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Postby Prussia-Poland » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:18 pm

Creataris wrote:
Prussia-Poland wrote:So you decimated your army

nope not really, since I included the ships crews as well then of course every army has reserves and trainees who could use some practical experience.

Dude, the original definition of decimation was "to select by lot and kill every tenth man"
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Postby Creataris » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:21 pm

Prussia-Poland wrote:
Creataris wrote:nope not really, since I included the ships crews as well then of course every army has reserves and trainees who could use some practical experience.

Dude, the original definition of decimation was "to select by lot and kill every tenth man"

shhhh, nobody need know besides who selects anything by lots nowadays, just have them line up in neat ordered rows and kill rows 10, 20, 30 etc.
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:02 pm

Yeah, i'm quitting. Fking Annihilator bankrupt the CIS and yet a FAR smaller Empire built it in months?

Fk no.
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Postby Prussia-Poland » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:04 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:Yeah, i'm quitting. Fking Annihilator bankrupt the CIS and yet a FAR smaller Empire built it in months?

Fk no.

What do you mean that the ship bankrupt me?
edit: no the Subjugator-class heavy cruiser did NOT bankrupt the CIS
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:08 pm

Prussia-Poland wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:Yeah, i'm quitting. Fking Annihilator bankrupt the CIS and yet a FAR smaller Empire built it in months?

Fk no.

What do you mean that the ship bankrupt me?
edit: no the Subjugator-class heavy cruiser did NOT bankrupt the CIS


The Annihilator bankrupt the First CIS, and you put the ANNIHILATOR.

Grievous's FLAGSHIP.
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Postby Prussia-Poland » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:13 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Prussia-Poland wrote:What do you mean that the ship bankrupt me?
edit: no the Subjugator-class heavy cruiser did NOT bankrupt the CIS


The Annihilator bankrupt the First CIS, and you put the ANNIHILATOR.

Grievous's FLAGSHIP.

The Annihilator is the name of the ship, like how in episode III Grievous' flagship is a Providence-class ship called the Invisible Hand
This is a Subjugator-class heavy cruiser named the Annihilator
here is a picture of a Subjugator-class heavy cruiser
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only five were built in cannon Star Wars
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Postby Elerian » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:21 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Prussia-Poland wrote:What do you mean that the ship bankrupt me?
edit: no the Subjugator-class heavy cruiser did NOT bankrupt the CIS


The Annihilator bankrupt the First CIS, and you put the ANNIHILATOR.

Grievous's FLAGSHIP.

Yes and at the same token somehow this invincible dreadnought that Bearon is building somehow isn't destroying his economy, which I would think would be incredibly weak.

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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:31 pm

Prussia-Poland wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
The Annihilator bankrupt the First CIS, and you put the ANNIHILATOR.

Grievous's FLAGSHIP.

The Annihilator is the name of the ship, like how in episode III Grievous' flagship is a Providence-class ship called the Invisible Hand
This is a Subjugator-class heavy cruiser named the Annihilator
here is a picture of a Subjugator-class heavy cruiser
Image
only five were built in cannon Star Wars


The Show isnt Canon.

According to the show, the Chiss did something in The Clone Wars other then be badasses.
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Postby Creataris » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:34 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Prussia-Poland wrote:The Annihilator is the name of the ship, like how in episode III Grievous' flagship is a Providence-class ship called the Invisible Hand
This is a Subjugator-class heavy cruiser named the Annihilator
here is a picture of a Subjugator-class heavy cruiser
Image
only five were built in cannon Star Wars


The Show isnt Canon.

According to the show, the Chiss did something in The Clone Wars other then be badasses.

That is a matter up for debate, some circles say its canon, others say it isn't along with much of the expanded universe but something's can be considered canon, this was done by Lucasarts and they have branded it canon. An example of a non-canon expanded universe event would be the series of zombie books in the Star Wars universe.
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:45 pm

Creataris wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
The Show isnt Canon.

According to the show, the Chiss did something in The Clone Wars other then be badasses.

That is a matter up for debate, some circles say its canon, others say it isn't along with much of the expanded universe but something's can be considered canon, this was done by Lucasarts and they have branded it canon. An example of a non-canon expanded universe event would be the series of zombie books in the Star Wars universe.


The Lucas is strong in this one.

''The Confederate Navy's most powerful battleship class, it had some design-similarities to both the Providence-class carrier/destroyer and the Recusant-class light destroyer,[4], but was larger than five Venator-class Star Destroyers[9] and totalled 4,845 meters in length.[3] The class was based around its ion pulse cannons, a weapons-system not used onboard any other warship class, due to its unique power-generation needs.[2]

Despite its status as the Confederacy's most powerful battleship design, eclipsing pre-war models like the Lucrehulk-class, the model was classified as a heavy cruiser and was one of the largest designs that came from the Confederate shipyards''

TNC has NO WHERE NEAR the raw materials the CIS ever had. Also, TNC would have less then no idea how to use the ion cannons.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

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Postby Prussia-Poland » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:46 pm

Creataris wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
The Show isnt Canon.

According to the show, the Chiss did something in The Clone Wars other then be badasses.

That is a matter up for debate, some circles say its canon, others say it isn't along with much of the expanded universe but something's can be considered canon, this was done by Lucasarts and they have branded it canon. An example of a non-canon expanded universe event would be the series of zombie books in the Star Wars universe.

Yes, thank you.
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Postby Prussia-Poland » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:49 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Creataris wrote:That is a matter up for debate, some circles say its canon, others say it isn't along with much of the expanded universe but something's can be considered canon, this was done by Lucasarts and they have branded it canon. An example of a non-canon expanded universe event would be the series of zombie books in the Star Wars universe.


The Lucas is strong in this one.

''The Confederate Navy's most powerful battleship class, it had some design-similarities to both the Providence-class carrier/destroyer and the Recusant-class light destroyer,[4], but was larger than five Venator-class Star Destroyers[9] and totalled 4,845 meters in length.[3] The class was based around its ion pulse cannons, a weapons-system not used onboard any other warship class, due to its unique power-generation needs.[2]

Despite its status as the Confederacy's most powerful battleship design, eclipsing pre-war models like the Lucrehulk-class, the model was classified as a heavy cruiser and was one of the largest designs that came from the Confederate shipyards''

TNC has NO WHERE NEAR the raw materials the CIS ever had. Also, TNC would have less then no idea how to use the ion cannons.

how could they have less than no idea how to use it.
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:51 pm

Prussia-Poland wrote:
Creataris wrote:That is a matter up for debate, some circles say its canon, others say it isn't along with much of the expanded universe but something's can be considered canon, this was done by Lucasarts and they have branded it canon. An example of a non-canon expanded universe event would be the series of zombie books in the Star Wars universe.

Yes, thank you.


The show is T-Canon, Television Canon.

We need OP Ruling what canon we're following.
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:52 pm

Prussia-Poland wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
The Lucas is strong in this one.

''The Confederate Navy's most powerful battleship class, it had some design-similarities to both the Providence-class carrier/destroyer and the Recusant-class light destroyer,[4], but was larger than five Venator-class Star Destroyers[9] and totalled 4,845 meters in length.[3] The class was based around its ion pulse cannons, a weapons-system not used onboard any other warship class, due to its unique power-generation needs.[2]

Despite its status as the Confederacy's most powerful battleship design, eclipsing pre-war models like the Lucrehulk-class, the model was classified as a heavy cruiser and was one of the largest designs that came from the Confederate shipyards''

TNC has NO WHERE NEAR the raw materials the CIS ever had. Also, TNC would have less then no idea how to use the ion cannons.

how could they have less than no idea how to use it.


The class was based around its ion pulse cannons, a weapons-system not used onboard any other warship class, due to its unique power-generation needs.

All CIS scientists are probobally dead by now, and if anyone would have the designs its The Galactic Empire.
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Postby Creataris » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:52 pm

Prussia-Poland wrote:
Creataris wrote:That is a matter up for debate, some circles say its canon, others say it isn't along with much of the expanded universe but something's can be considered canon, this was done by Lucasarts and they have branded it canon. An example of a non-canon expanded universe event would be the series of zombie books in the Star Wars universe.

Yes, thank you.

However Enclave is correct to a degree in regards to you being much smaller than and having less resources when compared to the Confederacy. But it is important to note that the old Confederacy had been fighting the war for some time and were constantly replacing lost ships and droids whilst building entirely new forces for new war zones. In my opinion if the old Confederacy had stopped building and using the recuscant destroyer the. They would have saved a lot of money since it is said that the ships frequently collided with other vessels because the ships droid brain couldn't react in time.
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:54 pm

Creataris wrote:
Prussia-Poland wrote:Yes, thank you.

However Enclave is correct to a degree in regards to you being much smaller than and having less resources when compared to the Confederacy. But it is important to note that the old Confederacy had been fighting the war for some time and were constantly replacing lost ships and droids whilst building entirely new forces for new war zones. In my opinion if the old Confederacy had stopped building and using the recuscant destroyer the. They would have saved a lot of money since it is said that the ships frequently collided with other vessels because the ships droid brain couldn't react in time.


This is the CIS, they wasted trillions on Battle Droids that made me laugh in humor. Thats anti-soldier effectiveness.
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Postby Prussia-Poland » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:54 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Prussia-Poland wrote:Yes, thank you.


The show is T-Canon, Television Canon.

We need OP Ruling what canon we're following.

The OP is allowing a giant indestructible, planet killing ship that will serve as the Jedi temple, and he already accepted it.
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Postby Creataris » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:56 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Creataris wrote:However Enclave is correct to a degree in regards to you being much smaller than and having less resources when compared to the Confederacy. But it is important to note that the old Confederacy had been fighting the war for some time and were constantly replacing lost ships and droids whilst building entirely new forces for new war zones. In my opinion if the old Confederacy had stopped building and using the recuscant destroyer the. They would have saved a lot of money since it is said that the ships frequently collided with other vessels because the ships droid brain couldn't react in time.


This is the CIS, they wasted trillions on Battle Droids that made me laugh in humor. Thats anti-soldier effectiveness.

They could have improved the droids as well by adding some better targeting algorithms and a proper AI like everyone else using combat droids did before and after them.
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Postby Prussia-Poland » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:57 pm

Creataris wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
This is the CIS, they wasted trillions on Battle Droids that made me laugh in humor. Thats anti-soldier effectiveness.

They could have improved the droids as well by adding some better targeting algorithms and a proper AI like everyone else using combat droids did before and after them.

That is what The New Confederacy did
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Postby Elerian » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:58 pm

Prussia-Poland wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
The show is T-Canon, Television Canon.

We need OP Ruling what canon we're following.

The OP is allowing a giant indestructible, planet killing ship that will serve as the Jedi temple, and he already accepted it.

:palm:

Why? Why would you guys do this?

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Postby Prussia-Poland » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:59 pm

Elerian wrote:
Prussia-Poland wrote:The OP is allowing a giant indestructible, planet killing ship that will serve as the Jedi temple, and he already accepted it.

:palm:

Why? Why would you guys do this?

I'm not sure whether it is actually planet killing, but you get the point.
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Postby Elerian » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:00 pm

Prussia-Poland wrote:
Elerian wrote: :palm:

Why? Why would you guys do this?

I'm not sure whether it is actually planet killing, but you get the point.

It doesn't matter, the OP allowed it for one reason or another. It just makes no sense.

This is getting out of hand . . .

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Postby Prussia-Poland » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:04 pm

Elerian wrote:
Prussia-Poland wrote:I'm not sure whether it is actually planet killing, but you get the point.

It doesn't matter, the OP allowed it for one reason or another. It just makes no sense.

This is getting out of hand . . .

As for my ship, I had asked him twice. The second time was just to be sure, and he said yes both times.
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Postby Elerian » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:06 pm

Prussia-Poland wrote:
Elerian wrote:It doesn't matter, the OP allowed it for one reason or another. It just makes no sense.

This is getting out of hand . . .

As for my ship, I had asked him twice. The second time was just to be sure, and he said yes both times.

Im certainly no expert but I don't think any backwater nations could feasibly do what some of you are doing.

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Postby Prussia-Poland » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:07 pm

Elerian wrote:
Prussia-Poland wrote:As for my ship, I had asked him twice. The second time was just to be sure, and he said yes both times.

Im certainly no expert but I don't think any backwater nations could feasibly do what some of you are doing.

The OP clearly stated that the NE, NR, and NC are the most powerful factions.
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