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Postby Mormak » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:54 am

Imperium Nova wrote:
Arlye Austros wrote:Have tried to fix the raven issue over Greaywater watch by arguing that since the Second Night the bogs and swamps seem to be colder, tend to freeze more and thus the keep moves less, so from time to time, a Raven does arrive to GWW. However, Gonna be a while till I get such messages, unless a rider takes it from Moat Cailin.

Well the distance to Dorne/Stepstones and back should be the same distance as to the North, roughly. So I'd say you be getting them quite soon.


Like i said within the same week for raven, maybe two or so for rider.

Relatively soon.

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Postby Imperium Nova » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:55 am

Mormak wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:Well the distance to Dorne/Stepstones and back should be the same distance as to the North, roughly. So I'd say you be getting them quite soon.


Like i said within the same week for raven, maybe two or so for rider.

Relatively soon.

I am not sure what the point is for riders, they rarely use them in the books/show and they would just take longer time. Though it might be more secure and they could carry a larger message.

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Postby Mormak » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:57 am

Imperium Nova wrote:
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Like i said within the same week for raven, maybe two or so for rider.

Relatively soon.

I am not sure what the point is for riders, they rarely use them in the books/show and they would just take longer time. Though it might be more secure and they could carry a larger message.


The point of Riders, Well outriders is because they are not so easily intercepted either by man or beast.

Ravens are set upon by much in the world, least of all men.

Also they can travel where birds could not, they also can just follow a roadway instead of losing their way, getting lost and the message never arriving.

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Postby Arlye Austros » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:59 am

think the communication on GWW would mainly rely on riders travelling from Greywater to Moat Cailin and back. Ravens would need to deliver the message to MC to get Lord Howland awaro of whats going on....
Green Dreams could also be of use right now :P
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Postby Mormak » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:05 am

Arlye Austros wrote:think the communication on GWW would mainly rely on riders travelling from Greywater to Moat Cailin and back. Ravens would need to deliver the message to MC to get Lord Howland awaro of whats going on....
Green Dreams could also be of use right now :P


Have the frogeaters actually acquired horses finally? :o

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Postby Arlye Austros » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:08 am

Mormak wrote:
Arlye Austros wrote:think the communication on GWW would mainly rely on riders travelling from Greywater to Moat Cailin and back. Ravens would need to deliver the message to MC to get Lord Howland awaro of whats going on....
Green Dreams could also be of use right now :P


Have the frogeaters actually acquired horses finally? :o

I would assume they have some shitty horses acquired in the Barrowlands or the Riverlands, and ridden by outsiders hired as messengers.
If not, then Giant Frogs. :clap:
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Postby Mormak » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:09 am

Arlye Austros wrote:
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Have the frogeaters actually acquired horses finally? :o

I would assume they have some shitty horses acquired in the Barrowlands or the Riverlands, and ridden by outsiders hired as messengers.
If not, then Giant Frogs. :clap:


So are you going to post? Is that this Q&A was about?

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Postby Arlye Austros » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:10 am

Don´t have much to post about really, have just developed Howland, Meera´s old age and something about Bran "Lord Bookworm".
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:13 am

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totally no worries there, man.


Indeed? Would you amiable to correspondence from Casterly?


Not a chance. Gedeon won't negotiate with incestous degenerates fighting by lies and poison, especially now, when Ironborn are stronger than ever, every island it's own fortress with reasonable population.

Just come if you dare. If Lion will try to fight Kraken in his own realm, he'll be drowned and torn apart by both his mighty beak and many tentacles.
"Those who reached my boundary, their seed is not; their hearts and their souls are finished forever and ever. As for those who had assembled before them on the sea, the full flame was their front before the harbour mouths, and a wall of metal upon the shore surrounded them. They were dragged, overturned, and laid low upon the beach; slain and made heaps from stern to bow of their galleys, while all their things were cast upon the water." - Ramesses III., Battle of the Delta

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Postby Mormak » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:22 am

Socialist Czechia wrote:
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Indeed? Would you amiable to correspondence from Casterly?


Not a chance. Gedeon won't negotiate with incestous degenerates fighting by lies and poison, especially now, when Ironborn are stronger than ever, every island it's own fortress with reasonable population.

Just come if you dare. If Lion will try to fight Kraken in his own realm, he'll be drowned and torn apart by both his mighty beak and many tentacles.


Truly? Balon had no qualm about seeking alliance with the Lannister's Casterly rock, Especially when the title of king was dangled. Not just granted, but acknowledged, Admittedly the situation is different, the Isles are Independent now but that can change.

Indeed? How long would the Isles survive Lannister Siege? Their Mines are filled with tin and iron that can only be dug from deep beneath the earth, their soil exhausted and sparse. There is a surefire method of victory, Merely having forces capable of keeping them from the resources to sustain life would win that battle. Longships will be crushed beneath the Lannister fleet, Twenty will scatter a hundred once again.

How Long would Pyke survive siege with no support? Four Months? A Year? It doesn't matter overly. Casterly will endure and it will stand the test of time, and it will see the fall of Greyjoy. Its a pity that Alliance is immediately out of the question based upon the merits of blood, which to me is laughable considering the blood of Balon is hardly worthy of fame, he sat upon a mountain of failure, Tommen sat upon a throne.

But as i said before, writ would be preferable to blood if that could occur.

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Postby Givious » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:43 am

Zentrut wrote:
Rephesus wrote:The peace was frail, the coffers were bleeding, the wall was practically unmanned, the Lannisters controlled the throne with their money and influence. And this was after things were stable. Right now the politics are a mess and a Baratheon king would ruin everything. No, we need a true ruler on the iron throne.

Now we have the Tully"s for that, Jeyne is too thrifty and Orys too sensible to make the coffers bleed. With a Baratheon King who actually loves his wife and listens to people, this realm could stay strong. Growing Strong that is (Tyrell connection? You'll never know muahaha.)
Imperium Nova wrote:A true ruler, of the blood of Old Valyria and descendant from Aegon the Conqueror.

Like a Baratheon?


Baratheon Blood is too deluded to be Blood of Valyria... They don't even look the part
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Postby Keznov » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:45 am

Well, things are certainly starting to build up, let us hope that a possible solution can be reached soon.

Also, then, Givious, Ser Loran Crassius is only a member of the Queensguard isn't he?
And who are you, the proud lord said,
that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall,
with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
and not a soul to hear.

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Postby Socialist Czechia » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:46 am

Mormak wrote:Truly? Balon had no qualm about seeking alliance with the Lannister's Casterly rock, Especially when the title of king was dangled. Not just granted, but acknowledged, Admittedly the situation is different, the Isles are Independent now but that can change.

Indeed? How long would the Isles survive Lannister Siege? Their Mines are filled with tin and iron that can only be dug from deep beneath the earth, their soil exhausted and sparse. There is a surefire method of victory, Merely having forces capable of keeping them from the resources to sustain life would win that battle. Longships will be crushed beneath the Lannister fleet, Twenty will scatter a hundred once again.

How Long would Pyke survive siege with no support? Four Months? A Year? It doesn't matter overly. Casterly will endure and it will stand the test of time, and it will see the fall of Greyjoy. Its a pity that Alliance is immediately out of the question based upon the merits of blood, which to me is laughable considering the blood of Balon is hardly worthy of fame, he sat upon a mountain of failure, Tommen sat upon a throne.

But as i said before, writ would be preferable to blood if that could occur.


Balon also had no qualm to burn whole Lannister fleet at one day.

Years. And before you can try it, there is still Grand Iron Fleet. Sunset Sea is still under Ironborn control, and they learned much from previous conflicts. No simple raiders anymore, but cruel disciplined warriors with no fear, fanatically devoted to Drowned God like Victarion.

But Ironborn are also patient, so we'll just wait when Lannisters will be weak and soft again. Then we will simply take everything what is ours.

btw. you can't fight Ironborn in same way like greenlanders. lessons and cold cruelty doesn't works there. If you want to stop them, you must kill them all. Not just house, but all it's people. Every single island, every single castle full of people devoted to bloodshed and mayhem.
Andals couldn't subdue them, as well as Targaryens and Baratheons. No matter if there still be House Greyjoy, Ironborn will always return, only stronger.

What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.
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Postby Givious » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:47 am

Keznov wrote:Well, things are certainly starting to build up, let us hope that a possible solution can be reached soon.

Also, then, Givious, Ser Loran Crassius is only a member of the Queensguard isn't he?


He is a member of the Queensguard... which seems to be falling apart lol
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Postby Imperium Nova » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:48 am

The Crassius post was most, intriguing. I assume that is a dragon egg which they have in their possession? Also a lot of secret letters and messages, who were the other two who had read that message? I assume Daenarys, but the second one?

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Postby Lunas Legion » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:50 am

Imperium Nova wrote:The Crassius post was most, intriguing. I assume that is a dragon egg which they have in their possession? Also a lot of secret letters and messages, who were the other two who had read that message? I assume Daenarys, but the second one?


Probably Aegon. If its to do with Targs, then both would've had one.
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Postby Givious » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:56 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:The Crassius post was most, intriguing. I assume that is a dragon egg which they have in their possession? Also a lot of secret letters and messages, who were the other two who had read that message? I assume Daenarys, but the second one?


Probably Aegon. If its to do with Targs, then both would've had one.


The "egg" being real or not is up to you... leaving that ambiguous. As for the secret messages, it should make you think how Thygar received so much from Dany in such a short time period... and crap it should be 4 people knowing the contents of the scroll *hurries back to edit post*
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“Patience is power.
Patience is not an absence of action;
rather it is "timing"
it waits on the right time to act,
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Postby Lunas Legion » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:59 am

Givious wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Probably Aegon. If its to do with Targs, then both would've had one.


The "egg" being real or not is up to you... leaving that ambiguous. As for the secret messages, it should make you think how Thygar received so much from Dany in such a short time period... and crap it should be 4 people knowing the contents of the scroll *hurries back to edit post*


That means it probably isn't Aegon.
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Postby Keznov » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:02 am

I may be biased but I still think a Stark regency is best :p House Stark has always had good relations with House Baratheon and only sixty years ago it also stood together with House Tully in the War of the Five Kings. Also, there is the nice settling fact that the Vale is ruled by people related to House Stark by blood. We have connections :3
And who are you, the proud lord said,
that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall,
with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
and not a soul to hear.

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Postby Imperium Nova » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:03 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Givious wrote:
The "egg" being real or not is up to you... leaving that ambiguous. As for the secret messages, it should make you think how Thygar received so much from Dany in such a short time period... and crap it should be 4 people knowing the contents of the scroll *hurries back to edit post*


That means it probably isn't Aegon.

Weren't there a lot of dragon eggs in Dragonstone? Stannis trying to hatch dragons and all that stuff. Also, since it is 4 people Aegon could be one of those 3 that are not Daenarys.

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Postby Imperium Nova » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:03 am

Keznov wrote:I may be biased but I still think a Stark regency is best :p House Stark has always had good relations with House Baratheon and only sixty years ago it also stood together with House Tully in the War of the Five Kings. Also, there is the nice settling fact that the Vale is ruled by people related to House Stark by blood. We have connections :3

I may be biased but I still think the Blackfyre rule of Westeros is best :p

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Postby Lunas Legion » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:04 am

Imperium Nova wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
That means it probably isn't Aegon.

Weren't there a lot of dragon eggs in Dragonstone? Stannis trying to hatch dragons and all that stuff. Also, since it is 4 people Aegon could be one of those 3 that are not Daenarys.


I meant the third person.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:05 am

Keznov wrote:I may be biased but I still think a Stark regency is best :p House Stark has always had good relations with House Baratheon and only sixty years ago it also stood together with House Tully in the War of the Five Kings. Also, there is the nice settling fact that the Vale is ruled by people related to House Stark by blood. We have connections :3


But then the High Septon would shout 'heathens do not sit the Iron Throne' or some such, and that is never good.
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Postby Givious » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:06 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Givious wrote:
The "egg" being real or not is up to you... leaving that ambiguous. As for the secret messages, it should make you think how Thygar received so much from Dany in such a short time period... and crap it should be 4 people knowing the contents of the scroll *hurries back to edit post*


That means it probably isn't Aegon.


The four people would of been Aegon, Dany, Thygar, and Thygar's sister Velary. She would of been a lady in waiting in the Stormlands around the time of Aegon's landing in the rainhouse. She died shortly into the Long Night, from unknown reasons.
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Patience is not an absence of action;
rather it is "timing"
it waits on the right time to act,
for the right principles
and in the right way.”

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Postby Keznov » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:07 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Keznov wrote:I may be biased but I still think a Stark regency is best :p House Stark has always had good relations with House Baratheon and only sixty years ago it also stood together with House Tully in the War of the Five Kings. Also, there is the nice settling fact that the Vale is ruled by people related to House Stark by blood. We have connections :3


But then the High Septon would shout 'heathens do not sit the Iron Throne' or some such, and that is never good.


He may just but i've never really made attempts to forcibly convert anyone and there is the fact that the Hand can sit on the Iron Throne and that during the ten years Rickon has been Hand I am sure the Queen has been sick a few times and he has stood in to act on her behalf a few times :p
And who are you, the proud lord said,
that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall,
with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
and not a soul to hear.

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