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Postby Hetland 2 » Mon May 12, 2014 9:55 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:I wanted to ask you guys about that actually. Should everyone post their fight at once, or should we do them one at a time? And should we just let the players decide between themselves who wins, or should I roll a die?


Roll a die.
Though I'd like to fight Jonathan. Also, I think for the sake of time, we should all post our fights at once.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Mon May 12, 2014 9:58 pm

Hetland 2 wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:I wanted to ask you guys about that actually. Should everyone post their fight at once, or should we do them one at a time? And should we just let the players decide between themselves who wins, or should I roll a die?


Roll a die.
Though I'd like to fight Jonathan. Also, I think for the sake of time, we should all post our fights at once.

Got it.

Also, if you like, I can change the matches so that you're fighting Jonathan. It really makes no difference to me.
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Postby Hetland 2 » Mon May 12, 2014 9:59 pm

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Hetland 2 wrote:
Roll a die.
Though I'd like to fight Jonathan. Also, I think for the sake of time, we should all post our fights at once.

Got it.

Also, if you like, I can change the matches so that you're fighting Jonathan. It really makes no difference to me.

Isle, is that fine?
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Postby Joshulia » Mon May 12, 2014 10:10 pm

So if we're switching partners that's means Jaeger will be fighting the Artist guy......this is sort of why the die idea doesn't really work in my mind. Seeing as though each student has a different skill level, a die really isn't an accurate tool to see who would win.......I say we just say who we think will win via the OOC, but hey, it's up to you mate.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Mon May 12, 2014 10:18 pm

Joshulia wrote:So if we're switching partners that's means Jaeger will be fighting the Artist guy......this is sort of why the die idea doesn't really work in my mind. Seeing as though each student has a different skill level, a die really isn't an accurate tool to see who would win.......I say we just say who we think will win via the OOC, but hey, it's up to you mate.

Alright, how about this: we talk about the outcomes in the OOC, and if certain people can't come to an agreement, I'll use a die in their case or something.
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Postby Isle of Lithonia » Mon May 12, 2014 10:27 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:I wanted to ask you guys about that actually. Should everyone post their fight at once, or should we do them one at a time? And should we just let the players decide between themselves who wins, or should I roll a die?

Here's my thoughts:
1) You could have a few battles going on at once.
2) The outcomes would be decided beforehand and posted in the IC.
3) Outcomes would be decided through a mix of chance and skills. Firstly, you could give a rough tally of the strengths and weaknesses of each character, then give a rough estimate of who has a greater likelihood of winning the battle and then roll a dice accordingly (clear as mud, right?).

For example, Jack is stronger, faster, and more agile than Jace. However, Jace is smarter, more experienced, and more self-controlled than Jack. Also, Jack is known for his stupidity and instability, and Jace is known for underestimating her opponents. Thus, in my opinion, Jack has 2/6s (or 3/8s, depending on the dice) of a chance of winning, whereas Jace has 4/6s of a chance. So, when you roll the dice, if it lands on 1 or 2, Jack wins. However, if it is 3-6, then Jace wins. Get da picture?
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Nature-Spirits wrote:Got it.

Also, if you like, I can change the matches so that you're fighting Jonathan. It really makes no difference to me.

Isle, is that fine?

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Postby Nature-Spirits » Mon May 12, 2014 10:33 pm

Isle of Lithonia wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:I wanted to ask you guys about that actually. Should everyone post their fight at once, or should we do them one at a time? And should we just let the players decide between themselves who wins, or should I roll a die?

Here's my thoughts:
1) You could have a few battles going on at once.
2) The outcomes would be decided beforehand and posted in the IC.
3) Outcomes would be decided through a mix of chance and skills. Firstly, you could give a rough tally of the strengths and weaknesses of each character, then give a rough estimate of who has a greater likelihood of winning the battle and then roll a dice accordingly (clear as mud, right?).

For example, Jack is stronger, faster, and more agile than Jace. However, Jace is smarter, more experienced, and more self-controlled than Jack. Also, Jack is known for his stupidity and instability, and Jace is known for underestimating her opponents. Thus, in my opinion, Jack has 2/6s (or 3/8s, depending on the dice) of a chance of winning, whereas Jace has 4/6s of a chance. So, when you roll the dice, if it lands on 1 or 2, Jack wins. However, if it is 3-6, then Jace wins. Get da picture?

That sounds good. Complicated, but good.
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Postby Videssos » Tue May 13, 2014 5:28 am

Dice to determine the outcome?
Meh, slightly unrealistic, and there's a reason I've always avoided Dice RPs. I think that logic, common sense, a character's skill set, background and the like should all go into consideration when determining a fight.

For instance, if an intelligent/agile character can use the right tactics, they can beat a strength-oriented character, though if they misstep or get cornered, then they can get beaten. Having been at the academy longer would also play a part- at least with competency and experience, among other things. As would background, like some random student that hung themselves isn't going to be particularly accomplished in combat, probably. As opposed to a character who gets involved in violent crime and/or military things during life. Likewise, personality would affect the way they act and react during combat, to varying degrees. You get the idea.
These things should all be integrated into the equation, even though equations, and by extension, maths, isn't really my favourite thing. Likewise, dice, more so.
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Postby Nachfolgia » Tue May 13, 2014 5:50 am

Videssos wrote:Dice to determine the outcome?
Meh, slightly unrealistic, and there's a reason I've always avoided Dice RPs. I think that logic, common sense, a character's skill set, background and the like should all go into consideration when determining a fight.

For instance, if an intelligent/agile character can use the right tactics, they can beat a strength-oriented character, though if they misstep or get cornered, then they can get beaten. Having been at the academy longer would also play a part- at least with competency and experience, among other things. As would background, like some random student that hung themselves isn't going to be particularly accomplished in combat, probably. As opposed to a character who gets involved in violent crime and/or military things during life. Likewise, personality would affect the way they act and react during combat, to varying degrees. You get the idea.
These things should all be integrated into the equation, even though equations, and by extension, maths, isn't really my favourite thing. Likewise, dice, more so.


I agree, a person's will also plays a huge factor. If a character is determined and the will to fight is greater, the character will put everything he or she has into a fight and is much more willing to take risks to defeat an opponent.

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Postby The Templar High Council » Tue May 13, 2014 6:35 am

Damn, both of you guy's ideas concern my characters. Maiso plans to fight hard for his Prez, and I personally want Saya to end up losing. Then she could spend more time with Hellsing. Whom she still doesn't know the first name of.
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Postby New Strausberg » Tue May 13, 2014 6:37 am

The Templar High Council wrote:Damn, both of you guy's ideas concern my characters. Maiso plans to fight hard for his Prez, and I personally want Saya to end up losing. Then she could spend more time with Hellsing. Whom she still doesn't know the first name of.

Which I find hilarious seeing as its posted on the board :p
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Postby The Templar High Council » Tue May 13, 2014 6:39 am

New Strausberg wrote:
The Templar High Council wrote:Damn, both of you guy's ideas concern my characters. Maiso plans to fight hard for his Prez, and I personally want Saya to end up losing. Then she could spend more time with Hellsing. Whom she still doesn't know the first name of.

Which I find hilarious seeing as its posted on the board :p

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Postby New Strausberg » Tue May 13, 2014 6:39 am

The Templar High Council wrote:
New Strausberg wrote:Which I find hilarious seeing as its posted on the board :p

Well, I guess she knows now...

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Postby The Templar High Council » Tue May 13, 2014 6:41 am

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The Templar High Council wrote:Well, I guess she knows now...

*pat pat* you ok?

I just didn't notice. It's fine now. I'm going to go back to listening to my professor now.
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Postby Isle of Lithonia » Tue May 13, 2014 8:57 am

Videssos wrote:Dice to determine the outcome?
Meh, slightly unrealistic, and there's a reason I've always avoided Dice RPs. I think that logic, common sense, a character's skill set, background and the like should all go into consideration when determining a fight.

For instance, if an intelligent/agile character can use the right tactics, they can beat a strength-oriented character, though if they misstep or get cornered, then they can get beaten. Having been at the academy longer would also play a part- at least with competency and experience, among other things. As would background, like some random student that hung themselves isn't going to be particularly accomplished in combat, probably. As opposed to a character who gets involved in violent crime and/or military things during life. Likewise, personality would affect the way they act and react during combat, to varying degrees. You get the idea.
These things should all be integrated into the equation, even though equations, and by extension, maths, isn't really my favourite thing. Likewise, dice, more so.

In all honesty though, chance is also a determinant in combat. For instance, maybe a sudden burst of wind knocks a jet pilot just slightly off his path, allowing his less brilliant opponent to successfully maneuver into position behind him and gun him down. Although skill, strength, agility, experience, tactics, all go into play in determining a battle, chance also plays a role. Sometimes, even the greatest warriors are defeated by weaker opponents as a result of chance (as I would argue was the case for the Red Baron).
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Postby Videssos » Tue May 13, 2014 9:46 am

Isle of Lithonia wrote:
Videssos wrote:Dice to determine the outcome?
Meh, slightly unrealistic, and there's a reason I've always avoided Dice RPs. I think that logic, common sense, a character's skill set, background and the like should all go into consideration when determining a fight.

For instance, if an intelligent/agile character can use the right tactics, they can beat a strength-oriented character, though if they misstep or get cornered, then they can get beaten. Having been at the academy longer would also play a part- at least with competency and experience, among other things. As would background, like some random student that hung themselves isn't going to be particularly accomplished in combat, probably. As opposed to a character who gets involved in violent crime and/or military things during life. Likewise, personality would affect the way they act and react during combat, to varying degrees. You get the idea.
These things should all be integrated into the equation, even though equations, and by extension, maths, isn't really my favourite thing. Likewise, dice, more so.

In all honesty though, chance is also a determinant in combat. For instance, maybe a sudden burst of wind knocks a jet pilot just slightly off his path, allowing his less brilliant opponent to successfully maneuver into position behind him and gun him down. Although skill, strength, agility, experience, tactics, all go into play in determining a battle, chance also plays a role. Sometimes, even the greatest warriors are defeated by weaker opponents as a result of chance (as I would argue was the case for the Red Baron).


Well, if one RPs thoughtfully and realistically, then chance would be able to work alongside these other factors without necessarily resorting to a small throwable object used for generating random numbers.
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Postby Joshulia » Tue May 13, 2014 12:19 pm

Quick question: Is Jaeger's opponent even still active?
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Postby Hetland 2 » Tue May 13, 2014 12:30 pm

Joshulia wrote:Quick question: Is Jaeger's opponent even still active?


*Frowns* I don't know... I'd like to say yes, but I don't now if they've posted yet.
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Postby Imperial--japan » Tue May 13, 2014 12:32 pm

Joshulia wrote:Quick question: Is Jaeger's opponent even still active?

I suppose you'll win by default.
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Postby Hetland 2 » Tue May 13, 2014 12:48 pm

Let's see... Hotaru's pros:
She's tough and strong
She's feared for being brutal
Her biggest strength however, is her monsterous stamina.

Cons:
While in armor she's very unbalanced and slow.
Her legs are unarmored
Heavily reliant on grapples or charges makes her quite predictable.
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Postby Joshulia » Tue May 13, 2014 12:58 pm

Imperial--japan wrote:
Joshulia wrote:Quick question: Is Jaeger's opponent even still active?

I suppose you'll win by default.

*spongebob victory song*
Hetland 2 wrote:Let's see... Hotaru's pros:
She's tough and strong
She's feared for being brutal
Her biggest strength however, is her monsterous stamina.

Cons:
While in armor she's very unbalanced and slow.
Her legs are unarmored
Heavily reliant on grapples or charges makes her quite predictable.

She has no armor on her legs?
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Postby Isle of Lithonia » Tue May 13, 2014 1:03 pm

Hetland 2 wrote:Let's see... Hotaru's pros:
She's tough and strong
She's feared for being brutal
Her biggest strength however, is her monsterous stamina.

Cons:
While in armor she's very unbalanced and slow.
Her legs are unarmored
Heavily reliant on grapples or charges makes her quite predictable.

Well, I guess I'll have to figure out my own character as well. Damn, I just don't know very much about him yet.

Ok, pros:
He's intelligent, agile, stronger than normal (not a body-builder though), fast, and has good reflexes. Thus, he fights gracefully, taking the time to use proper form.

Cons:
He is not necessarily a brutal, merciless fighter. Rather, he fights according to a Code of chivalry. Therefore, he will not strike an unarmed opponent; if they fall and lose their weapon, he'll let them get back up, grab their weapon, and resume fighting (if it isn't a battle to the death); he will not use underhanded methods to defeat his opponent; and will not do anything to overly hurt a female (unless its to the death, but even then he will hold back to some extent). If he is fighting for his honor (or the honor of a friend or female), the code of chivalry is out the window though.
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Postby Hetland 2 » Tue May 13, 2014 1:07 pm

Joshulia wrote:
Imperial--japan wrote:I suppose you'll win by default.

*spongebob victory song*
Hetland 2 wrote:Let's see... Hotaru's pros:
She's tough and strong
She's feared for being brutal
Her biggest strength however, is her monsterous stamina.

Cons:
While in armor she's very unbalanced and slow.
Her legs are unarmored
Heavily reliant on grapples or charges makes her quite predictable.

She has no armor on her legs?


Her armor only covers her upper body. On the bright side, she's small enough that she can tuck her legs into her armor if she needs to.
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"FIRE IN THE HOE" he bellowed before triggering the explosive.
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Postby Isle of Lithonia » Tue May 13, 2014 1:12 pm

I just got an odd picture of Hotaru tucking up inside her armor. It's rather hilarious, I must admit.
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Postby Hetland 2 » Tue May 13, 2014 1:15 pm

Isle of Lithonia wrote:I just got an odd picture of Hotaru tucking up inside her armor. It's rather hilarious, I must admit.


I had a question. Does wound transferral work the other way? Can he throw wounds he gets onto others.
Don't worry. I'm just a bridge troll that feeds on forum drama.
Harbinger of the RP endtimes.
we will send a air stare on libya if they don't stop their attack
The krang countered the wave with something. And continued to try and take over the decepticon seeker.
Everybody! Can you stop saying that the cargo ship sinking we have done lately was a war crime. We were trying to economically destroy the UK.
Mair glows brightly and transforms in a human, wearing a white cloak, "leave us"
"FIRE IN THE HOE" he bellowed before triggering the explosive.
Julius Ceasar was a normal 14 year old who played Elder Tale in Russia.
We have already established, more powerful beings are not a proper weakness.

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