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[Rephesus]

Europe is increasingly more secular and multicultural nations tend to thrive over homogenous ones, look at the US, Canada, UK, New Zealand, Kenya (consider it's neighbours), India (again), Australia, France (increasingly). As for Christian, you have majority Islamic nations like Bosnia already, and then you have Scandinavia which despite the flags is extremely secular. I don't see why it would be 'wise' at all.

[The new united britsh empire]

Well yes, one of the major misconceptions would probably be that if your nation isn't a majority white Christian and wealthy nation that likely has a Latin Greek or Baltic based language and wasn't at one point a colonial empire or part of one, you are not European, which is of course untrue but there's social stereotyping for you.

Very true, many Israelis are either immigrants from Europe or have close family who are immigrants from Europe eg parents, grandparents, uncles, cousins etc etc. Luckily, I have numerous friends who live in Israel who say that it's very similar to continental Europe culturally speaking.

[Rephesus]

In fact there are 2 europe's. The one wich is currently the standard. Wich goes south till Malta & Gibraltar, Eeast till (western) Russia & Cyprus, West till Portugal & Greenland and north till well Greenland again.

Anyhow, the other one, so called "greater europe" wich is often used by european organizations, counts a number of additional countries: Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Israel, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia.

Till now the EU has been limited to the "standard" europe but it isn't exactly limited to it. It expressed willingness to hold talks with Georgia for example; not that Georgia will ever become a part of the EU, but still. Europe can go into talks with Israel, but the complex situation of Israel will prevent it from joining the EU for some years ICly. In RL it would never be able to join under the current situation.

This ^

A place like Tunisia or morocco would qualify. Also if Israel was considered then Turkey and Palestine obviously would be as well.

[The new united britsh empire]

This is geographical Europe:-

[Imperium Nova]

Europe is increasingly more secular and multicultural nations tend to thrive over homogenous ones, look at the US, Canada, UK, New Zealand, Kenya (consider it's neighbours), India (again), Australia, France (increasingly). As for Christian, you have majority Islamic nations like Bosnia already, and then you have Scandinavia which despite the flags is extremely secular. I don't see why it would be 'wise' at all.

Yeah, India is indeed thriving, with it's remarkable progress in women's rights and general safety and centralised rule. Also, Bosnia is not a part of the European Union. And even though many EU nations are very multicultural and secular, they are still not non-christian or non-white as nations like Turkey or North Africa would be. Especially with Turkey's increasing islamification and authoritarianism. Also other ethnically diverse nations are quite a bummer, like South Africa or Congo. Multiculturalism may lead to increased tolerance, however to increase in safety and stability, perhaps not.

[Imperium Nova]

This is geographical Europe:-
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Also the boundaries of the Greater German Reich

[Limborg]

Europe is increasingly more secular and multicultural nations tend to thrive over homogenous ones, look at the US, Canada, UK, New Zealand, Kenya (consider it's neighbours), India (again), Australia, France (increasingly). As for Christian, you have majority Islamic nations like Bosnia already, and then you have Scandinavia which despite the flags is extremely secular. I don't see why it would be 'wise' at all.

Yeah, India is indeed thriving, with it's remarkable progress in women's rights and general safety and centralised rule. Also, Bosnia is not a part of the European Union. And even though many EU nations are very multicultural and secular, they are still not non-christian or non-white as nations like Turkey or North Africa would be. Especially with Turkey's increasing islamification and authoritarianism. Also other ethnically diverse nations are quite a bummer, like South Africa or Congo. Multiculturalism may lead to increased tolerance, however to increase in safety and stability, perhaps not.

It does however will become (after Montenegro) the next European Union member. The EU has very good hope for Bosnia to join the EU.

[Tribenicha]

There's also this bullshit thing of come stupid logic that Europe and Asia are the same thing and that it should be called Eurasia...

While the definition of a continent permits it, it makes no real sense for a continent to be that large with completely different cultures, climates, biomes, and many other variations... oh, wait that's like America...

It makes no sense either way...

[Limborg]

There's also this bullshit thing of come stupid logic that Europe and Asia are the same thing and that it should be called Eurasia...

While the definition of a continent permits it, it makes no real sense for a continent to be that large with completely different cultures, climates, biomes, and many other variations... oh, wait that's like America...

It makes no sense either way...

Well, that's why "continent" doesn't have a clear defenition... nobody knows exactly where one should draw the line.

[Tribenicha]

Well, that's why "continent" doesn't have a clear defenition... nobody knows exactly where one should draw the line.

It is VERY annoying...

Also, I need to fucking post... the Netherlands might as well blow up from boredom... speaking of which, have you done that attack yet, or are you just going to uh... yeah... because I want to post after the attack because much isn't going on for the Netherlands...

[Rephesus]

There's also this bullshit thing of come stupid logic that Europe and Asia are the same thing and that it should be called Eurasia...

While the definition of a continent permits it, it makes no real sense for a continent to be that large with completely different cultures, climates, biomes, and many other variations... oh, wait that's like America...

It makes no sense either way...

Well, that's why "continent" doesn't have a clear defenition... nobody knows exactly where one should draw the line.

Exactly why a line shouldn't be drawn.

There are landlocked nations on the North ATLANTIC Treaty Organization. I'm sure incorporating nations North of Malta wouldn't break the Continent.

[Imperium Nova]

There's also this bullshit thing of come stupid logic that Europe and Asia are the same thing and that it should be called Eurasia...

While the definition of a continent permits it, it makes no real sense for a continent to be that large with completely different cultures, climates, biomes, and many other variations... oh, wait that's like America...

It makes no sense either way...

Well, that's why "continent" doesn't have a clear defenition... nobody knows exactly where one should draw the line.

In Swedish we have two words for continent. One is continent, and one is "världsdel". Literally world-part or part of the world. This makes it a lot easier since a continent, or kontinent, is simply a landmass, like Britian is not part of the European continent. However in the world-part, Britain is a part of the European world part, but not the European continent.

[Imperium Nova]

Well, that's why "continent" doesn't have a clear defenition... nobody knows exactly where one should draw the line.

Exactly why a line shouldn't be drawn.

There are landlocked nations on the North ATLANTIC Treaty Organization. I'm sure incorporating nations North of Malta wouldn't break the Continent.

Well, Hungary was ruled by an admiral despite being a landlocked, navy-less nation. And Switzerland, despite being landlocked, has a navy.

[Tribenicha]

Well, that's why "continent" doesn't have a clear defenition... nobody knows exactly where one should draw the line.

In Swedish we have two words for continent. One is continent, and one is "världsdel". Literally world-part or part of the world. This makes it a lot easier since a continent, or kontinent, is simply a landmass, like Britian is not part of the European continent. However in the world-part, Britain is a part of the European world part, but not the European continent.[/quote]

Leave it to fucking Sweden to be the one country to be smart enough to have a backup definition when shit hits the fan...

#Swedish4life

[Limborg]

Well, that's why "continent" doesn't have a clear defenition... nobody knows exactly where one should draw the line.

It is VERY annoying...

Also, I need to fucking post... the Netherlands might as well blow up from boredom... speaking of which, have you done that attack yet, or are you just going to uh... yeah... because I want to post after the attack because much isn't going on for the Netherlands...

The attacks will happen on 9/11.

Wich reminds me, i still need to edit the casualties since the wierd US logic incists the police & army to stand on high alert around those days.. And since both of the US targets will probably be at the scene... i have to edit that a bit.

Well, that's why "continent" doesn't have a clear defenition... nobody knows exactly where one should draw the line.

Exactly why a line shouldn't be drawn.

There are landlocked nations on the North ATLANTIC Treaty Organization. I'm sure incorporating nations North of Malta wouldn't break the Continent.

I agree, however i personallly believe that it would be best to first solve some of the drastic EU issues like the rising anti-EU movements, the Crisis, growing Anti-Islam movements... Things like that. I doubt any nation besides Eastern Europe would want to join a Union with that kind of issues.

[Imperium Nova]

Well, that's why "continent" doesn't have a clear defenition... nobody knows exactly where one should draw the line.

In Swedish we have two words for continent. One is continent, and one is "världsdel". Literally world-part or part of the world. This makes it a lot easier since a continent, or kontinent, is simply a landmass, like Britian is not part of the European continent. However in the world-part, Britain is a part of the European world part, but not the European continent.

Leave it to fucking Sweden to be the one country to be smart enough to have a backup definition when shit hits the fan...

#Swedish4life[/quote]
Let's hear it for the Swedes

[Imperium Nova]

It is VERY annoying...

Also, I need to fucking post... the Netherlands might as well blow up from boredom... speaking of which, have you done that attack yet, or are you just going to uh... yeah... because I want to post after the attack because much isn't going on for the Netherlands...

The attacks will happen on 9/11.

Wich reminds me, i still need to edit the casualties since the wierd US logic incists the police & army to stand on high alert around those days.. And since both of the US targets will probably be at the scene... i have to edit that a bit.

Exactly why a line shouldn't be drawn.

There are landlocked nations on the North ATLANTIC Treaty Organization. I'm sure incorporating nations North of Malta wouldn't break the Continent.

I agree, however i personallly believe that it would be best to first solve some of the drastic EU issues like the rising anti-EU movements, the Crisis, growing Anti-Islam movements... Things like that. I doubt any nation besides Eastern Europe would want to join a Union with that kind of issues.

Also the question that the EU if it should continute towards a federation, if it should stay at it's current position, or regress back to a less centralised version of itself.

[Tribenicha]

#Swedish4life

Let's hear it for the Swedes

YAY!

[Limborg]

http://startupfiance.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ifyouaintdutch-2.jpg

keep in mind to spoiler pics to avoid spam and such.

[Tribenicha]

Oh... the irony hurts... You said to keep images as spoilers as you ended up posting an image without it being a spoiler...

[Limborg]

Oh... the irony hurts... You said to keep images as spoilers as you ended up posting an image without it being a spoiler...

No, i apperantly putted something wrong in the spoilername, that's why it came up.

[Tribenicha]

Oh... the irony hurts... You said to keep images as spoilers as you ended up posting an image without it being a spoiler...

No, i apperantly putted something wrong in the spoilername, that's why it came up.

Still... it looked hilarious...

[Limborg]

http://www.memecenter.com/fun/1002213/netherlands-rage

Lol, just found this, how screwed up is the Dutch language

[Tribenicha]

http://www.memecenter.com/fun/1002213/netherlands-rage

Lol, just found this, how screwed up is the Dutch language :P

I love how the comments actually go against the image... still the Dutch languauge is a clusterfuck when you hear it. I remember it from Empire: Total War, I give on order to an army and he talks for like... 15 seconds just to respond.

[Limborg]

http://www.memecenter.com/fun/1002213/netherlands-rage

Lol, just found this, how screwed up is the Dutch language

I love how the comments actually go against the image... still the Dutch languauge is a clusterfuck when you hear it. I remember it from Empire: Total War, I give on order to an army and he talks for like... 15 seconds just to respond.

Haha yeah, Dutch is pretty hard to learn correctly, especially when you haven't learned it at a young age.

Anyhow, I'm one of the great people who doesn't have to learn Dutch that good