Elfen High 2 (OOC 9, Closed, Hodor)

[Nightkill the Emperor]

[G-Tech Corporation]

The slide from idealistic freedom movement to corrupt single-party clusterfuck has been souring to observe, even within my lifetime. My family and friends in SA are willing to back parties like the DA merely because "they aren't ANC", rather than any particular merits. That tells you how little faith anyone but the proletariat masses ANC buys with political favors has in people like Zuma to lead SA in the future.

I don't think any one party should be in power too long. It causes problems.

Part of the reason I'm voting out the INC is because they need to shape up, or try to.

I mean, there's many, many other reasons, but that's a part.

There's a lot of similarities between the ANC and INC, in a way.

Hmm. I hadn't thought of it that way, but it is a fair comparison. Both rode to power on a wave of nationalist sentiment and the success of their respective causes, and have enjoyed limited opposition at best. Complacency breeds contempt, and both need revitalization to transition from mere revolutionary parties to viable political forces that represent progress for their respective countries.

Thankfully, Mandela didn't spawn a dynasty of political leaders, or the ANC would hold on to power far longer than it currently looks set to.

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[Nightkill the Emperor]

I don't think any one party should be in power too long. It causes problems.

Part of the reason I'm voting out the INC is because they need to shape up, or try to.

I mean, there's many, many other reasons, but that's a part.

There's a lot of similarities between the ANC and INC, in a way.

Hmm. I hadn't thought of it that way, but it is a fair comparison. Both rode to power on a wave of nationalist sentiment and the success of their respective causes, and have enjoyed limited opposition at best. Complacency breeds contempt, and both need revitalization to transition from mere revolutionary parties to viable political forces that represent progress for their respective countries.

Thankfully, Mandela didn't spawn a dynasty of political leaders, or the ANC would hold on to power far longer than it currently looks set to.

At least the Gandhis/Nehru were decent.

I won't say they're great. They had serious flaws, and I give hardly a shit about Rahul Gandhi who does not impress me. But they weren't god awful.

Really, in India, we haven't had utterly god-awful people at the top, which is fortunate.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Hmm. I hadn't thought of it that way, but it is a fair comparison. Both rode to power on a wave of nationalist sentiment and the success of their respective causes, and have enjoyed limited opposition at best. Complacency breeds contempt, and both need revitalization to transition from mere revolutionary parties to viable political forces that represent progress for their respective countries.

Thankfully, Mandela didn't spawn a dynasty of political leaders, or the ANC would hold on to power far longer than it currently looks set to.

At least the Gandhis/Nehru were decent.

I won't say they're great. They had serious flaws, and I give hardly a shit about Rahul Gandhi who does not impress me. But they weren't god awful.

Really, in India, we haven't had utterly god-awful people at the top, which is fortunate.

I'm not going to lie; they had a problem with corruption. But at least your leaders tend to realize that in order for corruption to be profitable, there have to be funds to skim. In SA the politicians couldn't give a farthing about sanity, economic growth, healthcare, science, crime, etc. as long as their base is taken care of with free beer and only a little bit of vote buying while they milk the few funds their state does have in to their personal coffers.

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Hmm. I hadn't thought of it that way, but it is a fair comparison. Both rode to power on a wave of nationalist sentiment and the success of their respective causes, and have enjoyed limited opposition at best. Complacency breeds contempt, and both need revitalization to transition from mere revolutionary parties to viable political forces that represent progress for their respective countries.

Thankfully, Mandela didn't spawn a dynasty of political leaders, or the ANC would hold on to power far longer than it currently looks set to.

At least the Gandhis/Nehru were decent.

I won't say they're great. They had serious flaws, and I give hardly a shit about Rahul Gandhi who does not impress me. But they weren't god awful.

Really, in India, we haven't had utterly god-awful people at the top, which is fortunate.

Wikipedia chose to summarize the Nehru-Gandhi family with this picture.

I'm very sorry for that, India.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

A PM I like is Gulzarilal Nanda, who had two terms.

Mind, these terms were thirteen days each and separated by two years. So he couldn't fuck up.

At least the Gandhis/Nehru were decent.

I won't say they're great. They had serious flaws, and I give hardly a shit about Rahul Gandhi who does not impress me. But they weren't god awful.

Really, in India, we haven't had utterly god-awful people at the top, which is fortunate.

I'm not going to lie; they had a problem with corruption. But at least your leaders tend to realize that in order for corruption to be profitable, there have to be funds to skim. In SA the politicians couldn't give a farthing about sanity, economic growth, healthcare, science, crime, etc. as long as their base is taken care of with free beer and only a little bit of vote buying while they milk the few funds their state does have in to their personal coffers.

Oh, they definitely had huge corruption problems, and a huge host of other things too. But you have no idea just how low my standards for politicians are.

[Zarkenis Ultima]

A PM I like is Gulzarilal Nanda, who had two terms.

Mind, these terms were thirteen days each and separated by two years. So he couldn't fuck up.

Here, we had a president who lasted 45 minutes. I lol'd when I found out.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

A PM I like is Gulzarilal Nanda, who had two terms.

Mind, these terms were thirteen days each and separated by two years. So he couldn't fuck up.

Here, we had a president who lasted 45 minutes. I lol'd when I found out.

[G-Tech Corporation]

A PM I like is Gulzarilal Nanda, who had two terms.

Mind, these terms were thirteen days each and separated by two years. So he couldn't fuck up.

Here, we had a president who lasted 45 minutes. I lol'd when I found out.

Really? Oh dear. You have even dearest Rome beat.

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A PM I like is Gulzarilal Nanda, who had two terms.

Mind, these terms were thirteen days each and separated by two years. So he couldn't fuck up.

Here, we had a president who lasted 45 minutes. I lol'd when I found out.

The United States of America brings you President Zachary Taylor, March 1849 to July 1850.

See, Taylor was at a Fourth of July (Independence Day) celebration; being July in America, things were quite nice, and they had a pleasant picnic. Taylor had some cherries; he decided he quite liked them.

So, when the festivities were over, he went home and had some cherries with a glass of milk. And some more. And some more. And some more. And more, and more, and more.

Within the month, Taylor had died of what can best be described as a fatal stomach ache.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

At least the Gandhis/Nehru were decent.

I won't say they're great. They had serious flaws, and I give hardly a shit about Rahul Gandhi who does not impress me. But they weren't god awful.

Really, in India, we haven't had utterly god-awful people at the top, which is fortunate.

Wikipedia chose to summarize the Nehru-Gandhi family with this picture.

I'm very sorry for that, India.

I'll say this in their favour - you did not fuck with Indira Gandhi. She was possibly the most militaristic of our leaders. She helped liberate Bangladesh, and she did Operation Blue Star. And she suspended democracy, got voted out and got voted back in.

Mind, she did get assassinated for her trouble, but even so.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Here, we had a president who lasted 45 minutes. I lol'd when I found out.

The United States of America brings you President Zachary Taylor, March 1849 to July 1850.

See, Taylor was at a Fourth of July (Independence Day) celebration; being July in America, things were quite nice, and they had a pleasant picnic. Taylor had some cherries; he decided he quite liked them.

So, when the festivities were over, he went home and had some cherries with a glass of milk. And some more. And some more. And some more. And more, and more, and more.

Within the month, Taylor had died of what can best be described as a fatal stomach ache.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/U ... haryTaylor

The idiot, dying like that.

He actually seems like he would have been very competent.

[Zarkenis Ultima]

Here, we had a president who lasted 45 minutes. I lol'd when I found out.

Really? Oh dear. You have even dearest Rome beat.

Really? Wow.

Pedro Lascuraín Paredes. Took power after Francisco I. Madero was forced out of power and subsequently killed. His only acts were assuming power and then naming Victoriano Huerta the new president.

[G-Tech Corporation]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/ZacharyTaylor

The idiot, dying like that.

He actually seems like he would have been very competent.

At the very least, he might have stomped the Civil War's embers out for a few years.

[Nationstatelandsville]

The United States of America brings you President Zachary Taylor, March 1849 to July 1850.

See, Taylor was at a Fourth of July (Independence Day) celebration; being July in America, things were quite nice, and they had a pleasant picnic. Taylor had some cherries; he decided he quite liked them.

So, when the festivities were over, he went home and had some cherries with a glass of milk. And some more. And some more. And some more. And more, and more, and more.

Within the month, Taylor had died of what can best be described as a fatal stomach ache.

The even better story is of William Henry Harrison, Taylor's predecessor by nine years.

Harrison was inaugurated on March 4, 1841; he was a forgetful type, it would seem, as he had misplaced his coat that particular day. The weather, of course, was atrocious - bitterly wet, bone-soaking wet. Harrison promptly said "fuck it" and delivered his inaugural address anyways; outside. What followed was what I understand to be one of the longest inaugural addresses in American history.

By March's end, Harrison was ill with a bad cold. (No small nuisance in the 1840's.) His doctors, being the finest medical minds of their times, promptly loaded him up with opium and castor oil, then stuck leeches all over him, 'cause fuck it, why not? As such, Harrison was went from "really sick" to "really dead" in the matter of a week.

He died, specifically, on April 4, 1841.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

The even better story is of William Henry Harrison, Taylor's predecessor by nine years.

Harrison was inaugurated on March 4, 1841; he was a forgetful type, it would seem, as he had misplaced his coat that particular day. The weather, of course, was atrocious - bitterly wet, bone-soaking wet. Harrison promptly said "fuck it" and delivered his inaugural address anyways; outside. What followed was what I understand to be one of the longest inaugural addresses in American history.

By March's end, Harrison was ill with a bad cold. (No small nuisance in the 1840's.) His doctors, being the finest medical minds of their times, promptly loaded him up with opium and castor oil, then stuck leeches all over him, 'cause fuck it, why not? As such, Harrison was went from "really sick" to "really dead" in the matter of a week.

He died, specifically, on April 4, 1841.

April 4?

Well, isn't that a fun coincidence.

[Nude East Ireland]

I know Kevin just typed up a thing on William Henry Harrison, but I'll do it and post before him anyways.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

[Nationstatelandsville]

The even better story is of William Henry Harrison, Taylor's predecessor by nine years.

Harrison was inaugurated on March 4, 1841; he was a forgetful type, it would seem, as he had misplaced his coat that particular day. The weather, of course, was atrocious - bitterly wet, bone-soaking wet. Harrison promptly said "fuck it" and delivered his inaugural address anyways; outside. What followed was what I understand to be one of the longest inaugural addresses in American history.

By March's end, Harrison was ill with a bad cold. (No small nuisance in the 1840's.) His doctors, being the finest medical minds of their times, promptly loaded him up with opium and castor oil, then stuck leeches all over him, 'cause fuck it, why not? As such, Harrison was went from "really sick" to "really dead" in the matter of a week.

He died, specifically, on April 4, 1841.

April 4?

Well, isn't that a fun coincidence.

He was the first President to die in office.

So we were pretty much looking around at each other in confusion, wondering what the fuck we did now. And that's how John Tyler, accomplished House Representative (for the Confederate States of America) became President; but that's a different story entirely.

[Nationstatelandsville]

I know Kevin just typed up a thing on William Henry Harrison, but I'll do it and post before him anyways.

And the student has become the master.

Of what, I don't know.

[Nude East Ireland]

Speaking of 19th century American politicians, John C. Calhoun looks like Doc Brown on meth.

Seriously, who would elect that guy?

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Speaking of 19th century American politicians, John C. Calhoun looks like Doc Brown on meth.

Seriously, who would elect that guy?

He was also incredibly intelligent and undoubtedly helped mold America into what it is today.

Whether it was good or bad is anyone's guess. His intellect and impact, however, can't be denied.

[Nationstatelandsville]

Speaking of 19th century American politicians, John C. Calhoun looks like Doc Brown on meth.

Seriously, who would elect that guy?

Calhoun was bad-ass enough to piss off Andrew Jackson and outlive him.

They were afraid of him.