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Postby Kryskov » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:31 pm

Aldelxane wrote:People on land =/= land.
Kinda surprised none of the other Asian nations oppose Mughal supremacy...

Me too. I especially thought Japan would absolutely hate the idea. Especially considering this opens up the doorway to Mughal expansion in SE Asia and, eventually, E Asia.

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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:32 pm

Caltarania wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Right off, Im willing to sell eight 44 gun frigates


Which bring me back to my question:

HOW MANY SHIPS DO I HAVE.

In 1800, the British had the largest fleet, followed by the French then Spanish and Portuguese
I figure you are at the largest or second largest behind mua
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:34 pm

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Those would be useful indeed. To start off, what do you see as a fair compensation for such a purchase?

2 Million Reales?


Hmm. The closest figure I can find is a 38-gun frigate costing £20,800 in 1789. Accounting for inflation and the larger number of guns, and guessing that the Real is close to the pound, I'd assume they cost about ~19,000 to build, the Mughal Empire would be prepared to offer you 150,000 Reales for eight 44 gun frigates.
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Postby Kryskov » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:36 pm

I'd say:

1. France
2. Spain
3. UK
4. Scandinavia

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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:39 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:2 Million Reales?


Hmm. The closest figure I can find is a 38-gun frigate costing £20,800 in 1789. Accounting for inflation and the larger number of guns, and guessing that the Real is close to the pound, I'd assume they cost about ~19,000 to build, the Mughal Empire would be prepared to offer you 150,000 Reales for eight 44 gun frigates.

The first 6 frigates of the USN cost 700,000$ of then dollars. I DUNNO MATHS
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:41 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Hmm. The closest figure I can find is a 38-gun frigate costing £20,800 in 1789. Accounting for inflation and the larger number of guns, and guessing that the Real is close to the pound, I'd assume they cost about ~19,000 to build, the Mughal Empire would be prepared to offer you 150,000 Reales for eight 44 gun frigates.

The first 6 frigates of the USN cost 700,000$ of then dollars. I DUNNO MATHS

Going by ACIV Logic, 1000 Reales is about 100 Pounds.

But Spain didn't get super hyper silver inflation in this, did it?
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:42 pm

Liecthenbourg wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:The first 6 frigates of the USN cost 700,000$ of then dollars. I DUNNO MATHS

Going by ACIV Logic, 1000 Reales is about 100 Pounds.

But Spain didn't get super hyper silver inflation in this, did it?

No.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:43 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Hmm. The closest figure I can find is a 38-gun frigate costing £20,800 in 1789. Accounting for inflation and the larger number of guns, and guessing that the Real is close to the pound, I'd assume they cost about ~19,000 to build, the Mughal Empire would be prepared to offer you 150,000 Reales for eight 44 gun frigates.

The first 6 frigates of the USN cost 700,000$ of then dollars. I DUNNO MATHS


Wut.

Was the USD, like, really weak then? That's a hilariously large difference. I mean, I presume your currency would be worth an amount similar to the pound, not the currency of a nation that's 20 years oldish.

That's seriously uproarious.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:46 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:The first 6 frigates of the USN cost 700,000$ of then dollars. I DUNNO MATHS


Wut.

Was the USD, like, really weak then? That's a hilariously large difference. I mean, I presume your currency would be worth an amount similar to the pound, not the currency of a nation that's 20 years oldish.

That's seriously uproarious.

Eh. Pay me in gold and spice. Fuck currencies.
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Postby Destrovia » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:48 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:The first 6 frigates of the USN cost 700,000$ of then dollars. I DUNNO MATHS


Wut.

Was the USD, like, really weak then? That's a hilariously large difference. I mean, I presume your currency would be worth an amount similar to the pound, not the currency of a nation that's 20 years oldish.

That's seriously uproarious.

Well, the dollar translated to more before the stock market crash. 700,000 was a shit ton of money; it cost 1,000,000 in loans do create that big red bridgy thing in San Francisco in money from that time.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:52 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Wut.

Was the USD, like, really weak then? That's a hilariously large difference. I mean, I presume your currency would be worth an amount similar to the pound, not the currency of a nation that's 20 years oldish.

That's seriously uproarious.

Eh. Pay me in gold and spice. Fuck currencies.


Sounds reasonable.

I'll offer two hundred pounds of gold, and as much spice as you can fit in a standard size merchantman.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:53 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Eh. Pay me in gold and spice. Fuck currencies.


Sounds reasonable.

I'll offer two hundred pounds of gold, and as much spice as you can fit in a standard size merchantman.

Deal. *Immediately increaes average merchant ship size manyfold*
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:55 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Sounds reasonable.

I'll offer two hundred pounds of gold, and as much spice as you can fit in a standard size merchantman.

Deal. *Immediately increaes average merchant ship size manyfold*


Hah. Standard size across the world, since I presume there is one, more or less.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:57 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Deal. *Immediately increaes average merchant ship size manyfold*


Hah. Standard size across the world, since I presume there is one, more or less.

Nope. British ships are usually 10% smaller than world average(Spanish, French, Portuguese) and Dutch are 25-50% larger than world average in terms of cargo capacity.
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Postby Lingang » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:57 pm

Italy, I have sent you a letter.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:57 pm

Lingang wrote:Italy, I have sent you a letter.

Lol. Iberia has owned Morocco for three hundred years
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Postby Lingang » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:58 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Lingang wrote:Italy, I have sent you a letter.

Lol. Iberia has owned Morocco for three hundred years

Oh. That will be changed.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:59 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Hah. Standard size across the world, since I presume there is one, more or less.

Nope. British ships are usually 10% smaller than world average(Spanish, French, Portuguese) and Dutch are 25-50% larger than world average in terms of cargo capacity.


Oh? That's interesting. Well, rent a Dutch ship :P
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:59 pm

Lingang wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Lol. Iberia has owned Morocco for three hundred years

Oh. That will be changed.

Like, threat or IC fix?
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Postby Lingang » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:00 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Lingang wrote:Oh. That will be changed.

Like, threat or IC fix?

IC. Did you mean thread or threat?
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:03 pm

Lingang wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Like, threat or IC fix?

IC. Did you mean thread or threat?

Like, were you threatening me, or were you going to change the post?

Like, Oh, Ill fix that. Or oh, Ill fix that.
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Postby Lingang » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:05 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Lingang wrote:IC. Did you mean thread or threat?

Like, were you threatening me, or were you going to change the post?

Like, Oh, Ill fix that. Or oh, Ill fix that.

:?: :?: :?: No, I changed the post. I was adressing Italy (you aren't Italy, are you?) :unsure:
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:06 pm

Lingang wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Like, were you threatening me, or were you going to change the post?

Like, Oh, Ill fix that. Or oh, Ill fix that.

:?: :?: :?: No, I changed the post. I was adressing Italy (you aren't Italy, are you?) :unsure:


He isn't.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:06 pm

Lingang wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Like, were you threatening me, or were you going to change the post?

Like, Oh, Ill fix that. Or oh, Ill fix that.

:?: :?: :?: No, I changed the post. I was adressing Italy (you aren't Italy, are you?) :unsure:

I'm Iberia. You fixed it IC. Good. i was worried you were going to change my ownership IC. AKA INVASION
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Postby Lingang » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:07 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Lingang wrote: :?: :?: :?: No, I changed the post. I was adressing Italy (you aren't Italy, are you?) :unsure:

I'm Iberia. You fixed it IC. Good. i was worried you were going to change my ownership IC. AKA INVASION

No, your'e good as long as you don't touch Aegypt. Its Italy I'm worried about...
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