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Epraria
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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 1:41 pm

Bujahla wrote:
Epraria wrote:I'm a sort of democratic nation but i joined the Fascists because well SEA and Japan. Even though an Siberian and Central Asian front between Russia and China would be awesome.


We *might* relinquish control of Indochina if you do that. *hint**hint*

To bad i'm already allied to the Russian Motherland and i have a feeling you would just give the short end of the stick because i'm china :p
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

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Postby Doitsu-san » Fri May 09, 2014 1:41 pm

This is coming together beautifully. I will also send letters to some African nations, inviting them to the conference. Together we will be able to defeat America!
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Postby Bujahla » Fri May 09, 2014 1:41 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:This is coming together beautifully. I will also send letters to some African nations, inviting them to the conference. Together we will be able to defeat America!


There are no African nations besides that one in South-Western Africa.
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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 1:42 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:This is coming together beautifully. I will also send letters to some African nations, inviting them to the conference. Together we will be able to defeat America!

Just give it up. Let America win this Round. We can always win the next round.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Postby Sabara » Fri May 09, 2014 1:42 pm

Epraria wrote:
Sabara wrote:Done.

I believe they also want the Emperor to rule again? Also don't worry your Chinese neighbors will support you.

..Some of them do. Others are more - radical, I would say.

Cool, in weapons or men?
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Postby Hawaogopi » Fri May 09, 2014 1:43 pm

Kryskov wrote:I'm not sure liberal Brazil would join a pact of Fascist nations...


Brazil is still largely ruled by an Imperial regime that is oppressive against most of its minorities. It's also fiercely anti-Communist.
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Postby Kryskov » Fri May 09, 2014 1:44 pm

Hawaogopi wrote:
Kryskov wrote:I'm not sure liberal Brazil would join a pact of Fascist nations...


Brazil is still largely ruled by an Imperial regime that is oppressive against most of its minorities. It's also fiercely anti-Communist.

So are a lot of democratic nation.

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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 1:45 pm

Sabara wrote:
Epraria wrote:I believe they also want the Emperor to rule again? Also don't worry your Chinese neighbors will support you.

..Some of them do. Others are more - radical, I would say.

Cool, in weapons or men?

Weapons. Might send some IQSP or IBI.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Postby Doitsu-san » Fri May 09, 2014 1:47 pm

Epraria wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:This is coming together beautifully. I will also send letters to some African nations, inviting them to the conference. Together we will be able to defeat America!

Just give it up. Let America win this Round. We can always win the next round.

There will be no "next round". If America wins this war they will ally with Britain and France, and when they do we cannot take them out without starting a World War.
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وأناأؤيدالأسد ויוה ישראל
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-Rhenish Model
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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 1:48 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:
Epraria wrote:Just give it up. Let America win this Round. We can always win the next round.

There will be no "next round". If America wins this war they will ally with Britain and France, and when they do we cannot take them out without starting a World War.

The point of this RP is to start WW2. Your allying with Russia, China and Germany for gods sake. These are three aggressive and imperialistic states that will start a world war at some point.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Postby Sabara » Fri May 09, 2014 1:49 pm

Epraria wrote:
Sabara wrote:..Some of them do. Others are more - radical, I would say.

Cool, in weapons or men?

Weapons. Might send some IQSP or IBI.

Awesome. I just find it kind of funny how Columbia was able to take Japan without a hitch..
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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 1:50 pm

Sabara wrote:
Epraria wrote:Weapons. Might send some IQSP or IBI.

Awesome. I just find it kind of funny how Columbia was able to take Japan without a hitch..

I have already asked how they did that without making the Shogun and Samurai clans rising up in anger.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig.
Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri May 09, 2014 1:51 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:There is a lot of reason for other powers to intervene. They can join the war at any time, if they want. Your uncalled for imperialism allows them to defend a friend like Spain and put an end to U.S. "World Revolution".

nononono, you got it wrong. im the liberator of peoples oppressed by fascist dictatorships in this one. No nation would willing to go and spend money and treasure on a foreign wars when they are not obligated to and have a bigger threat closer to home. I've got all the advantage in this war:
Im much closer to Cuba and the Philippians, which allows me to react faster, resupply faster and field more troops easier. I would have air superiority since i can field land based aircraft and i would also have the naval advantage since your fleet would have to cross the entire Atlantic to even touch me.

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Postby Doitsu-san » Fri May 09, 2014 1:51 pm

Epraria wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:There will be no "next round". If America wins this war they will ally with Britain and France, and when they do we cannot take them out without starting a World War.

The point of this RP is to start WW2. Your allying with Russia, China and Germany for gods sake. These are three aggressive and imperialistic states that will start a world war at some point.

Yes, and I simply do not care. If we fight America now, and take it out when it has no allies, we will have an upper hand in the World War. It is simple logic.
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Поддержка Крым
وأناأؤيدالأسد ויוה ישראל
该中国共和国是中国!

-Rhenish Model
-Limited Democracy
-Liberal Social Policy
-Foreign Interventionism

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Postby Doitsu-san » Fri May 09, 2014 1:52 pm

Jade Confederacy wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:There is a lot of reason for other powers to intervene. They can join the war at any time, if they want. Your uncalled for imperialism allows them to defend a friend like Spain and put an end to U.S. "World Revolution".

nononono, you got it wrong. im the liberator of peoples oppressed by fascist dictatorships in this one. No nation would willing to go and spend money and treasure on a foreign wars when they are not obligated to and have a bigger threat closer to home. I've got all the advantage in this war:
Im much closer to Cuba and the Philippians, which allows me to react faster, resupply faster and field more troops easier. I would have air superiority since i can field land based aircraft and i would also have the naval advantage since your fleet would have to cross the entire Atlantic to even touch me.

"liberator of peoples oppressed by fascist dictatorships in this one."
Yeah, invading other nations isn't "liberation". The Cubans are satisfied with the monarchy, and aren't Cubans. The policy of "La Vengaza" as pretty much made them Spaniards.
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وأناأؤيدالأسد ויוה ישראל
该中国共和国是中国!

-Rhenish Model
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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 1:53 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:
Epraria wrote:The point of this RP is to start WW2. Your allying with Russia, China and Germany for gods sake. These are three aggressive and imperialistic states that will start a world war at some point.

Yes, and I simply do not care. If we fight America now, and take it out when it has no allies, we will have an upper hand in the World War. It is simple logic.

No. You are biting more than you can chew right now. I don't want to start this RP with a war. I want to see the buildup to a second great war. Not a Spanish-American war.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Postby Sabara » Fri May 09, 2014 1:54 pm

Epraria wrote:
Sabara wrote:Awesome. I just find it kind of funny how Columbia was able to take Japan without a hitch..

I have already asked how they did that without making the Shogun and Samurai clans rising up in anger.

Well, once I'm accepted, would you like to have a meeting with Japan's top revolutionist leader?
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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 1:54 pm

Sabara wrote:
Epraria wrote:I have already asked how they did that without making the Shogun and Samurai clans rising up in anger.

Well, once I'm accepted, would you like to have a meeting with Japan's top revolutionist leader?

Yes. I would like to do that.
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig.
Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri May 09, 2014 1:54 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:Jade, what branch of communism does the US follow? Trotskyism, Stalinism, Marxism-Leninism, Maoism, etc?

Its more democratic socialist in this one; but thats communism in this RP. I haven't done enough research to get a clear picture yet, so i'll answer that question later

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Postby Garwall » Fri May 09, 2014 1:55 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:
Epraria wrote:The point of this RP is to start WW2. Your allying with Russia, China and Germany for gods sake. These are three aggressive and imperialistic states that will start a world war at some point.

Yes, and I simply do not care. If we fight America now, and take it out when it has no allies, we will have an upper hand in the World War. It is simple logic.


The bigger chance is we fight America and lose/stalemate, which simply exhausts resources. It's the "cut-your-losses" strategy: take the defeat and save your resources/manpower/fleet to fight enemies closer at home.
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Postby Doitsu-san » Fri May 09, 2014 1:56 pm

Epraria wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:Yes, and I simply do not care. If we fight America now, and take it out when it has no allies, we will have an upper hand in the World War. It is simple logic.

No. You are biting more than you can chew right now. I don't want to start this RP with a war. I want to see the buildup to a second great war. Not a Spanish-American war.

Well it's too late. I am not just going to fork over my territories to an imperialistic America, it's not happening. You can either join the Pact and support us, defeating America and getting lots of territories in the process, or, you can stay where you are, watch the Americans take over the Philippines, and take their imperialism to China in the near future. I didn't start this war, but I intend to end it.
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وأناأؤيدالأسد ויוה ישראל
该中国共和国是中国!

-Rhenish Model
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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 1:56 pm

Garwall wrote:
Doitsu-san wrote:Yes, and I simply do not care. If we fight America now, and take it out when it has no allies, we will have an upper hand in the World War. It is simple logic.


The bigger chance is we fight America and lose/stalemate, which simply exhausts resources. It's the "cut-your-losses" strategy: take the defeat and save your resources/manpower/fleet to fight enemies closer at home.

Exactly. We need to build up and get a coherent strategy before we do anything.
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HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Postby Jade Confederacy » Fri May 09, 2014 1:57 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:"liberator of peoples oppressed by fascist dictatorships in this one."
Yeah, invading other nations isn't "liberation". The Cubans are satisfied with the monarchy, and aren't Cubans. The policy of "La Vengaza" as pretty much made them Spaniards.

Cubans are Cubans, who would defiantly want a independent nation after being apart of a fascist empire that scored even lower than me on the freedoms scale. Communism also has a great appeal to the lower classes since they get free land and services in the deal.

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Postby Bujahla » Fri May 09, 2014 1:58 pm

Doitsu-san wrote:
Epraria wrote:No. You are biting more than you can chew right now. I don't want to start this RP with a war. I want to see the buildup to a second great war. Not a Spanish-American war.

Well it's too late. I am not just going to fork over my territories to an imperialistic America, it's not happening. You can either join the Pact and support us, defeating America and getting lots of territories in the process, or, you can stay where you are, watch the Americans take over the Philippines, and take their imperialism to China in the near future. I didn't start this war, but I intend to end it.


Why the hell is America going to invade China? If anything, they'd aim for Colombia or something closer to home. They won't make the same mistakes you are going to.
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Postby Epraria » Fri May 09, 2014 1:58 pm

Also Jade i have been meaning to ask you how you got so many B-17's when it was introduced in April 1938 and it's still February IIRC
You can call me Easy-E or Eppie if you want but you can if you are really lazy call me Ep.
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98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig.
Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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My proud anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ5dSdxUGLc

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