lie down like that. Colonies are always looking for independence. You can't have a 100% Loyalty rating with a country you're occupying.

Yea, unless your connected to a colony via land like Russia, holding onto oversea possession become increasingly difficult over time. Even the Indians, who were considered docile colonial subjects to the British wanted independence when it got the chance.

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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 3:14 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Epraria wrote:You know this makes little sense. How did you make the Emperor sign the treaty? How did you control Japan without the Samurai clans and Shogun rising up in anger? How did you get the Japanese not to want independence? They'd hate being known as nothing more tan a glorified colony. Korea has more independence in the world's eyes. Also hod did England take Spain's most valuable colony in 1610 so easily? The Spanish would have made it a fierce fight especially seeing how the English barely had any presence in the new world in 1610?

You know that they revolted massively in 1869, completely pushed me off the mainland, I only had a few bases in the Kurils. I had to devote a ton of troops putting down the rebellion and slaughtered a lot of Samurai.

Then I'll change the date.

It still makes little sense. You somehow retook all of Japan from the Kurils....
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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