Guns of Our Forefathers (1700s, OOC)

[Caltarania]

That goes without saying.
Despite this, any relationship with the Mughals will be less on equal terms, and more like the Mughals saying: "You do what we say, or you don't get any spices. BAD Europeans. Learn your place."

Mm, not so much. The Mughals want ships and manufactured goods, to a decent extent. Many others want raw materials, spices, silks, and markets for the products of their industry. Trade is very much a win-win situation.

'Specially with 0 tariffs.

-High fives G-Tech-

What would happen if the Royal Navy gave the Mughals some ships? Closer relations?



But it'd be cool.

Either way, the civil war thing is gonna happen, because I want to fully abolish slavery, and the south will revolt if I do.

Perhaps, instead of the 'über-union', there's a good old-fashioned succession crisis where the UK wants one person on the throne and Austria wants someone else.

Nah, the whole point is that Austria and Britain, who are already aligned, become Uber-Union and Europe get's pissed because European monarchs hate bigger nations.

[Kryskov]

It'd be cool, but then again:

1. Y'all would have an uber-empire, which I am going to block.
2. We'd have a war before some nations get their introduction posts up.

I may trigger a random event anyways that would lead to that... can we say the sons of Henry V are also potential heirs?

Also, random events are up, Andaman was given a break since I don't think they should get steamrolled in like the first two days of the RP.

[Aldelxane]

It'd be cool, but then again:

1. Y'all would have an uber-empire, which I am going to block.
2. We'd have a war before some nations get their introduction posts up.

I may trigger a random event anyways that would lead to that... can we say the sons of Henry V are also potential heirs?

Also, random events are up, Andaman was given a break since I don't think they should get steamrolled in like the first two days of the RP.

What were the Japanese invading?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Calt: Likely. The Mughals have a fleet, but it's assuredly second rate compared to European powers. They've never had any real reason to develop ot, as it's mainly used for the protection of trade. More protection for trade would obviously lead to gratitude and more trade concessions.

[G-Tech Corporation]

It'd be cool, but then again:

1. Y'all would have an uber-empire, which I am going to block.
2. We'd have a war before some nations get their introduction posts up.

I may trigger a random event anyways that would lead to that... can we say the sons of Henry V are also potential heirs?

Also, random events are up, Andaman was given a break since I don't think they should get steamrolled in like the first two days of the RP.

Oh, it won't be that quick. I guesstimate a week or two of posting until Andaman is conquered.

[Caltarania]

Calt: Likely. The Mughals have a fleet, but it's assuredly second rate compared to European powers. They've never had any real reason to develop ot, as it's mainly used for the protection of trade. More protection for trade would obviously lead to gratitude and more trade concessions.

Alright. As soon as people advise me on ship numbers I'll tell you how many I am willing to spare.

[Paketo]

It'd be cool, but then again:

1. Y'all would have an uber-empire, which I am going to block.
2. We'd have a war before some nations get their introduction posts up.

I may trigger a random event anyways that would lead to that... can we say the sons of Henry V are also potential heirs?

Also, random events are up, Andaman was given a break since I don't think they should get steamrolled in like the first two days of the RP.

Oh, it won't be that quick. I guesstimate a week or two of posting until Andaman is conquered.

i agree with this

[Lunas Legion]

So, was I accepted?

[Caltarania]

It'd be cool, but then again:

1. Y'all would have an uber-empire, which I am going to block.
2. We'd have a war before some nations get their introduction posts up.

I may trigger a random event anyways that would lead to that... can we say the sons of Henry V are also potential heirs?

Also, random events are up, Andaman was given a break since I don't think they should get steamrolled in like the first two days of the RP.

No, the heirs are in House von Hapsburg and maybe a surviving bastard from House Stuart because that would be cool.

[Aldelxane]

It'd be cool, but then again:

1. Y'all would have an uber-empire, which I am going to block.
2. We'd have a war before some nations get their introduction posts up.

I may trigger a random event anyways that would lead to that... can we say the sons of Henry V are also potential heirs?

Also, random events are up, Andaman was given a break since I don't think they should get steamrolled in like the first two days of the RP.

Oh, it won't be that quick. I guesstimate a week or two of posting until Andaman is conquered.

You'll have to wait till after the monsoon season, after which my fortifications will be ready.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Oh, it won't be that quick. I guesstimate a week or two of posting until Andaman is conquered.

You'll have to wait till after the monsoon season, after which my fortifications will be ready.

Why would I have to do that? I specifically have highways in the Mughal Empure for things such as this, to maintain supply lines. It'll be slow going, sure, but I think pushing past any border outposts is worth it. And the monsoon will prevent the Andamans from bringing up reinforcements rapidly, given their inferior road system, so this monsoon should actually allow reasonable gains for the Second Imperial Army.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

You'll have to wait till after the monsoon season, after which my fortifications will be ready.

Why would I have to do that? I specifically have highways in the Mughal Empure for things such as this, to maintain supply lines. It'll be slow going, sure, but I think pushing past any border outposts is worth it. And the monsoon will prevent the Andamans from bringing up reinforcements rapidly, given their inferior road system, so this monsoon should actually allow reasonable gains for the Second Imperial Army.

HIghways of dirt in lots of places, im assuming.

[Aldelxane]

Why would I have to do that? I specifically have highways in the Mughal Empure for things such as this, to maintain supply lines. It'll be slow going, sure, but I think pushing past any border outposts is worth it. And the monsoon will prevent the Andamans from bringing up reinforcements rapidly, given their inferior road system, so this monsoon should actually allow reasonable gains for the Second Imperial Army.

HIghways of dirt in lots of places, im assuming.

The Andamans also know the terrain on their side of the border a lot better.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Why would I have to do that? I specifically have highways in the Mughal Empure for things such as this, to maintain supply lines. It'll be slow going, sure, but I think pushing past any border outposts is worth it. And the monsoon will prevent the Andamans from bringing up reinforcements rapidly, given their inferior road system, so this monsoon should actually allow reasonable gains for the Second Imperial Army.

HIghways of dirt in lots of places, im assuming.

In the Mughal Empire? Roads would be dirt, but Imperial Highways are at least nominally paved. Poorer provinces might only be paved every decade or so, but technically they are.

HIghways of dirt in lots of places, im assuming.

The Andamans also know the terrain on their side of the border a lot better.

Of course.

[Aldelxane]

HIghways of dirt in lots of places, im assuming.

In the Mughal Empire? Roads would be dirt, but Imperial Highways are at least nominally paved. Poorer provinces might only be paved every decade or so, but technically they are.

The Andamans also know the terrain on their side of the border a lot better.

Of course.

And you have well-maintained Imperial Highways at the very edge of your empire?

[Kryskov]

You'll have to wait till after the monsoon season, after which my fortifications will be ready.

Why would I have to do that? I specifically have highways in the Mughal Empure for things such as this, to maintain supply lines. It'll be slow going, sure, but I think pushing past any border outposts is worth it. And the monsoon will prevent the Andamans from bringing up reinforcements rapidly, given their inferior road system, so this monsoon should actually allow reasonable gains for the Second Imperial Army.

I don't think the monsoon affects SE Asia quite as much; I think it just makes it a bit more windy and stormy, which is fairly easy to overcome (better than monsoon).

@Calt: It also wouldn't make sense because the British Royal Family is so extensive. What about Frederick? His brothers? George III?

[Caltarania]

Why would I have to do that? I specifically have highways in the Mughal Empure for things such as this, to maintain supply lines. It'll be slow going, sure, but I think pushing past any border outposts is worth it. And the monsoon will prevent the Andamans from bringing up reinforcements rapidly, given their inferior road system, so this monsoon should actually allow reasonable gains for the Second Imperial Army.

I don't think the monsoon affects SE Asia quite as much; I think it just makes it a bit more windy and stormy, which is fairly easy to overcome (better than monsoon).

@Calt: It also wouldn't make sense because the British Royal Family is so extensive. What about Frederick? His brothers? George III?

Frederick is in Austria; that's up to Allen whether he even still exists. Same about his brothers. As for George III, he hasn't been born in this timeline.

[Lingang]

What have I missed so far?

[Lunas Legion]

So, was I accepted?

[Liecthenbourg]

So, was I accepted?

I believe he said everyone was accepted.

[Kryskov]

Frederick is in Austria; that's up to Allen whether he even still exists. Same about his brothers. As for George III, he hasn't been born in this timeline.

They're all in Austria?

Yeah, no. Try again when it's more plausible.

@LL: Yeah, so long as you finish the history.

[G-Tech Corporation]

In the Mughal Empire? Roads would be dirt, but Imperial Highways are at least nominally paved. Poorer provinces might only be paved every decade or so, but technically they are.



Of course.

And you have well-maintained Imperial Highways at the very edge of your empire?

I don't see why they wouldn't be as well-maintained; historically it would be a better idea to ensure one can get forces to a frontier, rather than worrying about internal roads, from a military standpoint.

[Aldelxane]

What have I missed so far?

The Mughals are invading Southeast Asia, if you didn't see that already.

[Caltarania]

Also, Map: http://i.imgur.com/7uppHFa.png

And Kry, I'd say that the Huguenots would probably flee to both New France and the British American Colonies.

Frederick is in Austria; that's up to Allen whether he even still exists. Same about his brothers. As for George III, he hasn't been born in this timeline.

They're all in Austria?

Yeah, no. Try again when it's more plausible.

@LL: Yeah, so long as you finish the history.

..Yeah. Austria covers like all of central Europe, if you hadn't noticed. Ergo, they're in Allen's history, not mine.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Also, Map: http://i.imgur.com/7uppHFa.png

And Kry, I'd say that the Huguenots would probably flee to both New France and the British American Colonies.

They're all in Austria?

Yeah, no. Try again when it's more plausible.

@LL: Yeah, so long as you finish the history.

..Yeah. Austria covers like all of central Europe, if you hadn't noticed. Ergo, they're in Allen's history, not mine.

Or the tolerant Iberia.