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Doitsu-san
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Postby Doitsu-san » Fri May 09, 2014 2:00 pm

Bujahla wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:Well it's too late. I am not just going to fork over my territories to an imperialistic America, it's not happening. You can either join the Pact and support us, defeating America and getting lots of territories in the process, or, you can stay where you are, watch the Americans take over the Philippines, and take their imperialism to China in the near future. I didn't start this war, but I intend to end it.


Why the hell is America going to invade China? If anything, they'd aim for Colombia or something closer to home. They won't make the same mistakes you are going to.

Their goal is a global revolution. They will invade us all eventually, it is logical to take care of them now when we have the resources to do so, and are not fighting on four different continents. I am continuing this war with or without my allies, I will drive America and Spain to a mutual, exhausting, long war, or we can all join together and defeat the red menace.
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Postby Bujahla » Fri May 09, 2014 2:01 pm

Epraria wrote:Also Jade i have been meaning to ask you how you got so many B-17's when it was introduced in April 1938 and it's still February IIRC


I thought it was January??? woops

Doitsu-san wrote:
Bujahla wrote:
Why the hell is America going to invade China? If anything, they'd aim for Colombia or something closer to home. They won't make the same mistakes you are going to.

Their goal is a global revolution. They will invade us all eventually, it is logical to take care of them now when we have the resources to do so, and are not fighting on four different continents. I am continuing this war with or without my allies, I will drive America and Spain to a mutual, exhausting, long war, or we can all join together and defeat the red menace.


:rofl: :rofl: So you are the type of person who would have had America go to war against the USSR, eh?
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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 2:03 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:
Bujahla wrote:
Why the hell is America going to invade China? If anything, they'd aim for Colombia or something closer to home. They won't make the same mistakes you are going to.

Their goal is a global revolution. They will invade us all eventually, it is logical to take care of them now when we have the resources to do so, and are not fighting on four different continents. I am continuing this war with or without my allies, I will drive America and Spain to a mutual, exhausting, long war, or we can all join together and defeat the red menace.

Garwall do you think it's worth defending the Spaniards and their honor?

Also we won't be able to win on the mainland. Just give up Cuba and retain the Philippines and your pacific possessions. They are worth the loss. Especially when compared to what you will gain if you are fully prepared and not exhausted from war when WW2 rolls in.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



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Postby Garwall » Fri May 09, 2014 2:03 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:
Bujahla wrote:
Why the hell is America going to invade China? If anything, they'd aim for Colombia or something closer to home. They won't make the same mistakes you are going to.

Their goal is a global revolution. They will invade us all eventually, it is logical to take care of them now when we have the resources to do so, and are not fighting on four different continents. I am continuing this war with or without my allies, I will drive America and Spain to a mutual, exhausting, long war, or we can all join together and defeat the red menace.


You realize you're just going to throw your men into a long war of attrition and then get annihilated by France, right?

Epraria wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:Their goal is a global revolution. They will invade us all eventually, it is logical to take care of them now when we have the resources to do so, and are not fighting on four different continents. I am continuing this war with or without my allies, I will drive America and Spain to a mutual, exhausting, long war, or we can all join together and defeat the red menace.

Garwall do you think it's worth defending the Spaniards and their honor?


Russia needs to secure its European front before anything else.
Last edited by Garwall on Fri May 09, 2014 2:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Above: The Treaty of Belgratz, the Document ratifying the Socialist Party's rise to power in Garwall.

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[15:43] <Parhe> I feel safe whenever Gar is here
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Postby Doitsu-san » Fri May 09, 2014 2:05 pm

Garwall wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:Their goal is a global revolution. They will invade us all eventually, it is logical to take care of them now when we have the resources to do so, and are not fighting on four different continents. I am continuing this war with or without my allies, I will drive America and Spain to a mutual, exhausting, long war, or we can all join together and defeat the red menace.


You realize you're just going to throw your men into a long war of attrition and then get annihilated by France, right?

Epraria wrote:Garwall do you think it's worth defending the Spaniards and their honor?


Russia needs to secure its European front before anything else.

If the Axis refuses to support me, they will lose a powerful ally and worse case scenario Spain becomes Communist. We will not bow to the Americans, and that is that. You can choose to join together and defeat them, or hang alone.
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Garwall
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Postby Garwall » Fri May 09, 2014 2:06 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:
Garwall wrote:
You realize you're just going to throw your men into a long war of attrition and then get annihilated by France, right?



Russia needs to secure its European front before anything else.

If the Axis refuses to support me, they will lose a powerful ally and worse case scenario Spain becomes Communist. We will not bow to the Americans, and that is that. You can choose to join together and defeat them, or hang alone.


No, you'll just end up alone and the rest of the Axis will band together without you. ;)

You're in a bad bargaining position. If your geopolitical position was less hopeless and more valuable to the Axis, this would be a different conversation. But the Axis doesn't have the collective power projection to attempt a rollback of the United States right now.
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"For Home and Countrymen!"

-Battle-cry used by Garwall Revolutionaries as they storm the Capitol Building, raising the Rebel Flag.
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=132814#p6655830
Above: The Treaty of Belgratz, the Document ratifying the Socialist Party's rise to power in Garwall.

[15:43] <Parhe> For some reason
[15:43] <Parhe> I feel safe whenever Gar is here
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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 2:07 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:
Garwall wrote:
You realize you're just going to throw your men into a long war of attrition and then get annihilated by France, right?



Russia needs to secure its European front before anything else.

If the Axis refuses to support me, they will lose a powerful ally and worse case scenario Spain becomes Communist. We will not bow to the Americans, and that is that. You can choose to join together and defeat them, or hang alone.

The Axis between Russia, China, Siam and i believe Germany are already united. You are just the guy who thinks he can take on one of the largest industrial giants in the world and still be ready to hold against the French.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Doitsu-san
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Postby Doitsu-san » Fri May 09, 2014 2:08 pm

Garwall wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:If the Axis refuses to support me, they will lose a powerful ally and worse case scenario Spain becomes Communist. We will not bow to the Americans, and that is that. You can choose to join together and defeat them, or hang alone.


No, you'll just end up alone and the rest of the Axis will band together without you. ;)

That is fine, then. Anyways, the Empress is going to pop the question at Madrid, and what happens is what happens.
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Postby Doitsu-san » Fri May 09, 2014 2:09 pm

Epraria wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:If the Axis refuses to support me, they will lose a powerful ally and worse case scenario Spain becomes Communist. We will not bow to the Americans, and that is that. You can choose to join together and defeat them, or hang alone.

The Axis between Russia, China, Siam and i believe Germany are already united. You are just the guy who thinks he can take on one of the largest industrial giants in the world and still be ready to hold against the French.

No, I know this war will weaken me significantly and I will probably not win by myself, but until every inch of Spanish land is occupied I will not surrender to Communists.
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وأناأؤيدالأسد ויוה ישראל
该中国共和国是中国!

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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri May 09, 2014 2:10 pm

Epraria wrote:Also Jade i have been meaning to ask you how you got so many B-17's when it was introduced in April 1938 and it's still February IIRC

They were built since 1936, so probably already in the thousands

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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 2:12 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:
Epraria wrote:The Axis between Russia, China, Siam and i believe Germany are already united. You are just the guy who thinks he can take on one of the largest industrial giants in the world and still be ready to hold against the French.

No, I know this war will weaken me significantly and I will probably not win by myself, but until every inch of Spanish land is occupied I will not surrender to Communists.

That sentiment is stupid. Just give up and let them occupy Cuba. You can retake it when the Axis have won in and dominate Eurasia and Africa. You have to learn that somethings are just lost bets.
Jade Confederacy wrote:
Epraria wrote:Also Jade i have been meaning to ask you how you got so many B-17's when it was introduced in April 1938 and it's still February IIRC

They were built since 1936, so probably already in the thousands

Actually they weren't mass produced until 1942. At most there was a little over 100 by 1940.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Postby Garwall » Fri May 09, 2014 2:15 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:
Epraria wrote:The Axis between Russia, China, Siam and i believe Germany are already united. You are just the guy who thinks he can take on one of the largest industrial giants in the world and still be ready to hold against the French.

No, I know this war will weaken me significantly and I will probably not win by myself, but until every inch of Spanish land is occupied I will not surrender to Communists.


Hey look, it's the EU3 AI! :p
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"For Home and Countrymen!"

-Battle-cry used by Garwall Revolutionaries as they storm the Capitol Building, raising the Rebel Flag.
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=132814#p6655830
Above: The Treaty of Belgratz, the Document ratifying the Socialist Party's rise to power in Garwall.

[15:43] <Parhe> For some reason
[15:43] <Parhe> I feel safe whenever Gar is here
[15:43] <Parhe> Not sure why, Garwall always made me feel safe

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Postby Doitsu-san » Fri May 09, 2014 2:23 pm

Garwall wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:No, I know this war will weaken me significantly and I will probably not win by myself, but until every inch of Spanish land is occupied I will not surrender to Communists.


Hey look, it's the EU3 AI! :p

*sigh* Fine, I'll surrender, but I will blast Havana to the ground with local munitions, clog every port with debris, and burn and salt every farmers field before I withdraw from Cuba.
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Postby Garwall » Fri May 09, 2014 2:28 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:
Garwall wrote:
Hey look, it's the EU3 AI! :p

*sigh* Fine, I'll surrender, but I will blast Havana to the ground with local munitions, clog every port with debris, and burn and salt every farmers field before I withdraw from Cuba.


It certainly won't make you popular when you return, but it'll be effective in removing US gains.
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http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=132814#p6655830
Above: The Treaty of Belgratz, the Document ratifying the Socialist Party's rise to power in Garwall.

[15:43] <Parhe> For some reason
[15:43] <Parhe> I feel safe whenever Gar is here
[15:43] <Parhe> Not sure why, Garwall always made me feel safe

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Postby Sabara » Fri May 09, 2014 2:42 pm

So am I accepted? :D
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Postby Bujahla » Fri May 09, 2014 2:43 pm

Sabara wrote:So am I accepted? :D


No. The OP is not on yet.
*Huzzah he lives!*

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Postby Sabara » Fri May 09, 2014 2:44 pm

Bujahla wrote:
Sabara wrote:So am I accepted? :D


No. The OP is not on yet.

Oh, okay. I thought Garwall was the Co-OP.
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Postby Zumreed » Fri May 09, 2014 2:52 pm

Just a notification, at the moment Siam is pro-Axis, but not officially part of it. Will post my first chapter soon.
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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri May 09, 2014 2:54 pm

Epraria wrote:Actually they weren't mass produced until 1942. At most there was a little over 100 by 1940.

America didnt plan on going to war at the time in RL so of course they wernt mass produced. The American politburo has been itching to invade Cuba since the early 30s in the RP so production would have been ramp up the second the testing was done

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Postby Marsisian » Fri May 09, 2014 2:55 pm

Epraria wrote:
Lithuanian Empire wrote:Because people are clever.

Except China can easily become a power house. With it's gigantic population and resources.

Also: I have also planned the "liberation" of Japan. I would at least have the support of the Japanese people as i am culturally similar and a similar "race" who want to liberate them from their Columbian oppressors.

Uh... no. Japan is loyal to us now, because their fanatical spirit was wiped out by the 1900s and we helped them in many ways. So.... they'd fight until the end against you. We're not oppressors, you're the imperialist oppressor.
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Postby Lisbane » Fri May 09, 2014 2:57 pm

Lisbane wrote:
Lisbane wrote:
I'm a INTJ-T Personality, I'm a turbulent Architect. I value logic and reason above all else, and despise authority, unless it furthers humanity (Government for example). You can telegram me if you'd like to have a discussion. Generally I like philosophical discussions, but any and all are welcomed.


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Postby Marsisian » Fri May 09, 2014 2:57 pm

Sabara wrote:
Name of your Rebel Group: Josho Arashi, 'Rising Storm'
Country that you are rebelling in: Japan
Base of Operations: Sendai, mainly in the Miyagi area
Number of Followers/Members: Approximately one million Japans identify with the movement, mainly in Honshu.
Why you are rebelling: The subjugation of Japan by Western forces was extremely humiliating to the Japanese people, and; lacking the weaponry, were easily defeated in any rebellion/riot. Recently, 'Josho Arashi', the main resistance group in Japan, has been secretly gathering support among the populace and sabotaging Columbian infrastructure all over Japan. They want a free country for the Japanese.
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You'd have extremely low popular support and members.
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Postby Marsisian » Fri May 09, 2014 2:57 pm

Lisbane wrote:
Lisbane wrote:
Name of your Rebel Group:The Chinese Freedom Fighters
Country that you are rebelling in:China
Base of Operations:Zhangzhou
Number of Followers/Members:30,000
Why you are rebelling:Because we want the nation of china to be free and beautiful once again
Popular support:Yes
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Accepted, I guess. You like the Boxers?
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Postby Lisbane » Fri May 09, 2014 2:58 pm

Name of your Rebel Group:The Chinese Freedom Fighters
Country that you are rebelling in:China
Base of Operations:Zhangzhou
Number of Followers/Members:30,000
Why you are rebelling:Because we want the nation of china to be free and beautiful once again
Popular support:Yes
Quality of Weapons, from 1 to 10:6
429 (It helps to find apps)
I'm a INTJ-T Personality, I'm a turbulent Architect. I value logic and reason above all else, and despise authority, unless it furthers humanity (Government for example). You can telegram me if you'd like to have a discussion. Generally I like philosophical discussions, but any and all are welcomed.


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Postby Zumreed » Fri May 09, 2014 2:59 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Epraria wrote:Except China can easily become a power house. With it's gigantic population and resources.

Also: I have also planned the "liberation" of Japan. I would at least have the support of the Japanese people as i am culturally similar and a similar "race" who want to liberate them from their Columbian oppressors.

Uh... no. Japan is loyal to us now, because their fanatical spirit was wiped out by the 1900s and we helped them in many ways. So.... they'd fight until the end against you. We're not oppressors, you're the imperialist oppressor.

Well, that's what all Colonial powers like to say...

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