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[Roski]

NASA a private organization? Horrible idea. Then they worm for the money and are not as regulated.

This is the US we are talking about, a country that has privatised both the Federal Bank and prisons, they can go a lot further.

We need to reintroduce capital punishment.

Also, NASA has lots of other things they are credited for that the can capitalize on. The internet anyone?

[Imperium Nova]

This is the US we are talking about, a country that has privatised both the Federal Bank and prisons, they can go a lot further.

We need to reintroduce capital punishment.

Also, NASA has lots of other things they are credited for that the can capitalize on. The internet anyone?

The US still has capital punishment, no? I mean, they still execute people.

[Graknopia]

We need to reintroduce capital punishment.

Also, NASA has lots of other things they are credited for that the can capitalize on. The internet anyone?

The US still has capital punishment, no? I mean, they still execute people.

Some states. Not all

[Roski]

We need to reintroduce capital punishment.

Also, NASA has lots of other things they are credited for that the can capitalize on. The internet anyone?

The US still has capital punishment, no? I mean, they still execute people.

Oh please, an execution here or there does not count as capital punishment.
The reason America still has these mass shootings because the penalty does not make them afraid.
I think someone who INTENTIONALLY murders two or more people outside of a military conflict should get that taste back.

[Imperium Nova]

The US still has capital punishment, no? I mean, they still execute people.

Oh please, an execution here or there does not count as capital punishment.
The reason America still has these mass shootings because the penalty does not make them afraid.
I think someone who INTENTIONALLY murders two or more people outside of a military conflict should get that taste back.

Isn't capital punishment synonymous to the death penalty, i.e. just the act of executing people.

[Roski]

Oh please, an execution here or there does not count as capital punishment.
The reason America still has these mass shootings because the penalty does not make them afraid.
I think someone who INTENTIONALLY murders two or more people outside of a military conflict should get that taste back.

Isn't capital punishment synonymous to the death penalty, i.e. just the act of executing people.

By definition, yes, but its not really true capital punishment...

[Imperium Nova]

Isn't capital punishment synonymous to the death penalty, i.e. just the act of executing people.

By definition, yes, but its not really true capital punishment...

So, what is true capital punishment? Mass execution? Is there a quota to be met? 1% of all convicted or something?

[Roski]

By definition, yes, but its not really true capital punishment...

So, what is true capital punishment? Mass execution? Is there a quota to be met? 1% of all convicted or something?

No, I stated it already.

Intentional murder of 2 or more people = executed.
Not really sure how much further to go with that, because I will only feel that as a retaliation.

What China does is just pointless murder. Whenever they fuck up, the blame someone random and execute him. Its really fucking stupid.

[Rephesus]

Nation Name:The Parliamentary Republic of Portugal
Head of State:Anibal Cavaco Silva
Head of Government:Same as above

Government Form:Parliamentary republic
Ideology:Conservative (Political, not economic)
Foreign Policy:Be cordial and build relations with other nations
Civil Freedoms /10:7
Political Freedoms /10:9
Economic Freedoms /10:7

Military Size:240,000
Military Description:Well equipped, but small compared to other nations
Organizations:N/A

Description of Your Nation's Economy:
Description of Your Nation's Government:
Small History of your nation till June 2014:
Goals for the Nation:Maybe, peacefully create a union with Spain
Why'd you choose this nation? (just interested in seeing why people pick stuff)
RP Sample:

You haven't completed the app, no sample, the parts you did write seem rather reckless. Portugal is an important nation that needs a dedicated RPer. Also fix the formatting.

Denied until fixed with all parts completed.

[Winovia]

Nation Name:The Parliamentary Republic of Portugal
Head of State:Anibal Cavaco Silva
Head of Government:Same as above

Government Form:Parliamentary republic
Ideology:Conservative (Political, not economic)
Foreign Policy:Be cordial and build relations with other nations
Civil Freedoms /10:7
Political Freedoms /10:9
Economic Freedoms /10:7

Military Size:240,000
Military Description:Well equipped, but small compared to other nations
Organizations:N/A

Description of Your Nation's Economy:
Description of Your Nation's Government:
Small History of your nation till June 2014:
Goals for the Nation:Maybe, peacefully create a union with Spain
Why'd you choose this nation? (just interested in seeing why people pick stuff)
RP Sample:

You haven't completed the app, no sample, the parts you did write seem rather reckless. Portugal is an important nation that needs a dedicated RPer. Also fix the formatting.

Denied until fixed with all parts completed.

They already said they would finish it later, so......

[The Emerald Dragon]

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Nation Name:The Parliamentary Republic of Portugal
Head of State:Anibal Cavaco Silva
Head of Government:Same as above

Government Form:Parliamentary republic
Ideology:Conservative (Political, not economic)
Foreign Policy:Be cordial and build relations with other nations
Civil Freedoms /10:7
Political Freedoms /10:9
Economic Freedoms /10:7

Military Size:240,000
Military Description:Well equipped (Upgraded versions of the G3 rifle in use) However is small compared to neighbours. (240,000 in whole military, compared to 330,000 in the Moroccan armed forces)
Organizations:N/A

Description of Your Nation's Economy:The economy is primarily market orientated, with many small businesses within the limits of Lisbon and larger corporations having several chains throughout Portugal. Most people work in modern industries such as Biochemicals or Manufacturing, and the Portuguese country has some of the best living standards in Europe. Life is good, with relatively little poverty and even where it is found it is far from the scenes in rural Africa.

Description of Your Nation's Government:The Democratically elected government of Portugal is centre-right, favouring religion. With many Portuguese being strong Catholics, the policies of the government seem popular. Gay marriage is however a rising agenda, nationalism isn't exactly popular with memories of the coup and colonialism still fresh in the minds of the older generation.

Small History of your nation till June 2014:

Under the government's leadership, funding from the navy is being taken and ships sold off. This is placed into education and healthcare, aiming at increasing the overall health of the nation. Relatively strict immigration laws came in by February, which limited immigrants to 25,000 a year. The government also keeps a close eye on North Korea and the United States, even paranoid of them.

Goals for the Nation:Maybe, peacefully create a union with Spain

Why'd you choose this nation?

RP Sample:

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[Winovia]

No.
Honestly, you need to cut the Obamacare shit ASAP. Make healthcare go across the states, and you can make America's private industry work just fine.
There is a lot of weird spending going on, it might be easier to make NASA a private corporation. There are several ways you could, I'll let you figure that out. Also, in an effort to increase military power without increasing spending, stop making the private contractor rape you in the prices. You could at least double your power without really increasing spending. Also, you really need to make the retirement age higher. As the Booming Babies reach retirement, there is some issues that you are going to have. You also need to overhaul the Public School system, so you can once more do more with less.

I think my sarcasm in that post was too mild.

But still, these measures will probably be quite unpopular, well, maybe not ObamaCare. But I doubt Obama (the current President) will back down on it. But raising the pension age will be widely unpopular and the overhaul of the education system will be costly and be inefficient in the short term, as all changes are.

Popularity = HILLARY2016

So we wont be doing any of the aforementioned things

You haven't completed the app, no sample, the parts you did write seem rather reckless. Portugal is an important nation that needs a dedicated RPer. Also fix the formatting.

Denied until fixed with all parts completed.

I swear, that i wrote "I'll write the rest later" or something to that effect.

You did, its fine

[Graknopia]

So, what is true capital punishment? Mass execution? Is there a quota to be met? 1% of all convicted or something?

No, I stated it already.

Intentional murder of 2 or more people = executed.
Not really sure how much further to go with that, because I will only feel that as a retaliation.

What China does is just pointless murder. Whenever they fuck up, the blame someone random and execute him. Its really fucking stupid.

Then you have the issue of possible innocents being killed to be found innocent years later..
Or the burden on the system for appeals

[Rephesus]

You haven't completed the app, no sample, the parts you did write seem rather reckless. Portugal is an important nation that needs a dedicated RPer. Also fix the formatting.

Denied until fixed with all parts completed.

I swear, that i wrote "I'll write the rest later" or something to that effect.

Yep you did. I'm not saying it's bad or anything, I just figured I'd tell you about the parts that you did write before you finished, that way you can edit them.

By all means finish the app I look forward to the result.

[Roski]

No, I stated it already.

Intentional murder of 2 or more people = executed.
Not really sure how much further to go with that, because I will only feel that as a retaliation.

What China does is just pointless murder. Whenever they fuck up, the blame someone random and execute him. Its really fucking stupid.

Then you have the issue of possible innocents being killed to be found innocent years later..
Or the burden on the system for appeals

All people are innocent until proven guilty by the court of law.
We can investigate better now, we don't need to worry about that. It isn't the 60s

[Imperium Nova]

Then you have the issue of possible innocents being killed to be found innocent years later..
Or the burden on the system for appeals

All people are innocent until proven guilty by the court of law.
We can investigate better now, we don't need to worry about that. It isn't the 60s

Well, still, people who are proven guilty can be made innocent, and then there is no return for them.

[Graknopia]

All people are innocent until proven guilty by the court of law.
We can investigate better now, we don't need to worry about that. It isn't the 60s

Well, still, people who are proven guilty can be made innocent, and then there is no return for them.

^This.

I can find a few cases in recent history about this.. Besides, a life of prison with no chance or parole seems pretty shitty. Executions are just for revenge.

EDIT: Executions should probably be reserved for extreme cases, like where there is no dispute if they murdered multiple people. (In mass-shootings or something)

[Winovia]

The Eritrea player is now kicked from this RP for 72 hours, after which he must reapply to regain entry.

Before everyone gets their panties in a bunch, I am acting on Limborgs orders.

[Rephesus]

Eritrea was kicked for multiple reasons including unwillingness to cooperate, unrealistic RPing, meta gaming. Please don't make these mistakes and remember that the OOC is your friend, if you aren't sure about an action make sure you post to seek group/OP consensus.

[Kryskov]

The reason America still has these mass shootings because the penalty does not make them afraid.
I think someone who INTENTIONALLY murders two or more people outside of a military conflict should get that taste back.

Don't the mass shooting people usually off themselves anyways?
And of course, the federal government can't just intervene in states rights all willy nilly. Enforcing capital punishment would:
1. Be godmodding (most liberals, and even a lot of moderate conservatives, would never support such a thing without a lengthy battle, something Obama really doesn't need)
2. Essentially further rip the states rights cause in half.

[Rephesus]

The reason America still has these mass shootings because the penalty does not make them afraid.
I think someone who INTENTIONALLY murders two or more people outside of a military conflict should get that taste back.

Don't the mass shooting people usually off themselves anyways?
And of course, the federal government can't just intervene in states rights all willy nilly. Enforcing capital punishment would:
1. Be godmodding (most liberals, and even a lot of moderate conservatives, would never support such a thing without a lengthy battle, something Obama really doesn't need)
2. Essentially further rip the states rights cause in half.

I'm going to agree with Kryskov on this, I won't say that it is godmodding, but for it to be realistic you need to build up to it and have more right-wing states implement it first. Plus it will take a bit of convincing for the american population to accept it, major events do that.

For example, the Sandy Hook shooting caused a lot of people to back gun restrictions and such.

[The New Greek Republic]

Just to make sure, I want Winovia to know that even you have sent delegates to those countries, you have a slim chance of getting them under a central government. Except for South Sudan, which you would probably need military intervention. That you turned down in the U.N.t(-_- )

But the others are very unlikely to be successful in tying under one central government. In order from hardest from less hardest, here's why!

1.) Somalia.

Jesus. I'm sure this could be the Balkans of Africa. From 1991 to 2012, that's 21 years for you math nuts, there wasn't a functioning government operating within Somalia. During this time, several sections (4) split the country like shards of glass. These regions, called Puntland, Galmudug, Hizbul Islaami, and the most famous, Somaliland, act as their own government. They wage war, make treaties, pass legislation and all that good government stuff. Now, in 2012, when the Federal Republic of Somalia was formed the government reported that 85% of the disputed land was controlled by the government. With that said, Somaliland has been pretty much begging for independence since forever, Puntland, Galmudug, and Hizbul Islaami is pretty much overrun with either warlords or radical Islamists. So there is a very, very, very little chance of uniting this county under a central government.

2.) The Central African Republic.

This is a conflict fueled by political and personal (religious) disagreements. This is a difficult place to put under one government mainly because since the start of the conflict, there has already been a new government separate from the C.A.R formed in the country. This country is ran by Seleka leader, Michel Djotodia. He was recognized as leader of the country by most, but fighting continued as supporters of the former goverment have continued fighting, trying to restore the previous government. This year, several massacres committed by the Christian group called Anti-balaka against Muslim civilians, forcing thousands of Muslims to flee the country. Some have said that this is an act of genocide and ethnic cleansing. With all that said, it could be done but this is another nation that will need military intervention.

3.) Nigeria.

Nigeria has been experience civil unrest among it's populace for a decade and a half now, with little to no end in sight and it's all over religion. Right now, the government has been clashing with Muslim forces, who have clashed with Christian forces. Introduction of Sharia law in 9 Nigerian states resulted in religious riots, these riots have claimed thousands of deaths since 1999. The riots also caused a Muslim armed rebellion beginning in 2009. With massive religious discrimination, it will be a large challenge to unite this country under a strong central government. Unless, of course, you can unite religions and form Musimanity. (hopefully nobody is offended by this.)

[Rephesus]

Nigeria's southern region is actually quite stable, the only real issue is the militants.

Also, you forgot Mali!

Otherwise, you are right in that it will be difficult to centralize Africa, but it is possible.

[Kryskov]

Nation Name: The Republic of India
Head of State: Pranab Mukherjee
Head of Government Narendra Modi

Government Form: Federal parliamentary constitutional republic
Ideology: Democracy, Hindu/Indian Nationalism, federalism
Foreign Policy: Non-Aligned Movement, balances cordial ties with the West and Russia
Civil Freedoms /10: 7
Political Freedoms /10: 8
Economic Freedoms /10: 7

Military Size: 1,325,000 (active) 2,142,821 (reserve)
Military Description: Mostly Late-Post Cold War (1990s) tech with upgrades, though a lot of newer weaponry has been brought out to replace the old ones.
Organizations: None (If y'all have any suggestions for this, I'd be willing to hear them)

Description of Your Nation's Economy: India was nominally a protectionist, semi-socialist economy. However, economic crises have moved the Indian economy to push for a more liberal, free-trade oriented economy. GDP per capita is low, and income inequality is high.
Description of Your Nation's Government: The government is traditionally headed by the President of India. However, most of the powers granted to the President are, in fact, headed by the Prime Minister of India. The President holds comparatively little power compared to the Prime Minister. Many provinces are administered through their own governments, thus creating a federal system.
Small History of your nation till June 2014: India has continued claiming neutrality in regards to the Crimean crisis. It has repeatedly refused the US' sanctions. In May of 2014, Modi was elected Prime Minister as a reform candidate. Internationally, Modi has stirred up some controversy with his vehement anti-Muslim and anti-Pakistan stance. However, Modi's party still has no majority.
Goals for the Nation: Begin economic and government reform, continue building a military umbrella in the Indian Ocean, negotiate with China on land disputes, improve foreign relations overall, into spes.
Why'd you choose this nation? It's a major world power that can hold its own against many nations, making it sorta in its own power bloc.
RP Sample:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=19336334#p19336334 (Can provide more upon request)

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

So, Does the History to June 2014, Mean like History from Now to june?