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Postby Mormak » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:47 pm

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Hey! Nice job taking that page outta my book.


._. You posted this?

*Didn't notice it*

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Postby Socialist Czechia » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:48 pm

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How is Dorne 7th? The North was ravaged, Winterfell would take centuries to return, and frankly Wildlings would be dying too. The North would definitely be in the bottom 3. The Riverlands would repopulate, but their infrastructure remains poor, and the various castles of bannermen were torn apart during the war.

The Stormlands were hit hard aswell, with Aegon's landing and destruction of various strongholds, they would have fewer veterans and industry would still be lagging. The Westernlands were under siege for quite some time, and dragons ravaged the lands aswell. The Reach is nearing civil war, and the Vale has never been much of a power, with the Arryns gone, less so.

Dorne is a major economic zone for trade between Essos and Westeros, it has the best wine (Dornish Red > Arbour Gold any day) and the greatest culture. Also the Dornish armies would've been barely reduced by the war and there would be mass migration into Dorne during the invasion from the Others, everyone wants to go south.

No one wants to go to sandy desert of shit, they all went to the Stormlands and Reach. And someone explained that almost nothing was damaged by the Others' sting attack. Here:
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It was already explained that the Other Invasion did not see them occupy and exterminate, instead they rushed south and hoped to defeat the armies opposed to them before exterminating. So we didn't lose that much life, the most damage was material and that can always be replaced, especially 60 years down the line...


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"Those who reached my boundary, their seed is not; their hearts and their souls are finished forever and ever. As for those who had assembled before them on the sea, the full flame was their front before the harbour mouths, and a wall of metal upon the shore surrounded them. They were dragged, overturned, and laid low upon the beach; slain and made heaps from stern to bow of their galleys, while all their things were cast upon the water." - Ramesses III., Battle of the Delta

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Postby Rephesus » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:49 pm

Keznov wrote:Guys, can we please not fight? :(


It was a discussion :P

Zentrut wrote:Alright, now I understand why my argument is impossible. You're a Dorne fanboy. I'll stop trying to make points, then.

Hardly. I'm RPing a Dornish house, so I've obviously looked into Dorne's position in this RP. I'd do the same for the Stormlands if I was Baratheon, or the Reach if I were Hightower, etc.

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Postby Zentrut » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:49 pm

Rephesus wrote:
Keznov wrote:Guys, can we please not fight? :(


It was a discussion :P

Zentrut wrote:Alright, now I understand why my argument is impossible. You're a Dorne fanboy. I'll stop trying to make points, then.

Hardly. I'm RPing a Dornish house, so I've obviously looked into Dorne's position in this RP. I'd do the same for the Stormlands if I was Baratheon, or the Reach if I were Hightower, etc.

I saw some of your posts in the general discussion.
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Postby Jade Confederacy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:50 pm

Valentir wrote:So is House Hightower going to go against the Tyrells then?

Depends. I dont even know the sides yet, so im not going to declare house Hightower for anyone until all the actors have entered the stage.

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Postby Keznov » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:50 pm

Mormak wrote:
Keznov wrote:Guys, can we please not fight? :(


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And who are you, the proud lord said,
that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall,
with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
and not a soul to hear.

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Postby Rephesus » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:51 pm

Zentrut wrote:I saw some of your posts in the general discussion.


And? That was after I decided to read into the Dornish, they happen to have a very good standing in GoT and are easily one of the most interesting places.

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Postby Valentir » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:52 pm

Who RP the Martells again?

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Postby Mormak » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:52 pm

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Does the wolf wish to clash against Lion again?

I have to say, if i hear any nonsense about "Kings in the North" I will push for the Trident :P

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Postby Zentrut » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:53 pm

Rephesus wrote:
Zentrut wrote:I saw some of your posts in the general discussion.


And? That was after I decided to read into the Dornish, they happen to have a very good standing in GoT and are easily one of the most interesting places.

So you read some facts and got fanboyism, it's ok they probably have places for that.

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Postby Rephesus » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:54 pm

Zentrut wrote:
Rephesus wrote:
And? That was after I decided to read into the Dornish, they happen to have a very good standing in GoT and are easily one of the most interesting places.

So you read some facts and got fanboyism, it's ok they probably have places for that.


I definitely do think I like Dorne quite a bit, it's one of my favourite areas, but I prefer the Free Cities, Slaver's Bay, Asshai, Dothraki and The Lands beyond the Wall.

I don't consider myself a 'Fanboy', that takes it too far.
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Postby Keznov » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:56 pm

Oh yes, forgot to mention that Rickon Stark is married to the Lord of the Reach's great-aunt(at least I think she is, but she is definitely a Tyrell nonetheless).
And who are you, the proud lord said,
that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall,
with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
and not a soul to hear.

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Postby Zentrut » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:57 pm

Rephesus wrote:
Zentrut wrote:So you read some facts and got fanboyism, it's ok they probably have places for that.


I definitely do think I like Dorne quite a bit, it's one of my favourite areas, but I prefer the Free Cities, Slaver's Bay, Asshai, Dothraki and The Lands beyond the Wall.

Really? Never really hear about people liking the Bay. Also, why does everyone love Dothraki? They're uncultured, uncivilized, have no settlements, can't form houses, never hold land, and pay tribute to a bunch of widows on a mountain. All they're useful for is Lhazareen slavery, which the Ghiscari could do on their own, and the Lhazareen are probably weak as far as slaves go.

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Postby Zentrut » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:58 pm

Keznov wrote:Oh yes, forgot to mention that Rickon Stark is married to the Lord of the Reach's great-aunt(at least I think she is, but she is definitely a Tyrell nonetheless).

Speaking of which, my aunt is married to some Hardying-Stark.

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Postby Imperium Nova » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:59 pm

Zentrut wrote:
Rephesus wrote:
I definitely do think I like Dorne quite a bit, it's one of my favourite areas, but I prefer the Free Cities, Slaver's Bay, Asshai, Dothraki and The Lands beyond the Wall.

Really? Never really hear about people liking the Bay. Also, why does everyone love Dothraki? They're uncultured, uncivilized, have no settlements, can't form houses, never hold land, and pay tribute to a bunch of widows on a mountain. All they're useful for is Lhazareen slavery, which the Ghiscari could do on their own, and the Lhazareen are probably weak as far as slaves go.

The Dorthraki are Game of Thrones Mongols, and everyone loves the Mongols.

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Postby Keznov » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:00 pm

Behold the Glory of Qarth!

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And who are you, the proud lord said,
that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall,
with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
and not a soul to hear.

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Postby Zentrut » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:01 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Zentrut wrote:Really? Never really hear about people liking the Bay. Also, why does everyone love Dothraki? They're uncultured, uncivilized, have no settlements, can't form houses, never hold land, and pay tribute to a bunch of widows on a mountain. All they're useful for is Lhazareen slavery, which the Ghiscari could do on their own, and the Lhazareen are probably weak as far as slaves go.

The Dorthraki are Game of Thrones Mongols, and everyone loves the Mongols.

Except the Chinese, Japanese, Russians, Persians, Byzantines, Europeans, Indians, Arabs, the Turks however, would like them.

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Postby Mormak » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:02 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Zentrut wrote:Really? Never really hear about people liking the Bay. Also, why does everyone love Dothraki? They're uncultured, uncivilized, have no settlements, can't form houses, never hold land, and pay tribute to a bunch of widows on a mountain. All they're useful for is Lhazareen slavery, which the Ghiscari could do on their own, and the Lhazareen are probably weak as far as slaves go.

The Dorthraki are Game of Thrones Mongols, and everyone loves the Mongols.


I don't care for them in GOT or reality.

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Postby Rephesus » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:02 pm

Zentrut wrote:
Rephesus wrote:
I definitely do think I like Dorne quite a bit, it's one of my favourite areas, but I prefer the Free Cities, Slaver's Bay, Asshai, Dothraki and The Lands beyond the Wall.

Really? Never really hear about people liking the Bay. Also, why does everyone love Dothraki? They're uncultured, uncivilized, have no settlements, can't form houses, never hold land, and pay tribute to a bunch of widows on a mountain. All they're useful for is Lhazareen slavery, which the Ghiscari could do on their own, and the Lhazareen are probably weak as far as slaves go.


I didn't say I like them as in terms of support, but I find them to be interesting :P

The Slaver's Bay is like the melting pot of the world, with slaves from different areas being under the same collective oligarchy. The Dothraki are badass nomads.

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Postby Jade Confederacy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:18 pm

Logistica Suprema wrote:Untested? Garlan Tyrell has reigned de facto for four years, and proved repeatedly the capacity of his judgment. Young? I do not believe the realm cared of age when Daeron the Young Dragon took the throne, nor when Robb the Young Wolf donned his bronze crown, nor when Daenerys the Unburnt hatched three dragons on the Dothraki Sea and all the world gasp in horror and awe. The only blood I mean to see in the water is Blackfyre.

A united Reach, a united Realm.

Daeron and Daenerys had dragons while Robb had a set network of alliances that spanned half of Westeros. People respect age almost as much as they respect achievements. If the Tyrells, beat back the Dornish and win the war, then everyone would shut up and toe the line. But from the viewpoint of everyone who dosnt know Garlan personally, he looks like a young boy unsure of himself and asking to be taken advantage of.
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Postby Rephesus » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:20 pm

Jade Confederacy wrote:
Logistica Suprema wrote:Untested? Garlan Tyrell has reigned de facto for four years, and proved repeatedly the capacity of his judgment. Young? I do not believe the realm cared of age when Daeron the Young Dragon took the throne, nor when Robb the Young Wolf donned his bronze crown, nor when Daenerys the Unburnt hatched three dragons on the Dothraki Sea and all the world gasp in horror and awe. The only blood I mean to see in the water is Blackfyre.

A united Reach, a united Realm.

Daeron and Daenerys had dragons while Robb had a set network of alliances that spanned half of Westeros. People respect age almost as much as they respect achievements. If the Tyrells, beat back the Dornish and win the war, then everyone would shut up and toe the line. But from the viewpoint of everyone who dosnt know Garlan personally, he looks like a young boy unsure of himself and asking to be taken advantage of.

How is it that nearly every Tyrell character is under the age of 25? I don't see why there wouldn't be some sort of regency to aid in tilling high garden. Maybe a trusted uncle or castellan or something.

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Postby Zentrut » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:26 pm

Jade Confederacy wrote:
Logistica Suprema wrote:Untested? Garlan Tyrell has reigned de facto for four years, and proved repeatedly the capacity of his judgment. Young? I do not believe the realm cared of age when Daeron the Young Dragon took the throne, nor when Robb the Young Wolf donned his bronze crown, nor when Daenerys the Unburnt hatched three dragons on the Dothraki Sea and all the world gasp in horror and awe. The only blood I mean to see in the water is Blackfyre.

A united Reach, a united Realm.

Daeron and Daenerys had dragons while Robb had a set network of alliances that spanned half of Westeros. People respect age almost as much as they respect achievements. If the Tyrells, beat back the Dornish and win the war, then everyone would shut up and toe the line. But from the viewpoint of everyone who dosnt know Garlan personally, he looks like a young boy unsure of himself and asking to be taken advantage of.

Neither of the King Daerons had dragons.

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Postby Jade Confederacy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:31 pm

Zentrut wrote:Neither of the King Daerons had dragons.

Huh, thought he was an earlier targ. Still, my point is is proven. Daerons's youth resulted in his authority being challenged and the start of a civil war. oops, different Daeron
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Postby Logistica Suprema » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:32 pm

Jade Confederacy wrote:
Logistica Suprema wrote:Untested? Garlan Tyrell has reigned de facto for four years, and proved repeatedly the capacity of his judgment. Young? I do not believe the realm cared of age when Daeron the Young Dragon took the throne, nor when Robb the Young Wolf donned his bronze crown, nor when Daenerys the Unburnt hatched three dragons on the Dothraki Sea and all the world gasp in horror and awe. The only blood I mean to see in the water is Blackfyre.

A united Reach, a united Realm.

Daeron and Daenerys had dragons while Robb had a set network of alliances that spanned half of Westeros. People respect age almost as much as they respect achievements. If the Tyrells, beat back the Dornish and win the war, then everyone would shut up and toe the line. But from the viewpoint of everyone who dosnt know Garlan personally, he looks like a young boy unsure of himself and asking to be taken advantage of.


Garlan has a network spies spanning all of Westeros. And why would he want war with the Dornish? A war in the northern Reach, and a war in the southern Reach. The Reach would bleed. Why allow that? I assumed we were of the agreement that we wanted the Reach to prosper.
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Postby Logistica Suprema » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:33 pm

Jade Confederacy wrote:
Zentrut wrote:Neither of the King Daerons had dragons.

Huh, thought he was an earlier targ. Still, my point is is proven. Daerons's youth resulted in his authority being challenged and the start of a civil war.


Daeron the Young Dragon conquered Dorne, for however briefly . . .
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Anyway, some RPs:

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