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Bering
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Postby Bering » Thu May 01, 2014 7:44 pm

Whiteshore wrote:
Bering wrote:White, can I be switched to a coastal province

Yes,and what do you think of my Cavalry-based empire?

I will help you a lot in the early stages until we can get a decent infrastructure going

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Whiteshore
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Postby Whiteshore » Thu May 01, 2014 7:45 pm

Bering wrote:
Whiteshore wrote:Yes,and what do you think of my Cavalry-based empire?

I will help you a lot in the early stages until we can get a decent infrastructure going

And can you create an analysis of what my military's organization,equippment,and tactics would probably look like?
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Postby Bering » Thu May 01, 2014 7:47 pm

Whiteshore wrote:
Bering wrote:I will help you a lot in the early stages until we can get a decent infrastructure going

And can you create an analysis of what my military's organization,equippment,and tactics would probably look like?

...maybe...
how detailed does it need to be?

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Postby Whiteshore » Thu May 01, 2014 7:48 pm

Bering wrote:
Whiteshore wrote:And can you create an analysis of what my military's organization,equippment,and tactics would probably look like?

...maybe...
how detailed does it need to be?

1 paragraph for each.
My Political Compass
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My favorite singers are Psy,Carly Rae Jepsen,and Katy Perry

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Postby Bering » Thu May 01, 2014 7:51 pm

Whiteshore wrote:
Bering wrote:...maybe...
how detailed does it need to be?

1 paragraph for each.

Define a paragraph in sentence length and define a sentence in word length :p
and you will primarily be Cavalry right?

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Postby Whiteshore » Thu May 01, 2014 7:51 pm

Bering wrote:
Whiteshore wrote:1 paragraph for each.

Define a paragraph in sentence length and define a sentence in word length :p
and you will primarily be Cavalry right?

Yes,I'm cavalry-focused.
My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49

My favorite singers are Psy,Carly Rae Jepsen,and Katy Perry

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Postby Bering » Thu May 01, 2014 7:53 pm

Whiteshore wrote:
Bering wrote:Define a paragraph in sentence length and define a sentence in word length :p
and you will primarily be Cavalry right?

Yes,I'm cavalry-focused.

okay give me some time, I am doing some other stiff right now, but once I get that done I will give you general stuff on each

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Postby Whiteshore » Thu May 01, 2014 7:55 pm

My heavy cavalry are based on the Byzantine Cataphracts while my light cavalry are based on the Polish Flying Hussars but they also use Semi-Automatic Pistols and carbines as well.
My Political Compass
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49

My favorite singers are Psy,Carly Rae Jepsen,and Katy Perry

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Postby Bering » Thu May 01, 2014 7:56 pm

Whiteshore wrote:My heavy cavalry are based on the Byzantine Cataphracts while my light cavalry are based on the Polish Flying Hussars but they also use Semi-Automatic Pistols and carbines as well.

okay good to know, what do your heavy cab use?

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Postby Whiteshore » Thu May 01, 2014 7:59 pm

Bering wrote:
Whiteshore wrote:My heavy cavalry are based on the Byzantine Cataphracts while my light cavalry are based on the Polish Flying Hussars but they also use Semi-Automatic Pistols and carbines as well.

okay good to know, what do your heavy cab use?

They use these as weapons
Composite bow: Same as that carried by the Toxotai.
Kontarion: or lance, slightly shorter and less thick than that used by the skutatoi which could also be thrown like a javelin.
Spathion: Also identical to the infantry weapon.
Dagger
Battle axe: Usually strapped to the saddle as a backup weapon and tool.
Bambakion: Same as that of the infantry but with a leather corselet usually depicted as colour red.
In addition,they use semi automatic carbines and pistols as well.
My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49

My favorite singers are Psy,Carly Rae Jepsen,and Katy Perry

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Postby Great Empire of Gamilus » Thu May 01, 2014 8:00 pm

could you provide a template for that?
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Postby Whiteshore » Thu May 01, 2014 8:01 pm

How would the mongols(who The BaRen RP's)react to my cavalry from hell?
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Postby Whiteshore » Thu May 01, 2014 8:04 pm

And BTW,my main source for soldiers are the Prussian aristocracy and Cossacks who were on the ship UNS Unity.
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My favorite singers are Psy,Carly Rae Jepsen,and Katy Perry

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Bering
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Postby Bering » Thu May 01, 2014 8:08 pm

Whiteshore wrote:And BTW,my main source for soldiers are the Prussian aristocracy and Cossacks who were on the ship UNS Unity.

I believe the Prussian were more infantry based, but I could be wrong
and why would there be Prussian aristocracy in that manner, if the ship left earth some time around now or later then I doubt Prussian aristocracy would be anything like it was back when they served Prussia/Imperial Germany

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Postby Whiteshore » Thu May 01, 2014 8:10 pm

Bering wrote:
Whiteshore wrote:And BTW,my main source for soldiers are the Prussian aristocracy and Cossacks who were on the ship UNS Unity.

I believe the Prussian were more infantry based, but I could be wrong
and why would there be Prussian aristocracy in that manner, if the ship left earth some time around now or later then I doubt Prussian aristocracy would be anything like it was back when they served Prussia/Imperial Germany

Ah,but what do you think of the fact I rely on Mission-type tactics?So,what do you think of the Cossacks then?
My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49

My favorite singers are Psy,Carly Rae Jepsen,and Katy Perry

#DownWithReactionaries
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Postby The BaRen » Thu May 01, 2014 8:11 pm

Whiteshore wrote:How would the mongols(who The BaRen RP's)react to my cavalry from hell?

Considering on how the Prussians weren't very cavalry ordinated, and that the Mongols lived on horseback. Them Cossacks...
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be pretty damn funny if she pushed you off the railing....

Lazssia wrote:So humanity is the crazy hobo of the cosmos? I can dig it.

Yugahkistan wrote:Our Supreme Leader's passion flows like a great river. Also like a great river he drowns people. If love interest is strong swimmer she will survive

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The BaRen
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Postby The BaRen » Thu May 01, 2014 8:12 pm

BTW, where is the IC?
The Unites State-Of-Minds wrote:
The V O I D wrote:and the psychopathic love has sailed. congrats, an NPC with natural-born psychopathy is going to enter ANO.


be pretty damn funny if she pushed you off the railing....

Lazssia wrote:So humanity is the crazy hobo of the cosmos? I can dig it.

Yugahkistan wrote:Our Supreme Leader's passion flows like a great river. Also like a great river he drowns people. If love interest is strong swimmer she will survive

I am
-of Spanish, German, Irish, and Native American Descent
-a juvenile offender
-stoner
-Royalty for Life -PaRcside CFL X7-

Cro$$ i$ Bo$$
Ain't no Pity in -R- City
$$ gReen Ragz $$
Ca$hed Out

Free my brothers in prison. We brothers in every way but blood.

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Whiteshore
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Postby Whiteshore » Thu May 01, 2014 8:13 pm

The BaRen wrote:BTW, where is the IC?

The BaRen,what do you think of my army's cavalry being based on both the Polish Hussars and the Roman Cataphracts?
My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49

My favorite singers are Psy,Carly Rae Jepsen,and Katy Perry

#DownWithReactionaries
#StandWithProgressivists

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Bering
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Postby Bering » Thu May 01, 2014 8:17 pm

Whiteshore wrote:
Bering wrote:I believe the Prussian were more infantry based, but I could be wrong
and why would there be Prussian aristocracy in that manner, if the ship left earth some time around now or later then I doubt Prussian aristocracy would be anything like it was back when they served Prussia/Imperial Germany

Ah,but what do you think of the fact I rely on Mission-type tactics?So,what do you think of the Cossacks then?

Cossacks are still around

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Postby The BaRen » Thu May 01, 2014 8:17 pm

Whiteshore wrote:
The BaRen wrote:BTW, where is the IC?

The BaRen,what do you think of my army's cavalry being based on both the Polish Hussars and the Roman Cataphracts?

Awesome.
IC?
The Unites State-Of-Minds wrote:
The V O I D wrote:and the psychopathic love has sailed. congrats, an NPC with natural-born psychopathy is going to enter ANO.


be pretty damn funny if she pushed you off the railing....

Lazssia wrote:So humanity is the crazy hobo of the cosmos? I can dig it.

Yugahkistan wrote:Our Supreme Leader's passion flows like a great river. Also like a great river he drowns people. If love interest is strong swimmer she will survive

I am
-of Spanish, German, Irish, and Native American Descent
-a juvenile offender
-stoner
-Royalty for Life -PaRcside CFL X7-

Cro$$ i$ Bo$$
Ain't no Pity in -R- City
$$ gReen Ragz $$
Ca$hed Out

Free my brothers in prison. We brothers in every way but blood.

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Whiteshore
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Postby Whiteshore » Thu May 01, 2014 8:18 pm

The BaRen wrote:
Whiteshore wrote:The BaRen,what do you think of my army's cavalry being based on both the Polish Hussars and the Roman Cataphracts?

Awesome.
IC?

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My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49

My favorite singers are Psy,Carly Rae Jepsen,and Katy Perry

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Postby Bearon » Thu May 01, 2014 8:20 pm

Have you moved my territory to an island on the Eastern side of the map?
Nothing to see here. Move along.

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Bering
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Postby Bering » Thu May 01, 2014 9:22 pm

Whiteshore wrote:
Bering wrote:I will help you a lot in the early stages until we can get a decent infrastructure going

And can you create an analysis of what my military's organization,equippment,and tactics would probably look like?

I want to warn you I am no expert

Organization would probably be divided into two groups. Your cavalry (both heavy and light) would probably use the platoon as a basic unit. That said Heavy cavalry would probably stay in company sized units because they are focused on frontline combat so they would favor staying in large units to fight the enemy. The Light cavalry will probably be more focused on platoon and small group organization because they will focus on flank attacks. Platoons will probably be the smallest that a Heavy Cavalry Unit (HCU) will operate in and probably the base of an independent attachment of Light Cavalry Units (LCU). You will probably assign them as regiments on an operational level, but on tactical they will probably operate as smaller units because cavalry does not straight up fight the enemy. On average, HCUs will cost more, be harder to train, and in general be smaller in number to LCUs which is what will make them a more elite force while LCUs will probably be more experienced. So basic organization will be Regiments that are divided into companies that are divided into Platoons that will handle most of the work, while Light Cavalry might be divided into something like squads.

Equipment would probably be better handled by you, but from what I can gleam: HCUs will be more useful against the less developed nations as being to heavily armored can hurt them if they fight opponents that have guns or mountainous terrain. Their heavy armor will make their horses more easily tired which means that they will largely be confined to established supply lines. They should be trained in several types of weapons so that they can be as fluid as the situation demands. LCUs will be the backbone of your army as they are more versatile and expendable. They should be trained in only a few times of weapons as they will need to be light on their feet to stay useful. They should be able to travel farther than the heavies and on more difficult terrain. Training them to act like dragoons will probably be very useful as well.

Tactics, I explained some of it earlier, but here is the rest. HCU will be on the frontlines, they will charge into the main troop formation and then charge out once they have broken the unit significantly. The LCUs will focus on harassing the enemy from the sides and leaving before the enemy can properly respond; that is why they will focus on smaller unit actions, one unit will attack on the side and another can attack on the opposite causing confusion amongst the enemy. The LCUs will probably take part in riskier actions because they are more expendable, but this will mean that you will have a solid corp of veterans among the new recruits. Risky does not mean suicidal, the missions can be dangerous, but should have a good chance of the soldiers returning alive. Also the LCUs are better suited for long range patrols and reconnaissance because their horses can travel for longer periods of times without being weighed down. In general be mindful of areas with uneven terrain and steep differences in height, cavalry does not usually do well in these.

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Postby United Martains » Thu May 01, 2014 9:29 pm

Bearon wrote:Have you moved my territory to an island on the Eastern side of the map?

But you're already there....
"The best attack is a good defense... wait, what?"
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Bearon
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Postby Bearon » Thu May 01, 2014 10:11 pm

I want the entire island no just half of it.
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Nothing to see here. Move along.

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