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Postby Avissia » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:14 pm

Rephesus wrote:I don't know how I feel about Romania's post, it seems a bit extreme and rather unrealistic. I'm going to ask for an OP ruling on this.
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My apologies. I'm rather new to this. I have edited it, so that it looks like the President is doing it for popularity, and that the PM is a greedy backstabbing arsehole.

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Postby Rephesus » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:15 pm

Ideals are not an issue here, realism and OOC clarity is priority. No one is going to deny you because you are a fascist who wants to see another Roman Empire (even if you aren't), the issue is that you have had a history of OOC conflicts and frankly we do not want conflict in this RP. Especially with a nation as involved as Italy.

As for the app, it was previously said that unless you ask the OP to reserve the nation, it is not reserved. An unfinished app, is an unfinished app, I'm sorry.

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Postby Avissia » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:16 pm

Avissia wrote:
Rephesus wrote:I don't know how I feel about Romania's post, it seems a bit extreme and rather unrealistic. I'm going to ask for an OP ruling on this.
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My apologies. I'm rather new to this. I have edited it, so that it looks like the President is doing it for popularity, and that the PM is a greedy backstabbing arsehole.

Furthermore, I have change my polling stats

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Postby The new united britsh empire » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:17 pm

Central Aodan wrote:Hi, Can I please reserve Scotland, as I am Scottish and would love would to RP as my own country? :)


Basically, I've got a compromise for us. I'm going to RP as a UKIP Government running the United Kingdom including Scotland, so I'd prefer if you RP'ed as Scotland as a devolved administration however I fine to RP a bitter political battle for Scottish Independence.

I'm not fully equipped (In terms of knowledge of the referendum) however I am of the belief that I could, even if the Yes campaign won, still just no give Scotland independence; could I do this?
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:18 pm

Rephesus wrote:Ideals are not an issue here, realism and OOC clarity is priority. No one is going to deny you because you are a fascist who wants to see another Roman Empire (even if you aren't), the issue is that you have had a history of OOC conflicts and frankly we do not want conflict in this RP. Especially with a nation as involved as Italy.

As for the app, it was previously said that unless you ask the OP to reserve the nation, it is not reserved. An unfinished app, is an unfinished app, I'm sorry.

When have i committed Conflict? I enjoyed having that discussion on the Realism of A Fascist/ monarchist party gaining support. Why dont you give me like a probation period to prove i can be non-conflictual, everyone wins
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Postby Rephesus » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:19 pm

Avissia wrote:
Rephesus wrote:I don't know how I feel about Romania's post, it seems a bit extreme and rather unrealistic. I'm going to ask for an OP ruling on this.
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My apologies. I'm rather new to this. I have edited it, so that it looks like the President is doing it for popularity, and that the PM is a greedy backstabbing arsehole.


It does seem to be a general improvement, however I do not think that 60% would be in favour of Crimea mostly because in nations like Romania there generally is political apathy and the fact that a lot of Romanians have an anti-Russian and pro-western policy. As for leaving the EU, it seems very extreme right now, especially considering that the EU is one of the main mantles that keep Romania stable in the east.

If you want to turn Romania into a pro-Russian state, it's fine but you need to do so realistically, which means long term government change (will take time) and likely more disputes with EU neighbours. This would take quite some time and you need to ensure you remain realistic to Romania.

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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:19 pm

Also an good idea would be a EU thread, just saying.
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Postby Imperium Nova » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:19 pm

Avissia wrote:
Avissia wrote:My apologies. I'm rather new to this. I have edited it, so that it looks like the President is doing it for popularity, and that the PM is a greedy backstabbing arsehole.

Furthermore, I have change my polling stats

Sounds nice. Although you should know that Taiwan does not want to be recognised as Taiwan, and will not accept any nation doing so. Either you recognise the People's Republic of China or the Republic of China (Taiwan). Then you recognise one of them as the sole legitimate ruler.

If you want other countries to recognise, I would suggest South Ossetia and Abchazia if not done so already, it would also increase relations with Russia.

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Postby Rephesus » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:22 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Rephesus wrote:Ideals are not an issue here, realism and OOC clarity is priority. No one is going to deny you because you are a fascist who wants to see another Roman Empire (even if you aren't), the issue is that you have had a history of OOC conflicts and frankly we do not want conflict in this RP. Especially with a nation as involved as Italy.

As for the app, it was previously said that unless you ask the OP to reserve the nation, it is not reserved. An unfinished app, is an unfinished app, I'm sorry.

When have i committed Conflict? I enjoyed having that discussion on the Realism of A Fascist/ monarchist party gaining support. Why dont you give me like a probation period to prove i can be non-conflictual, everyone wins


Like I said, the primary barrier is the fact that Italy is reserved. Your application can't even be considered right now.

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Postby Rephesus » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:22 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:Also an good idea would be a EU thread, just saying.


I'm in the process of making one actually.

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Postby Limborg » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:23 pm

The new united britsh empire wrote:
Central Aodan wrote:Hi, Can I please reserve Scotland, as I am Scottish and would love would to RP as my own country? :)


Basically, I've got a compromise for us. I'm going to RP as a UKIP Government running the United Kingdom including Scotland, so I'd prefer if you RP'ed as Scotland as a devolved administration however I fine to RP a bitter political battle for Scottish Independence.

I'm not fully equipped (In terms of knowledge of the referendum) however I am of the belief that I could, even if the Yes campaign won, still just no give Scotland independence; could I do this?


If the Scottish people vote yes and the UK gouverment would deny their independence, it would cause severe damage to your international reputation and relations... Since, at first, the UK stated it would.

(currently it looks like the referendum is going to be a no in Scotland)

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Postby Imperium Nova » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:25 pm

Limborg wrote:
The new united britsh empire wrote:
Basically, I've got a compromise for us. I'm going to RP as a UKIP Government running the United Kingdom including Scotland, so I'd prefer if you RP'ed as Scotland as a devolved administration however I fine to RP a bitter political battle for Scottish Independence.

I'm not fully equipped (In terms of knowledge of the referendum) however I am of the belief that I could, even if the Yes campaign won, still just no give Scotland independence; could I do this?


If the Scottish people vote yes and the UK gouverment would deny their independence, it would cause severe damage to your international reputation and relations... Since, at first, the UK stated it would.

(currently it looks like the referendum is going to be a no in Scotland)

About that, how will we make referendums in this? The US has been suggesting another referendum in Crimea. How would the results be decided?

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Postby Rephesus » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:25 pm

Limborg wrote:
The new united britsh empire wrote:
Basically, I've got a compromise for us. I'm going to RP as a UKIP Government running the United Kingdom including Scotland, so I'd prefer if you RP'ed as Scotland as a devolved administration however I fine to RP a bitter political battle for Scottish Independence.

I'm not fully equipped (In terms of knowledge of the referendum) however I am of the belief that I could, even if the Yes campaign won, still just no give Scotland independence; could I do this?


If the Scottish people vote yes and the UK gouverment would deny their independence, it would cause severe damage to your international reputation and relations... Since, at first, the UK stated it would.

(currently it looks like the referendum is going to be a no in Scotland)


This is correct, plus it would look extremely hypocritical considering the UK backs a Catalonian referendum

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Postby Graknopia » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:25 pm

Limborg wrote:
The new united britsh empire wrote:
Basically, I've got a compromise for us. I'm going to RP as a UKIP Government running the United Kingdom including Scotland, so I'd prefer if you RP'ed as Scotland as a devolved administration however I fine to RP a bitter political battle for Scottish Independence.

I'm not fully equipped (In terms of knowledge of the referendum) however I am of the belief that I could, even if the Yes campaign won, still just no give Scotland independence; could I do this?


If the Scottish people vote yes and the UK gouverment would deny their independence, it would cause severe damage to your international reputation and relations... Since, at first, the UK stated it would.

(currently it looks like the referendum is going to be a no in Scotland)

yeah. the best estimates I could find are 40 percent
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Postby Avissia » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:26 pm

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Avissia wrote:Furthermore, I have change my polling stats

Sounds nice. Although you should know that Taiwan does not want to be recognised as Taiwan, and will not accept any nation doing so. Either you recognise the People's Republic of China or the Republic of China (Taiwan). Then you recognise one of them as the sole legitimate ruler.

If you want other countries to recognise, I would suggest South Ossetia and Abchazia if not done so already, it would also increase relations with Russia.


Okay, so fuck Taiwan. Communism! Not What Is Happening To Romania! How Lovely!

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Postby Rephesus » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:26 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:About that, how will we make referendums in this? The US has been suggesting another referendum in Crimea. How would the results be decided?


We will likely have a panel state reasons for a realistic result, then chances are the OPs vote on it for the OOC result.

ICly you could just deny an referendum in Crimea as you currently de facto control it.

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Postby Limborg » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:28 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Limborg wrote:
If the Scottish people vote yes and the UK gouverment would deny their independence, it would cause severe damage to your international reputation and relations... Since, at first, the UK stated it would.

(currently it looks like the referendum is going to be a no in Scotland)

About that, how will we make referendums in this? The US has been suggesting another referendum in Crimea. How would the results be decided?


That is a good question, and i think we could find an agreement through the OOC for that.

On Crimea i would say that they would still vote in favor of joining Russia, however at a lower percentage.
For Scotland it would probably be a no, since that is what all experts assume.
As for Catalonia, i expect a yes, especially since they have a very large independence movement and alot of support.

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Postby Imperium Nova » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:29 pm

Rephesus wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:About that, how will we make referendums in this? The US has been suggesting another referendum in Crimea. How would the results be decided?


We will likely have a panel state reasons for a realistic result, then chances are the OPs vote on it for the OOC result.

ICly you could just deny an referendum in Crimea as you currently de facto control it.

Yeah, I know. And I probably won't allow it, but if I do, I would want to know the mechanics behind it.

Also seeing how the last referendum garnered over 90% yes to Russia votes.

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Postby The new united britsh empire » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:30 pm

Limborg wrote:
The new united britsh empire wrote:
Basically, I've got a compromise for us. I'm going to RP as a UKIP Government running the United Kingdom including Scotland, so I'd prefer if you RP'ed as Scotland as a devolved administration however I fine to RP a bitter political battle for Scottish Independence.

I'm not fully equipped (In terms of knowledge of the referendum) however I am of the belief that I could, even if the Yes campaign won, still just no give Scotland independence; could I do this?


If the Scottish people vote yes and the UK gouverment would deny their independence, it would cause severe damage to your international reputation and relations... Since, at first, the UK stated it would.

(currently it looks like the referendum is going to be a no in Scotland)


Yes, I'm following the situation closely however I haven't got any idea on the Legislation behind the referendum. I was asking because I think it would interesting to kamikaze The UK as UKIP seams to be aiming for and I wanted to know if I could legally do that.
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Postby Rephesus » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:30 pm

Scotland is likely a Swing vote, I think it would depend on IC actions mostly.

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Postby Graknopia » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:31 pm

Rephesus wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:About that, how will we make referendums in this? The US has been suggesting another referendum in Crimea. How would the results be decided?


We will likely have a panel state reasons for a realistic result, then chances are the OPs vote on it for the OOC result.

ICly you could just deny an referendum in Crimea as you currently de facto control it.

Honestly, what we could do is have a random number picker get pick numbers between 40-60 Above 50 is for Ukraine, below is for Russia

We could edit the chances accordingly, like 40-80 or 20-60
^Could be applied to all referendums

Get what im saying?
(And by the way, the Crimean referendum was probably only over 90 percent because of Russian influence. I doubt it was legit)
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Postby Limborg » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:32 pm

The new united britsh empire wrote:
Limborg wrote:
If the Scottish people vote yes and the UK gouverment would deny their independence, it would cause severe damage to your international reputation and relations... Since, at first, the UK stated it would.

(currently it looks like the referendum is going to be a no in Scotland)


Yes, I'm following the situation closely however I haven't got any idea on the Legislation behind the referendum. I was asking because I think it would interesting to kamikaze The UK as UKIP seams to be aiming for and I wanted to know if I could legally do that.


Well the UK supports the scottish referendum, they even gave more rights to Scotland so it could make the referendum possible. It would be extremenly wierd if the UK would not follow through with it.

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Postby Imperium Nova » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:32 pm

Rephesus wrote:Scotland is likely a Swing vote, I think it would depend on IC actions mostly.

Well, perhaps. But almost all polls so far has shown a support for the "No" side.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_i ... on_polling

Although, http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/t ... -1-3350563

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Postby Limborg » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:34 pm

Graknopia wrote:
Rephesus wrote:
We will likely have a panel state reasons for a realistic result, then chances are the OPs vote on it for the OOC result.

ICly you could just deny an referendum in Crimea as you currently de facto control it.

Honestly, what we could do is have a random number picker get pick numbers between 40-60 Above 50 is for Ukraine, below is for Russia

We could edit the chances accordingly, like 40-80 or 20-60
^Could be applied to all referendums

Get what im saying?
(And by the way, the Crimean referendum was probably only over 90 percent because of Russian influence. I doubt it was legit)


That would be usefull in the scottish referendum since its still a debate on wether they would vote yes or no... As for Catalonia and Crimea, i think its safe to say that they would vote yes (even without foreign influence)

Anyhow, gonna work on my post, so i won't be responding here for that time ;)
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Postby Imperium Nova » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:36 pm

Graknopia wrote:
Rephesus wrote:
We will likely have a panel state reasons for a realistic result, then chances are the OPs vote on it for the OOC result.

ICly you could just deny an referendum in Crimea as you currently de facto control it.

Honestly, what we could do is have a random number picker get pick numbers between 40-60 Above 50 is for Ukraine, below is for Russia

We could edit the chances accordingly, like 40-80 or 20-60
^Could be applied to all referendums

Get what im saying?
(And by the way, the Crimean referendum was probably only over 90 percent because of Russian influence. I doubt it was legit)

Well, perhaps. Although I doubt you should wholly trust the west's accusations as their interests are in condemning Russia's actions.

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