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Kryskov
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Postby Kryskov » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:22 pm

Roski wrote:*cries self to sleep*

You were already accepted bruh.

Go help your Andaman friends out.

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Aden Protectorate
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Postby Aden Protectorate » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:22 pm

Nation Name: Assyrian State
Capital City: Aleppo
Claimed Territory:
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Population: 7,000,000
National Flag:
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Head of State: Emperor Burnabusiash III
Head of Government: Keeper of the Sepatarchy Aturaye V
Government Type: absolute monarchy under the protection of France
National Ideologies: Entrepot trade, Assyrian nationalism, Merchant statism
History:
    The Assyrian people are a Semitic race that originated in the Ancient Mesopatamia, the speak and write a isolate dialect of Eastern Aramaic. Assyrians are descended from the Sumero-Akkadian culture and civilization that developed in Mesopotamia, and are suspected to have originated in the Northern Akkadian lands which would be given the name Assyria. Over the years after the collapse of the Akkadian civilization, the Assyrians migrated west into what we call Syria in the Western Levant.

    The modern Assyrian state was founded in the city of Aleppo by Assyrian rebels in the year 1367, who occupied the city from the Islamic Caliphate, which ruled Mesopotamia and the Levant. The Rebels , named the Legions for Assyria where lead by Burnabusiash Choldon, a silversmith in Aleppo, the founder of the ruling Choldon dynasty. Once the city was captured by the Assyrians they proclaimed the Assyrian State, which would crown Burnabusiash Choldon Aydon or Emperor. As Aydon he would be known as Burnabusiash the Magnificent.

    The Islamic Caliphate was weak, and the Assyrian Legions quickly occupied Dimascus and Alawi. However the city of Homs withheld in Central Assyria, preventing the Assyrians from crossing into the Mountains of Lebanon and occupying the great port city of Byblos. Soon the Islamic Caliphate had lost all other territories in Assyria and focused all their efforts in keeping the city of Homs, there by keeping the Rich ports and cities of Lebanon.

    Unfortunately the city of Homs would stay under the hold of the Caliphate until the third king after Burnabusiash the Magnificent. In 1401 the city finally fell, the city had been starving for years and finally the governor of the city opened the gates to the Assyrian Legions. The rapid expansion into Lebanon increased the naval ability of Assyria.

    For hundreds of years afterwards the Assyrians would dominate trade in the Mediterranean, establishing contacts with the Mercahnts in Italy, Greece and North Africa. Three successive wars from 1678-1702 between Assyria and the aging Papal States established Assyrian hegemony in Italy. However like most great powers the majesty of Assyria began to fade. Though still a great merchant republic it was targeted by European forces as a potential colonial establishment. In 1714, a mere 12 years after establishing its Hegemony over the Papal States disaster struck in the form of France.

    The French had always shown influence in Assyria, and by 1714 the Assyrians had lost all there great prestige. They had been bested by Italian merchants and European traders. Colonialism decreased the value of their once one-of-a-kind products. In 1714 on August the Third the Emperor of Assyria submitted to France establishing Assyria as a protectorate of France. Nationalism now stirs in Assyria, the Sepatarchy is dominated by pro-independence rulers and no-one can tell what the future will bring.

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Just putting this out here, in case Byzantium is not accepted.

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Morphius
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Postby Morphius » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:23 pm

Kryskov wrote:I'm interested in knowing about this secret technology that allows the Mughals to keep a steady bombardment in the rain :P

Morphius wrote:Can I play as the Iroquois confederacy? If so, and no one has done so yet, reserved

Uh...that land is kind taken.

Didnt see that until just now :p
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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:23 pm

Kryskov wrote:
Roski wrote:*cries self to sleep*

You were already accepted bruh.

Go help your Andaman friends out.

Yes. The Andamans need a lot of help... I'll ask you IC to send some troops to reinforce the Andaman troops in Burma.

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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:25 pm

Kryskov wrote:I'm interested in knowing about this secret technology that allows the Mughals to keep a steady bombardment in the rain :P

Morphius wrote:Can I play as the Iroquois confederacy? If so, and no one has done so yet, reserved

Uh...that land is kind taken.


Erm, gunpowder?

You keep it in well-sealed barrels, under tarps.

Then you load it in sections and fire.

Same principle as firing at sea, actually. Many fighting forces would likely have lacquerwork boxes for powder to keep it dry for long periods of time, only removing what was necessary for immediate opeartions.
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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:27 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Kryskov wrote:I'm interested in knowing about this secret technology that allows the Mughals to keep a steady bombardment in the rain :P


Uh...that land is kind taken.


Erm, gunpowder?

You keep it in well-sealed barrels, under tarps.

Then you load it in sections and fire.

Same principle as firing at sea, actually. Many fighting forces would likely have lacquerwork boxes for powder to keep it dry for long periods of time, only removing what was necessary for immediate opeartions.

Also, just a reminder: Don't believe your own propaganda. The Burmese have been assimilated into the Confederated Kingdom for more than 200 years, and officially entered it more than 250 years ago IC.
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Roski
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Postby Roski » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:28 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Kryskov wrote:You were already accepted bruh.

Go help your Andaman friends out.

Yes. The Andamans need a lot of help... I'll ask you IC to send some troops to reinforce the Andaman troops in Burma.

Hit that up! I r be friend :)
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

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I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:28 pm

Roski wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Yes. The Andamans need a lot of help... I'll ask you IC to send some troops to reinforce the Andaman troops in Burma.

Hit that up! I r be friend :)

Ok. What kind of weaponry/equipment do you have?
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Roski
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Postby Roski » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:30 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Roski wrote:Hit that up! I r be friend :)

Ok. What kind of weaponry/equipment do you have?

Captured Mongol weapons. (I have guns)
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:31 pm

Roski wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Ok. What kind of weaponry/equipment do you have?

Captured Mongol weapons. (I have guns)

Hopefully you have flintlocks.

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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:32 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Erm, gunpowder?

You keep it in well-sealed barrels, under tarps.

Then you load it in sections and fire.

Same principle as firing at sea, actually. Many fighting forces would likely have lacquerwork boxes for powder to keep it dry for long periods of time, only removing what was necessary for immediate opeartions.

Also, just a reminder: Don't believe your own propaganda. The Burmese have been assimilated into the Confederated Kingdom for more than 200 years, and officially entered it more than 250 years ago IC.


Ah, yes, I recall that from your history.

Even before your PoD though, there were hostilities between the two. C'est la vie.
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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:33 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Also, just a reminder: Don't believe your own propaganda. The Burmese have been assimilated into the Confederated Kingdom for more than 200 years, and officially entered it more than 250 years ago IC.


Ah, yes, I recall that from your history.

Even before your PoD though, there were hostilities between the two. C'est la vie.

True, but that's nothing 200 years of peace, harmony, and assimilation into Thai culture cant fix.
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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:34 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ah, yes, I recall that from your history.

Even before your PoD though, there were hostilities between the two. C'est la vie.

True, but that's nothing 200 years of peace, harmony, and assimilation into Thai culture cant fix.


Or is it? ;)

Regardless, the Mughals will obviously be establishing Burma as a separate province from Siam.
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Kazahan
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Postby Kazahan » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:36 pm

would anyone care to help me out with these massive empires around me? should the Mughals or Aegyptians take The Arabian Peninsula well just think not long from now oils gonna rather important and id be rather favorable to anyone that helps me course thats in the long run but hey your running a country and you gotta think long term right?

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Aldelxane
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Postby Aldelxane » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:36 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:True, but that's nothing 200 years of peace, harmony, and assimilation into Thai culture cant fix.


Or is it? ;)

Regardless, the Mughals will obviously be establishing Burma as a separate province from Siam.

We'll see about that... (Probably gonna die horribly, but might not die horribly.)

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Lingang
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Postby Lingang » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:37 pm

Aden Protectorate wrote:
Nation Name: Assyrian State
Capital City: Aleppo
Claimed Territory:

Population: 7,000,000
National Flag:

Head of State: Emperor Burnabusiash III
Head of Government: Keeper of the Sepatarchy Aturaye V
Government Type: absolute monarchy under the protection of France
National Ideologies: Entrepot trade, Assyrian nationalism, Merchant statism
History:
    The Assyrian people are a Semitic race that originated in the Ancient Mesopatamia, the speak and write a isolate dialect of Eastern Aramaic. Assyrians are descended from the Sumero-Akkadian culture and civilization that developed in Mesopotamia, and are suspected to have originated in the Northern Akkadian lands which would be given the name Assyria. Over the years after the collapse of the Akkadian civilization, the Assyrians migrated west into what we call Syria in the Western Levant.

    The modern Assyrian state was founded in the city of Aleppo by Assyrian rebels in the year 1367, who occupied the city from the Islamic Caliphate, which ruled Mesopotamia and the Levant. The Rebels , named the Legions for Assyria where lead by Burnabusiash Choldon, a silversmith in Aleppo, the founder of the ruling Choldon dynasty. Once the city was captured by the Assyrians they proclaimed the Assyrian State, which would crown Burnabusiash Choldon Aydon or Emperor. As Aydon he would be known as Burnabusiash the Magnificent.

    The Islamic Caliphate was weak, and the Assyrian Legions quickly occupied Dimascus and Alawi. However the city of Homs withheld in Central Assyria, preventing the Assyrians from crossing into the Mountains of Lebanon and occupying the great port city of Byblos. Soon the Islamic Caliphate had lost all other territories in Assyria and focused all their efforts in keeping the city of Homs, there by keeping the Rich ports and cities of Lebanon.

    Unfortunately the city of Homs would stay under the hold of the Caliphate until the third king after Burnabusiash the Magnificent. In 1401 the city finally fell, the city had been starving for years and finally the governor of the city opened the gates to the Assyrian Legions. The rapid expansion into Lebanon increased the naval ability of Assyria.

    For hundreds of years afterwards the Assyrians would dominate trade in the Mediterranean, establishing contacts with the Mercahnts in Italy, Greece and North Africa. Three successive wars from 1678-1702 between Assyria and the aging Papal States established Assyrian hegemony in Italy. However like most great powers the majesty of Assyria began to fade. Though still a great merchant republic it was targeted by European forces as a potential colonial establishment. In 1714, a mere 12 years after establishing its Hegemony over the Papal States disaster struck in the form of France.

    The French had always shown influence in Assyria, and by 1714 the Assyrians had lost all there great prestige. They had been bested by Italian merchants and European traders. Colonialism decreased the value of their once one-of-a-kind products. In 1714 on August the Third the Emperor of Assyria submitted to France establishing Assyria as a protectorate of France. Nationalism now stirs in Assyria, the Sepatarchy is dominated by pro-independence rulers and no-one can tell what the future will bring.

429- do not remove, or else your app won't be accepted


Just putting this out here, in case Byzantium is not accepted.

Hello (potential)neighbor!
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Roski
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Postby Roski » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:37 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Roski wrote:Captured Mongol weapons. (I have guns)

Hopefully you have flintlocks.

Not necessarily, but I do have "hand cannons", "bombs" and the type of firearm right before flintlocks.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:37 pm

Kazahan wrote:would anyone care to help me out with these massive empires around me? should the Mughals or Aegyptians take The Arabian Peninsula well just think not long from now oils gonna rather important and id be rather favorable to anyone that helps me course thats in the long run but hey your running a country and you gotta think long term right?


I'm not in that part of the world, really. Talk to the Persians.

Aldelxane wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Or is it? ;)

Regardless, the Mughals will obviously be establishing Burma as a separate province from Siam.

We'll see about that... (Probably gonna die horribly, but might not die horribly.)


I put my odds at "Minor Victory". It'll take time, blood, and treasure, but it'll get done.
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Liecthenbourg
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:39 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Or is it? ;)

Regardless, the Mughals will obviously be establishing Burma as a separate province from Siam.

We'll see about that... (Probably gonna die horribly, but might not die horribly.)

I imagine your people putting up a very patriotic resistance.
Personally, I'd have that recorded in history despite being on the opposing side to remember their defiant defence.
Impeach the Mayor of Lego City Legalise Falling into the River The Rescue Helicopter Needs to be Built! HEY!
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I'm just a simple Kylarite, trying to make my way on NS.

The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
Kylaris, the death of Esquarium, and Prem <3

The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:41 pm

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:We'll see about that... (Probably gonna die horribly, but might not die horribly.)

I imagine your people putting up a very patriotic resistance.
Personally, I'd have that recorded in history despite being on the opposing side to remember their defiant defence.

withdraw to the Malay neck and bleed them dry.
I'm really tired

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Liecthenbourg
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:42 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Liecthenbourg wrote:I imagine your people putting up a very patriotic resistance.
Personally, I'd have that recorded in history despite being on the opposing side to remember their defiant defence.

withdraw to the Malay neck and bleed them dry.

Which side are you talking to, Inesea?
Impeach the Mayor of Lego City Legalise Falling into the River The Rescue Helicopter Needs to be Built! HEY!
Grand-Master of the Kyluminati


The Region of Kylaris
I'm just a simple Kylarite, trying to make my way on NS.

The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
Kylaris, the death of Esquarium, and Prem <3

The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

To understand European history watch these: Cultural erosion, German and Italian history, a brief history of Germany.

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:44 pm

Liecthenbourg wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:withdraw to the Malay neck and bleed them dry.

Which side are you talking to, Inesea?

Siam withdraw to the Malay neck and go spartan on them
I'm really tired

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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:44 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Liecthenbourg wrote:I imagine your people putting up a very patriotic resistance.
Personally, I'd have that recorded in history despite being on the opposing side to remember their defiant defence.

withdraw to the Malay neck and bleed them dry.


I like this plan.

The Malay neck doesn't have anything I want, and this is the age of mass armies, not even gatling guns. If the Andamans want to starve their army into disintegration as a fighting force via strategic withdrawal, I can work with that.

And the fact that I'm saying I want you to do it clearly means I don't want you to do it, so you should definitely do it.
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Lingang
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Postby Lingang » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:45 pm

Kazahan wrote:would anyone care to help me out with these massive empires around me? should the Mughals or Aegyptians take The Arabian Peninsula well just think not long from now oils gonna rather important and id be rather favorable to anyone that helps me course thats in the long run but hey your running a country and you gotta think long term right?

I'll annex you! That'l help, riiiight? :twisted:
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"Check yourself before you Shrek yourself" ~ Independent State AF
"And He shall smite the wicked, and plunge them into the fiery pitt!" ~ Judge Claude Frollo (*then proceeds to fall in himself*)

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Emilio Aguinaldo
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:46 pm

G, would the Mughal emperor want a copy of the cientoy dos? A hundred and two gun ship.
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