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by Socialist Czechia » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:48 pm
Zentrut wrote:Rephesus wrote:
How is Dorne 7th? The North was ravaged, Winterfell would take centuries to return, and frankly Wildlings would be dying too. The North would definitely be in the bottom 3. The Riverlands would repopulate, but their infrastructure remains poor, and the various castles of bannermen were torn apart during the war.
The Stormlands were hit hard aswell, with Aegon's landing and destruction of various strongholds, they would have fewer veterans and industry would still be lagging. The Westernlands were under siege for quite some time, and dragons ravaged the lands aswell. The Reach is nearing civil war, and the Vale has never been much of a power, with the Arryns gone, less so.
Dorne is a major economic zone for trade between Essos and Westeros, it has the best wine (Dornish Red > Arbour Gold any day) and the greatest culture. Also the Dornish armies would've been barely reduced by the war and there would be mass migration into Dorne during the invasion from the Others, everyone wants to go south.
No one wants to go to sandy desert of shit, they all went to the Stormlands and Reach. And someone explained that almost nothing was damaged by the Others' sting attack. Here:Keznov wrote:
It was already explained that the Other Invasion did not see them occupy and exterminate, instead they rushed south and hoped to defeat the armies opposed to them before exterminating. So we didn't lose that much life, the most damage was material and that can always be replaced, especially 60 years down the line...

"Those who reached my boundary, their seed is not; their hearts and their souls are finished forever and ever. As for those who had assembled before them on the sea, the full flame was their front before the harbour mouths, and a wall of metal upon the shore surrounded them. They were dragged, overturned, and laid low upon the beach; slain and made heaps from stern to bow of their galleys, while all their things were cast upon the water." - Ramesses III., Battle of the Delta

by Rephesus » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:49 pm
Keznov wrote:Guys, can we please not fight?
Zentrut wrote:Alright, now I understand why my argument is impossible. You're a Dorne fanboy. I'll stop trying to make points, then.

by Zentrut » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:49 pm
Rephesus wrote:Keznov wrote:Guys, can we please not fight?
It was a discussion
Zentrut wrote:Alright, now I understand why my argument is impossible. You're a Dorne fanboy. I'll stop trying to make points, then.
Hardly. I'm RPing a Dornish house, so I've obviously looked into Dorne's position in this RP. I'd do the same for the Stormlands if I was Baratheon, or the Reach if I were Hightower, etc.

by Jade Confederacy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:50 pm
Valentir wrote:So is House Hightower going to go against the Tyrells then?

by Keznov » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:50 pm

by Rephesus » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:51 pm
Zentrut wrote:I saw some of your posts in the general discussion.

by Rephesus » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:54 pm

by Keznov » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:56 pm

by Zentrut » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:57 pm

by Zentrut » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:58 pm
Keznov wrote:Oh yes, forgot to mention that Rickon Stark is married to the Lord of the Reach's great-aunt(at least I think she is, but she is definitely a Tyrell nonetheless).

by Imperium Nova » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:59 pm
Zentrut wrote:Rephesus wrote:
I definitely do think I like Dorne quite a bit, it's one of my favourite areas, but I prefer the Free Cities, Slaver's Bay, Asshai, Dothraki and The Lands beyond the Wall.
Really? Never really hear about people liking the Bay. Also, why does everyone love Dothraki? They're uncultured, uncivilized, have no settlements, can't form houses, never hold land, and pay tribute to a bunch of widows on a mountain. All they're useful for is Lhazareen slavery, which the Ghiscari could do on their own, and the Lhazareen are probably weak as far as slaves go.

by Keznov » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:00 pm

by Zentrut » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:01 pm
Imperium Nova wrote:Zentrut wrote:Really? Never really hear about people liking the Bay. Also, why does everyone love Dothraki? They're uncultured, uncivilized, have no settlements, can't form houses, never hold land, and pay tribute to a bunch of widows on a mountain. All they're useful for is Lhazareen slavery, which the Ghiscari could do on their own, and the Lhazareen are probably weak as far as slaves go.
The Dorthraki are Game of Thrones Mongols, and everyone loves the Mongols.

by Mormak » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:02 pm
Imperium Nova wrote:Zentrut wrote:Really? Never really hear about people liking the Bay. Also, why does everyone love Dothraki? They're uncultured, uncivilized, have no settlements, can't form houses, never hold land, and pay tribute to a bunch of widows on a mountain. All they're useful for is Lhazareen slavery, which the Ghiscari could do on their own, and the Lhazareen are probably weak as far as slaves go.
The Dorthraki are Game of Thrones Mongols, and everyone loves the Mongols.

by Rephesus » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:02 pm
Zentrut wrote:Rephesus wrote:
I definitely do think I like Dorne quite a bit, it's one of my favourite areas, but I prefer the Free Cities, Slaver's Bay, Asshai, Dothraki and The Lands beyond the Wall.
Really? Never really hear about people liking the Bay. Also, why does everyone love Dothraki? They're uncultured, uncivilized, have no settlements, can't form houses, never hold land, and pay tribute to a bunch of widows on a mountain. All they're useful for is Lhazareen slavery, which the Ghiscari could do on their own, and the Lhazareen are probably weak as far as slaves go.

by Jade Confederacy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:18 pm
Logistica Suprema wrote:Untested? Garlan Tyrell has reigned de facto for four years, and proved repeatedly the capacity of his judgment. Young? I do not believe the realm cared of age when Daeron the Young Dragon took the throne, nor when Robb the Young Wolf donned his bronze crown, nor when Daenerys the Unburnt hatched three dragons on the Dothraki Sea and all the world gasp in horror and awe. The only blood I mean to see in the water is Blackfyre.
A united Reach, a united Realm.

by Rephesus » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:20 pm
Jade Confederacy wrote:Logistica Suprema wrote:Untested? Garlan Tyrell has reigned de facto for four years, and proved repeatedly the capacity of his judgment. Young? I do not believe the realm cared of age when Daeron the Young Dragon took the throne, nor when Robb the Young Wolf donned his bronze crown, nor when Daenerys the Unburnt hatched three dragons on the Dothraki Sea and all the world gasp in horror and awe. The only blood I mean to see in the water is Blackfyre.
A united Reach, a united Realm.
Daeron and Daenerys had dragons while Robb had a set network of alliances that spanned half of Westeros. People respect age almost as much as they respect achievements. If the Tyrells, beat back the Dornish and win the war, then everyone would shut up and toe the line. But from the viewpoint of everyone who dosnt know Garlan personally, he looks like a young boy unsure of himself and asking to be taken advantage of.

by Zentrut » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:26 pm
Jade Confederacy wrote:Logistica Suprema wrote:Untested? Garlan Tyrell has reigned de facto for four years, and proved repeatedly the capacity of his judgment. Young? I do not believe the realm cared of age when Daeron the Young Dragon took the throne, nor when Robb the Young Wolf donned his bronze crown, nor when Daenerys the Unburnt hatched three dragons on the Dothraki Sea and all the world gasp in horror and awe. The only blood I mean to see in the water is Blackfyre.
A united Reach, a united Realm.
Daeron and Daenerys had dragons while Robb had a set network of alliances that spanned half of Westeros. People respect age almost as much as they respect achievements. If the Tyrells, beat back the Dornish and win the war, then everyone would shut up and toe the line. But from the viewpoint of everyone who dosnt know Garlan personally, he looks like a young boy unsure of himself and asking to be taken advantage of.

by Jade Confederacy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:31 pm
Zentrut wrote:Neither of the King Daerons had dragons.

by Logistica Suprema » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:32 pm
Jade Confederacy wrote:Logistica Suprema wrote:Untested? Garlan Tyrell has reigned de facto for four years, and proved repeatedly the capacity of his judgment. Young? I do not believe the realm cared of age when Daeron the Young Dragon took the throne, nor when Robb the Young Wolf donned his bronze crown, nor when Daenerys the Unburnt hatched three dragons on the Dothraki Sea and all the world gasp in horror and awe. The only blood I mean to see in the water is Blackfyre.
A united Reach, a united Realm.
Daeron and Daenerys had dragons while Robb had a set network of alliances that spanned half of Westeros. People respect age almost as much as they respect achievements. If the Tyrells, beat back the Dornish and win the war, then everyone would shut up and toe the line. But from the viewpoint of everyone who dosnt know Garlan personally, he looks like a young boy unsure of himself and asking to be taken advantage of.

by Logistica Suprema » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:33 pm
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